US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gehenna]

@Gehenna Can you share a 30,000 ft view of the current Adminstration's political landscape?

Aerial photo of D.C. right now.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

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Aerial photo of D.C. right now.

Vera Lynn - We'll Meet Again

From the album: We'll Meet Again

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[Flaming Carrot]

Also, Blue Dog Ed Case claims there are more moderates that oppose the current plan for BBB but haven't publically expressed it yet. There's that Fifth Column...
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Seems legit. I think the Democrats were allowing Machin and Sinema to take all the heat because Manchin's not going anywhere and Sinema is popular enough in her state that she can afford to be yelled at. It probably makes Arizonans like her more.

The Blue Dogs must be getting scared if they're willing to speak up now considering the amount of abuse Manchin and Sinema have taken so far. What is amazing to me is that all this infighting has taken place so publicly. Why didn't the Democrats do something popular like decriminalize marijuana or doing some boring road and bridge repair bills if they're so desperate to get something passed. Or some kind of police reform, since they spent 2020 insisting how vital that was. Why work so hard trying to pass these massive spending bills, the contents of which change daily?

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Matching expected financial games to historical standards and rather complicated math and then matching that to expected payments.

The problem for the Biden admin is that it 100% won't match here, this is a can-kicking offer.

Can you provide a frame of reference for the people that aren’t old enough like me or don’t have super granular knowledge how shit like this has gone down before? How… accelerated is this compared to other failure Presidents like Carter? How badly were things collapsing before he even got to midterms? It seems like we can’t go 3 weeks without some kind of shitshow or international incident.

 

[Oxous]

What is amazing to me is that all this infighting has taken place so publicly. Why didn't the Democrats do something popular like decriminalize marijuana or doing some boring road and bridge repair bills if they're so desperate to get something passed. Or some kind of police reform, since they spent 2020 insisting how vital that was. Why work so hard trying to pass these massive spending bills, the contents of which change daily?

Given the current state of inter-Democrat politics, I imagine any attempt at implementing popular legislation that couldn't be done with a Executive Order would meet the same fate as BBB - i.e. dying in Congress, unpassed.

 

[Gehenna]

Can you provide a frame of reference for the people that aren’t old enough like me or don’t have super granular knowledge how shit like this has gone down before? How… accelerated is this compared to other failure Presidents like Carter? How badly were things collapsing before he even got to midterms? It seems like we can’t go 3 weeks without some kind of shitshow or international incident.

Unfortunately, you have a limit on my knowledge there. I don't really handle economics in my job, so I know the rough process and what colleagues who have it more in their field have said, but not much from my view.

Addendum: And then I realized I misread your post.

Addendum: Right, you are asking the politics not the economics, hello derp me. To answer -that-, Carter actually held on to Congress in the midterms and didn't see a sinking of his Administration until the second half of his term. Biden is basically unprecedented for sheer levels of trainwreck, nobody compares to him on any front at this point.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

The most hilarious part is that Pelosi is running around offices trying to get people to agree to vote yes as the vote is happening. A true miscalculation on her part, but Pelosi seems to be slipping up a lot lately.

maybe she is betting on exhaustion
a couple Rs might vote Yeah just to get over it

 

[Gehenna]

maybe she is betting on exhaustion
a couple Rs might vote Yeah just to get over it

Nothing stops them from just... leaving. So long as they make sure their vote is catalogued, they can just leg it.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

maybe she is betting on exhaustion
a couple Rs might vote Yeah just to get over it

Why? What's in it for them?

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Why work so hard trying to pass these massive spending bills, the contents of which change daily?

Because there’s a SHITTON of money in these bills going to folks the Establishment owes favors to.

 

[Gehenna]

Because there’s a SHITTON of money in these bills going to folks the Establishment owes favors to.

If anything, you understate it. The only other major way besides winning an election to obtain Political Capital is through the passing of major legislation. What the Infrastructure bill represents is the largest pork barrel in global history. 3.5 trillion dollars of -debts- being paid. No, not gains, not shoring up, -paying off the cost of 2020-.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

If anything, you understate it. The only other major way besides winning an election to obtain Political Capital is through the passing of major legislation. What the Infrastructure bill represents is the largest pork barrel in global history. 3.5 trillion dollars of -debts- being paid. No, not gains, not shoring up, -paying off the cost of 2020-.

Then here’s hoping they can’t pay when the collector comes knocking. I’m not going to forget that flood of blue ballots at 4 AM. Hell, I remember booze I was drinking and the glass it was in. If they have to get their fucking legs broken in a backroom instead of a courtroom, so be it.

 

[MrJokerRager]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1456308684531896321

"I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again: Spanish-language misinformation campaigns are absolutely exploding on social media platforms like Facebook, WhatsApp, etc. It’s putting US English misinfo campaigns to shame. & they aren’t getting disclaimers the way English posts do."

https://twitter.com/jshgdmn/status/1456279011848593410

"We also have to make sure that outreach includes multilingual pushback on misinformation. WeChat was full of Chinese-language memes with racist lies about Eric Adams, and this poster was all over Chinatown. Do most Dem staffers even know what WeChat is, let alone how to use it?"

https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1456385930617626628

^numerical data of asian and hispanic shifts

Dems are panicking over the pro-GOP shifts among Asians and Hispanics, blaming insufficient censorship in foreign languages

Well this is interesting, now they going to fuck with them as well.

 

[Bolo]

Addendum: Right, you are asking the politics not the economics, hello derp me. To answer -that-, Carter actually held on to Congress in the midterms and didn't see a sinking of his Administration until the second half of his term. Biden is basically unprecedented for sheer levels of trainwreck, nobody compares to him on any front at this point.

Is it that Bad?

Because, as much fun as I am having seeing the dems spinning out of control, part of me alway thought this "disaster" was somewhat perceived in a heightened lens due the non spot news cycles we leave in this day and age.

But I'm also surprised with how much of a fuck up this is, because I was under the impression that the public machine itself didn't need a name and a party to go on by itself, burocracy just goes, and even Trump by all his tweets and boasting, as far as internal policies goes, it seemed business as usual wasn't it?

How could the democrats fuck with that in the first place?

 

[Gehenna]

Is it that Bad?

Because, as much fun as I am having seeing the dems spinning out of control, part of me alway thought this "disaster" was somewhat perceived in a heightened lens due the non spot news cycles we leave in this day and age.

But I'm also surprised with how much of a fuck up this is, because I was under the impression that the public machine itself didn't need a name and a party to go on by itself, burocracy just goes, and even Trump by all his tweets and boasting, as far as internal policies goes, it seemed business as usual wasn't it?

How could the democrats fuck with that in the first place?

They spent -everything- to oust Trump, they got high on their own supply.

Every favor, every political cent. Towards a single goal that required total upheaval and disregard for the political system. They then attempted to rule by committee with a committee that had mutually exclusive goals and who hated each other. All it took was one good blow, and it all began crashing down.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Seems legit. I think the Democrats were allowing Machin and Sinema to take all the heat because Manchin's not going anywhere and Sinema is popular enough in her state that she can afford to be yelled at. It probably makes Arizonans like her more.

The Blue Dogs must be getting scared if they're willing to speak up now considering the amount of abuse Manchin and Sinema have taken so far. What is amazing to me is that all this infighting has taken place so publicly. Why didn't the Democrats do something popular like decriminalize marijuana or doing some boring road and bridge repair bills if they're so desperate to get something passed. Or some kind of police reform, since they spent 2020 insisting how vital that was. Why work so hard trying to pass these massive spending bills, the contents of which change daily?

Short answer is that McConnell has repeatedly shown a wilingness to kill any straight infrastructure bill for the evilulz, especially since infrastructure bills are typically pork filled buffets filled with bribes and kickbacks to begin with. And legalizing pot is a pandora's box NO ONE in the DNC wants to deal with.

Long answer; the Democrats used up ALL of their political capital and then some stealing the election from Trump and are now needing the Build Back Better plan to both buy off people for 2022 and 2024 (which will require stealing the elections to avoid a bloodbath) and to pay off debts acrewed that were put on the credit card in 2020 in terms of Biden/DNC promising shit they didn't have to people to help them with the steal.

Adding to this, Biden DESPERATELY needs a win so that he can say he did something to keep Congress in Democrat hands and to stay off a rising red tide that will potentially sweep the Democrats back into the wilderness for another 8-12 years.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

13,653?
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Are they fucking with us at this point or what.

Fines usually don‘t go into cents. That number is for one violation. You cap at 10 violations ($136,532), so they most likely came up with the maximum, then divided it by 10 to make it a ”measured” response. Still a weird number, but it probably checks out with someone somewhere.

 

[jje100010001]

Going back to whether Virginia is worth celebrating vs the Repubs not being out of the woods:

https://twitter.com/RedEaglePatriot/status/1456759804190470151

 

[deeplyhigh]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1456308684531896321

"I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again: Spanish-language misinformation campaigns are absolutely exploding on social media platforms like Facebook, WhatsApp, etc. It’s putting US English misinfo campaigns to shame. & they aren’t getting disclaimers the way English posts do."

https://twitter.com/jshgdmn/status/1456279011848593410

"We also have to make sure that outreach includes multilingual pushback on misinformation. WeChat was full of Chinese-language memes with racist lies about Eric Adams, and this poster was all over Chinatown. Do most Dem staffers even know what WeChat is, let alone how to use it?"

https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1456385930617626628

^numerical data of asian and hispanic shifts

Dems are panicking over the pro-GOP shifts among Asians and Hispanics, blaming insufficient censorship in foreign languages

It never fails to amuse me that they choose to double down on their failures rather than taking a step back and thinking “hmm maybe it’s our policies they don’t like” But noooooo, let’s censor apps that cater to the Asians and Hispanics because that will work this time!

 

[MirrorNoir]

Is it that Bad?

Because, as much fun as I am having seeing the dems spinning out of control, part of me alway thought this "disaster" was somewhat perceived in a heightened lens due the non spot news cycles we leave in this day and age.

But I'm also surprised with how much of a fuck up this is, because I was under the impression that the public machine itself didn't need a name and a party to go on by itself, burocracy just goes, and even Trump by all his tweets and boasting, as far as internal policies goes, it seemed business as usual wasn't it?

How could the democrats fuck with that in the first place?

I'll also toss in that 2020 really was a fucking poison chalice type deal.

COVID was a happy accident that let the DNC wreck the economy without orchestrating a 1929 style global crash of the entire global economy. The down side is that the Democrats didn't fucking have the brains to bother to think long term; all they wanted was Trump out of office and vagueries that they could either use COVID to establish their fascist police state over the ruins of the nation or magically declare COVID over the second they took office and pray the damage they did could be reversed or (through their media cronies) silence all attempts to point out how shitty and soul destroying life under Biden's economy is.

In hindsight, letting Trump have a full two terms would have been the saner and smarter solution long term; eight years are enough time to let Trump take the fall for COVID crashing the economy with no survivors and allow the Democrats to waltz through the door in 2024 ala Obama with "hope and change" and enough time to find ways, as they did with Obama, to paper over how the crash destroyed so many lives. But Trump managed to fight off the crash best he could and ultimately, has the luck that the real bad shit didn't kick in until AFTER he was out of office complete with Biden and his crew making shit worse due to them being enamored with the fascist powers COVID gave them (power they threatened Trump over possessing even though Trump never used it). And given that they stole the election from Trump, the Democrats now fucking OWN the economic collapse and that's going to create havoc down the line in a scale and scope that wasn't seen since Hoover killed the GOP on the national level for two decades.