Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

I thought Trump stopped taking covid as seriously because Kushner had the idea that since it was affecting mostly blue states (like NY, Washington, California) around April 2020 (and had not gotten to the red states as badly by that point), they should stop considering it a big deal because they didn't support him
 
In the "big if true" department, an article on Alternet argues that the Trump administration-and the American right in general-changed its stance on COVID from "big fucking deal" to "just the flu bro" when it came out that most of the casualties were minorities.

To be fair, everything is due to sexism, racism or homophobia in some way according to these people. Trump's actual thought process was much simpler: 'If the economy tanks, I'm probably not getting re-elected', and the guy wasn't going to hurt his chances of getting re-elected for anyone, regardless of skin color.

If you want to avoid lockdowns, factory closures or anything else that may impact the Dow Jones negatively, you have to argue that Covid is no big deal, so that's what he did. And of course you can't be seen wearing a mask if that's your stance. The QAnon-adjacent folks ran with that popsicle and that's how we got the Bill Gates/5G/Fauci anti-vaxx nonsense.
 
Deep thoughts being all they can be

The vaccine has become so politicized that I would not take it even if I was told it would give me super strength.

No, I will not bow to demands by fucking liberal politicians to control my health decisions. On principle, whatever the cost, I will reject it.

No, I won't trust any safety studies that come out after >50% of the population has already been vaccinated. At that point, you simply cannot publish any findings that chronic heart inflammation will take 10 years off your life or whatever the case may be. Glowies would shoot you. Any adverse effects have to be buried for public order. We will never hear the real side effects through official channels.

Refusing to vaxxine and ignoring medical studies to own the libs.
 
If they could've made the vaccine for the Spanish flu back then, they would have. I know you're a tard, but you do know that biotech science is quite a bit more advanced than it was 100 years ago, right?

You spazes who think that this is some huge conspiracy by big pharma that nearly every doctor and medical scientist in the world is in on are seriously really bad at logic and math. Like, I am surprised they let you graduate high school with how bad your math and logic skills are. In fact, you should probably be able to sue them for letting you graduate... Big pharma and healthcare orgs makes a hell of a lot more money from an ICU stay from an unvaccinated dumbass than it does from a vaccine. An ICU stay can be over a million dollars, and usually is 6 figures at a minimum.

It could just be, maybe, that the government realizes that anti-vax spazes going around and spreading covid to the population is just not a very good thing for society. No, it's gotta be some vast conspiracy that nearly every doc and scientist in the world is in on
All I see is you seething at pointing out basic facts. Are you implying that big pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t misconstrue data or facts or create propaganda that might harm people (or even simply, not help people) if it will make a profit or establish their mainstream reputation? Are you seriously implying that authoritarians don’t jump at the first opportunity to track you or maintain control over your movement? Ever hear of Snowden? CIA? NSA? If you don’t think this you’re hilariously naive and probably a teenager. Judging by your pathetic insults I would assume as such.

There has never been a mandatory vaccine to this scale for endemic viruses with extremely low death rate, fact. There is no way a vaccine with long term viability will ever be produced, fact. Hence, COVID will be endemic and constant just as with influenza, fact. Thus, MANDATING constant vaccination and boosters to do almost anything in society when you will need to get it constantly every few months - when it doesn’t even prevent infection OR death and the survival rate is 99.9% either way - is completely insane. I’m sorry you’re mentally ill, but I really insist you go outside and experience the real world for a little. No one is dropping dead and everyone is chugging along just as always. Get out of the autist shed.
 
Found this on Danbooru of all places.
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Thus, MANDATING constant vaccination and boosters to do almost anything in society when you will need to get it constantly every few months - when it doesn’t even prevent infection OR death and the survival rate is 99.9% either way - is completely insane.

Which one do you think has a higher survival rate? The vaccine or the virus?
 
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The Deep State is installing Schrader valves in kids now.

Jesus, you dumb fags don't realize a liberal trying to discredit people with legitimate concerns when you see it do you? This type of shit is bog standard disinfo shit they always pull.

"Oh you're worried about heart problems in little kids?, lol you just fell for that dumb nigga putting a valve out to troll you"
 
You guys have it all wrong. Covid is fully made up. China and the deep state released a stronger flu (not covid) to trick people into thinking covid is real. Part of the reason is that in various warehouses in China they were massively overstocked with shit like masks, gloves, Lysol, tissues, etc. So this allowed China to free up warehouse space in time for Christmas last year. Then some rouge agents from various letter agencies tried to blame it on bats as an indirect way of pointing out it was a carefully orchestrated plan by the Adrenochrome addicted elite (bats are the animals that vampires turn into, vampires suck blood, vampires usually attack virgin women, Epstein went for children). The elite‘s hand in it is obvious with Amazon and Walmart making record profits during covid while killing small business.
 
Jesus, you dumb fags don't realize a liberal trying to discredit people with legitimate concerns when you see it do you? This type of shit is bog standard disinfo shit they always pull.

"Oh you're worried about heart problems in little kids?, lol you just fell for that dumb nigga putting a valve out to troll you"
I mean we had someone arguing the vaccine contains small squids in this thread so that post being real isn't particularly out there. Real believers and satire are indistinguishable at this point.
 
You guys have it all wrong. Covid is fully made up. China and the deep state released a stronger flu (not covid) to trick people into thinking covid is real. Part of the reason is that in various warehouses in China they were massively overstocked with shit like masks, gloves, Lysol, tissues, etc. So this allowed China to free up warehouse space in time for Christmas last year. Then some rouge agents from various letter agencies tried to blame it on bats as an indirect way of pointing out it was a carefully orchestrated plan by the Adrenochrome addicted elite (bats are the animals that vampires turn into, vampires suck blood, vampires usually attack virgin women, Epstein went for children). The elite‘s hand in it is obvious with Amazon and Walmart making record profits during covid while killing small business.
8/10 forgot to mention Wayfair
 
All I see is you seething at pointing out basic facts. Are you implying that big pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t misconstrue data or facts or create propaganda that might harm people (or even simply, not help people) if it will make a profit or establish their mainstream reputation? Are you seriously implying that authoritarians don’t jump at the first opportunity to track you or maintain control over your movement? Ever hear of Snowden? CIA? NSA? If you don’t think this you’re hilariously naive and probably a teenager. Judging by your pathetic insults I would assume as such.

There has never been a mandatory vaccine to this scale for endemic viruses with extremely low death rate, fact. There is no way a vaccine with long term viability will ever be produced, fact. Hence, COVID will be endemic and constant just as with influenza, fact. Thus, MANDATING constant vaccination and boosters to do almost anything in society when you will need to get it constantly every few months - when it doesn’t even prevent infection OR death and the survival rate is 99.9% either way - is completely insane. I’m sorry you’re mentally ill, but I really insist you go outside and experience the real world for a little. No one is dropping dead and everyone is chugging along just as always. Get out of the autist shed.
99.9% survivability? Are you seriously retarded? Over half a percent of the US died to covid last year alone, which means the death rate can't be lower than 0.5%. I know you are an anti-vax spaz, and thus have a well-deserved reputation of being inept at math and stats, but you just make it too easy to point out how much of a tard you are
 
No one is dropping dead and everyone is chugging along just as always.
It's reasonable to have a debate about the best way to care for COVID patients, or what should/shouldn't be done for prevention, how to recover from the economic impact or the patchwork decisionmaking of various clashing agencies.

When someone's argument is that it just doesn't exist, it's hard to go from that.

Every individual person's death or illness is statistically insignificant. The problem is that even people who say that loudly change their opinion when it affects them, or someone close to them. Every terminal cancer diagnosis is a drop in the bucket for the country's yearly death rate, but I've never heard anyone say that that brought them comfort.

Personally, I think we (as a society) are going to take a while to figure out how we're coping with this addition to our worldview: there's a new respiratory illness that'll never go away and sometimes people in their 30s just up and get crippled from it, lol. That used to happen; now it's happening again. If we take your tack, maybe the ~national dialogue~ needs to be about hubris and about how personal responsibility includes an advance directive and a discussion with the spouse about financial health.
 
99.9% survivability? Are you seriously exceptional? Over half a percent of the US died to covid last year alone, which means the death rate can't be lower than 0.5%. I know you are an anti-vax spaz, and thus have a well-deserved reputation of being inept at math and stats, but you just make it too easy to point out how much of a tard you are
Not quite. The death rate is 2,305/1M, so 0.23% of the population that has already died. Of course 99.9% still can't be right unless someone thinks the deaths are vastly overstated.
 
I mean we had someone arguing the vaccine contains small squids in this thread so that post being real isn't particularly out there. Real believers and satire are indistinguishable at this point.

Bullshit, that's plenty obvious it's satire at that point. You're a fucking moron if you think those people are anywhere near legit believers of the shit they are spewing. The best way to discredit legitimate issues that are being proven is to lump them in with crazies. Send crazies out, and take pictures of them citing them as the problem.

Same shit that was tried over the weekend in the VA election with the tiki-torch carrying white supremacist dems that brought a black guy along showing up and claiming they were for Youngkin.

This type of tactic is shockingly common and the big pharma people definitely have PR firms out there putting this type of shit out there to discredit the real problems that have been presented via scientific studies that get buried by the media.

But keep laughing and being smug reddit fucks about it, maybe eventually you'll learn to look a little deeper than what the MSM tells you. I doubt it though.
 
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