Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Dogfacefuke]

Lol he's innocent as fuck, but I still think he's gonna get shoahed and you'll even see subhumans here celebrating it.

Aye mang.

You start to see people shift their world view like it's 1984 on Floyd a few months after the verdict. Suddenly those 90% blocked Arteries, drugs, and "can't sneed!!"s don't matter anymore.

Once public opinion sets; it's nearly impossible to change human weather. All you can do is proof your home and gate keep the faggots out.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

You start to see people shift their world view like it's 1984 on Floyd a few months after the verdict. Suddenly those 90% blocked Arteries, drugs, and "can't sneed!!"s don't matter anymore.

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

This is a rabbit hole that could never end, and this isn't the thread for that, so I'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Spoiler:

I respectfully think you are a giant cock sucking faggot

 

[mr.moon1488]

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

The thing of it is though in that case, you could make the argument that he contributed to Fentanyl Floyd's death, and had he gotten pinned on one of the lesser charges, most people would have said something along the lines of "yeah okay that's kind of fairish." People are dooming here because the same people who successfully pushed for Chauvin to get convicted on charges that were not only outlandish but were also impossible due to mutual exclusivity are now pushing for outlandish charges here. Yes, an insane conviction here would be a step beyond the insane conviction in the Chauvin trial, but as we have seen, the slippery slope is not a fallacy.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

The thing of it is though in that case, you could make the argument that he contributed to Fentanyl Floyd's death, and had he gotten pinned on one of the lesser charges, most people would have said something along the lines of "yeah okay that's kind of fairish." People are dooming here because the same people who successfully pushed for Chauvin to get convicted on charges that were not only outlandish but were also impossible due to mutual exclusivity are now pushing for outlandish charges here. Yes, an insane conviction here would be a step beyond the insane conviction in the Chauvin trial, but as we have seen, the slippery slope is not a fallacy.

Its very simple.

Don't look like a smug jackass piece of shit. That is what doomed Chauvin, He just looks like an asshole. Probably because he -is- a powertripping pig asshole and I cannot imagine feeling bad for him.

And they weren't mutually exclusive in the chauvin case, they were lesser included, which again shows that people don't know what they are fucking talking about.

 

[Getwhatyou]

Kyle is done for. As he should be.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Let's not kid ourselves: he's fucked.

We thought Chauvin was going to walk; how well did that pan out?

Someone remind me.

There's several big differences between this and the chauvin trial. For starters, Chauvin had baggage, he was widely regarded as an asshole, and was generally unsympathetic as fuck. No matter what the facts of the case, that video looked bad. Oh, and the literal fucking mob outside the courthouse that gave the jurors a very reasonable impression that the city very well could burn if they didn't charge him.

In this case there is no angry mob, and Rittenhouse himself is more sympathetic. He doesn't have baggage outside of the incident. In fact, any of his prior history actually looks pretty fucking good. Also compared to the guys he shot, Floyd is far more sympathetic a victim. Hell, even with Floyd's criminal record, he still looks way fucking better than the pedo manlet, and skateboard psycho. Fuck even Floyd's fat girlfriend was capable of drumming up more sympathy and emotion than pedobums fat heroin junky ho.

Also the judge in this case seems to be quite a bit more hostile to the prosecution, and hasn't let them make certain outrage claims on the actions of the deceased.

Honestly, I give Kyle pretty good odds of beating it, just because while there is political motivation to get him imprisoned, it's nowhere near the same level as it was for Chauvins trial.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Kyle is done for. As he should be.

Okay.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

The way the prosecution is going, I just don't see that happening. They don't have shit and I think the jury is going to see that. I don't have much faith in the justice system but their case is just so poor that I can't see this ending as anything other than a full acquittal (at least on the murder charges) maybe found guilty on the misdemeanor gun charges.

The problem is that it's often difficult to know with a jury. The case I've heard of that springs to mind as an example is Russ Faria who got convicted of murdering his wife. It didn't help that prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence, had officers commit perjury, and talked the judge into refusing to let the defense point out that one of the prosecution witnesses was a far more obvious alternate suspect. Even so their case was weak. Russ' alibi was that he was at his regular gaming night with friends and stopped at a couple stores on the way home, which was backed up by receipts and cellphone records. The prosecution's theory of the crime to explain this away was to claim that Russ killed his wife as some bizarre ultimate role play, while accusing his friends of helping him manufacture his alibi without a shred of evidence to support the claims. Days after he was found guilty, some members of the jury apparently told the press "that they thought Russ’ alibi was a little too pat, his friends’ stories too similar."

So at his first trial, the jury heard absolutely absurd theories from the prosecutor, heard 'we meet weekly to hang out, play some games, maybe watch a movie, and that night went the same as any other week' from five people; and decided that the five people were lying because their stories were too consistent, and Russ being away at a regularly scheduled meeting and finding his wife murdered when he returned home was 'too pat'.

Russ got his second trial in part because someone at the prosecutor's office mailed the withheld evidence to his defense attorney. He got a different judge who did allow the evidence of an alternate suspect the police had refused to investigate, opted for a bench trial, and got acquitted.

So yeah, juries can come back with some insane results, regardless of how crazy the prosecutors claims or how reasonable the defense.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

Kyle is done for. As he should be.

Have you even been watching the trial?

 

[Dogfacefuke]

Probably because he -is- a powertripping pig asshole

Mind reading, one of the various cognitive distortions.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Have you even been watching the trial?

Just ignore him, he's a discount Dynastia with none of the style or wit.

 

[The Repeated Meme]

Kyle is done for. As he should be.

Yeah, no.

 

[theshitposter]

We thought Chauvin was going to walk; how well did that pan out?

YOU thought, mate

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

yeah the real debate was manslaughter vs murder. no one was walking that day

 

[LeChampion1992]

Let's not kid ourselves: he's fucked.

We thought Chauvin was going to walk; how well did that pan out?

Someone remind me.

But with chauvin we knew he was fucked from day one with the evidence. Anyone who saw the livestreams and Twitter of the riots like you guys would be able to see that this isn't the same situation. Plus with chauvin he was a cop and the dude had kneeled on st Floyd's neck.

 

[Puff]

yep

it would have to get appealed and then he'd have to lose again

which isn't going to happen

but even if it did it would still only matter in Wisconsin

and it would only matter in the specific situation of "you are a minor running around a riot being chased by some dude with a skateboard and you kill him." it would absolute not impact the right to self defense in general.

This isn't about legal precedent. It's not even about the practical implications that a jury will fuck an innocent man for the mobs and media. It's about the perception.
He loses and people will be unwilling to defend themselves.

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

What pissed me off about that case was that they got him on mutually exclusive shit. Moving from what should have been manslaughter to murder over hype isn't really that big a deal.

 

[KonradCruise]

I remember telling people in those threads that the 90% blocked arteries and drugs literally didn't matter. Because they don't, legally, because if Chauvin's knee contributed even a little bit, it was at the very least manslaughter, and because he's just a jackass who looks like a smug jackass, he got 2nd degree.

I seriously still cannot believe people bought that crap about the carbon monoxide from a tailpipe like it mattered.

The most important thing in the Chauvin case is that testimony established he did something that was against policy, and somebody died in his custody, with him on top of them. And his smug fucking face.

With respect, the knee-back strategy is department procedure, Chauvin learned it from somewhere after all. Even if the department denied it as such, they are teaching their officers to pin people like that as its an effective, well known strategy. Chauvin was thrown under the bus by his own department on this. We saw many officers from many different departments in the days after using the same technique, in one case I saw however in the presence of larger floyd protest, a more crowd-aware officer would pull his fellow officers knee further back to placate the crowd.

 

[WTFisgoingon]

There's several big differences between this and the chauvin trial. For starters, Chauvin had baggage, he was widely regarded as an asshole, and was generally unsympathetic as fuck. No matter what the facts of the case, that video looked bad. Oh, and the literal fucking mob outside the courthouse that gave the jurors a very reasonable impression that the city very well could burn if they didn't charge him.

In this case there is no angry mob, and Rittenhouse himself is more sympathetic. He doesn't have baggage outside of the incident. In fact, any of his prior history actually looks pretty fucking good. Also compared to the guys he shot, Floyd is far more sympathetic a victim. Hell, even with Floyd's criminal record, he still looks way fucking better than the pedo manlet, and skateboard psycho. Fuck even Floyd's fat girlfriend was capable of drumming up more sympathy and emotion than pedobums fat heroin junky ho.

Also the judge in this case seems to be quite a bit more hostile to the prosecution, and hasn't let them make certain outrage claims on the actions of the deceased.

Honestly, I give Kyle pretty good odds of beating it, just because while there is political motivation to get him imprisoned, it's nowhere near the same level as it was for Chauvins trial.

On top of that there's no racial angle here so black people don't care, ergo no riots will happen. So there is infinitely less threatening outrage over it

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

On top of that there's no racial angle here so black people don't care, ergo no riots will happen. So there is infinitely less threatening outrage over it

And on top of that after the shooting the riots in Kenosha effectively stopped dead after that night. There were still smaller protests and what-not but nothing anywhere near the scale in size or violence of what was seen before Kyle's incident.

 

[Puff]

With respect, the knee-back strategy is department procedure, Chauvin learned it from somewhere after all. Even if the department denied it as such, they are teaching their officers to pin people like that as its an effective, well known strategy. Chauvin was thrown under the bus by his own department on this. We saw many officers from many different departments in the days after using the same technique, in one case I saw however in the presence of larger floyd protest, a more crowd-aware officer would pull his fellow officers knee further back to placate the crowd.

Somewhat, but he didn't get up when the guy stopped breathing. It's something. Not murder, but something. That plus hype got the charges.