8 People Dead and others hospitalized at Travis Scotts Astroworld festival

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Oh Lord, go to 29 minutes. People are trying to clear the way for an ambulance and the performer is aware of this - he even says that there's an ambulance. He's then clearly confused on what to do next, and hesitates. He can then see the ambulance as it has its lights flashing and he tells everyone to clear the middle and stop what they're doing and put their hands up. OK - that makes sense. I figured he got everyone to put their hands up in order to get them to stop what they are doing. I was wrong.

The video then becomes mind-shatteringly stupid. He says, "I'm going to make the motherfucking ground shake," and then strobe lights, flares, and other bright lights start going off and some ultra loud music starts up. I'm sure the ambulance personnel, who were trying to deal with casualties in the middle of a ridiculously dense crowd, really appreciated that.

I can't imagine trying to deal with dead or dying people, in a dense crowd, in darkness except for the strobe lights going off and near deafening, abrasive music assaulting the ears. God damn. Being a paramedic is stressful under normal circumstances. The people in the crowd also just started bobbing along with the music. Seriously, what the hell? Why wasn't the performance stopped? Apparently, staff told him to keep going. Were they afraid people would riot or what?
 
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The guys of the Daily Stormer suspect then the vax might have played a role of the deaths at the Astroworld.

Texas: In the Middle of a Rap Concert, 11 People Have Heart Attacks – 8 Dead So Far - Daily Stormer

https://twitter.com/ChaudharyParvez/status/1456986475929608201 Wait, what? AP: Fans attending a Hous
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...You have to wonder about the cardiac arrest, no?

Don’t you have to wonder about that?

I want to know if the concert required vaccination. They’re not supposed to be doing that in Texas, but they might be doing it anyway.

Or the people might have been voluntarily vaccinated.

Mass heart attacks in the middle of a concert is not even remotely normal. I’ve never heard of anything like this in my life.

Concerts get rough sometimes. It’s pretty normal. When I saw the headline, I assumed people got stampeded. But no. The crowd got rowdy and people started trying to escape it, then they started having heart attacks.

This is black people acting black, of course. But black people have been acting black for a long time.

Someone on Twitter is saying people were selling “laced pills.”

over 100 bodies had to be taken to the paramedics. 14 are confirmed dead so far including a 10 year old boy. people were also selling laced pills and others were having epilepsy seizures. the most scariest show i’ve ever attended. #ASTROWORLDFest #AstroWorld https://t.co/G3h5uwVTX4
— alison (@diorprads) November 6, 2021
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That might be what they blame this on.

But I’m just gonna go ahead and say: I think it’s the vax.

It makes total sense.

The reason so many athletes are having heart attacks – some of them dying – is that they are constantly straining their hearts.

Being involved in a stampede is going to put a similar kind of strain on the heart.

Many of these alternative doctors are saying that the majority of people who have taken the vax are experiencing heart damage.
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still harmless unless you really think you're gonna summon a demon
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Occult talk: it's not demons and fireballs and other fantasy magic. If you believe this stuff is about influencing your will onto reality. The artistic/magician directing the will through his art and music as the masses give their energy in a hypnotic frenzy to the ritual being conducted. Sacrifice to increase the power of the ritual being preformed.

This would be a pretty powerful place if one believed in such things.
 
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Yeah, this has nothing to do with vaccinations. This sort of thing has happened well before covid existed. Lots of them happen at Mecca or places near Mecca during the Hajj, where over two million people cram themselves into one place. Sometimes, > 2000 people die during Hajj "crush events." Having a whole load of people stomp on your chest can indeed stop your heart, although I suspect asphyxiation was the main cause of death here, as a lot of the dead were at the bottom of "dogpiles" of people. That will suffocate anyone, covid vaccine or no. I don't think there's been enough time for autopsies to have been performed. If any drugs contributed to someone's death, they were likely the usual suspects, like opioids or other street drugs.

It's basically a bad idea to cram people into super-dense crowds, especially with no organization or traffic control. A lot of the people being on drugs really won't help anything either. If something goes wrong, and a group of people panic and run, or even if a bunch of people all move in the same direction, there's a cascade effect (more people get caught up), and if there's a point where some people cannot move forward or they fall, you get one of these horrific crush events. People caught up in them often cannot stop running/moving even if they want to and can inadvertently stomp on and crush someone.
 
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i have so much to say about this.

mostly this: the people sperging out online about how he should've 'stopped the show' know nothing about the events industry. They had to continue the show because the influx of angry people who spent a shitton of money and the people leaving would've caused MORE INJURY. It PROBABLY would've started a riot. the second the lights went up and CaCtuS JaCk said "somebody's dead" everyone's mind would've gone straight to "there is a shooting happening" and panic would've ensued worse. By continuing the show they allowed medics to get the affected people out of the crowd and THEN disperse the crowd. (Or.. it WOULD'VE allowed the medics to get the affected people out if there were enough medics and there weren't clout chasing faggots dancing on the ambulance...)

Other than that:

Regardless of the people who 'snuck in'/rushed security, the event was unsafe. Even just the ticketed number would've been unsafe. Having ONE PERSON- THE MAIN EVENT on stage at a full-scale music festival with no seating, no elevation/no grandstanding is dangerous. Doing that at a RAP SHOW is even more dangerous. Say what you will about the average Rap Concert Attendee, but either way rap concerts are known to be rowdy and loose on security. Even though Travis Scott's fanbase happens to be Fortnite Pro Gamers and Big Mac Enthusiasts, he still tries to encourage a culture of absolutely raging at his concerts. So having 50,000 people all standing in what basically amounts to a single file line on FLAT GROUND to see him was only EVER going to end in injuries. Nobody could see ANYTHING- of course they were going to push and get a better view, and the second the first person pushed forward it was OVER.

Travis Scott should've been a separately ticketed event, or should've been held somewhere indoors where seating and elevation could be properly taken care of. There should've been more medics and more security. Narcissism, poor planning, and tight pockets cost several people their lives and that is truly fucking pathetic.
 
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spinch said:
i have so much to say about this.

mostly this: the people sperging out online about how he should've 'stopped the show' know nothing about the events industry. They had to continue the show because the influx of angry people who spent a shitton of money and the people leaving would've caused MORE INJURY. It PROBABLY would've started a riot. the second the lights went up and CaCtuS JaCk said "somebody's dead" everyone's mind would've gone straight to "there is a shooting happening" and panic would've ensued worse. By continuing the show they allowed medics to get the affected people out of the crowd and THEN disperse the crowd. (Or.. it WOULD'VE allowed the medics to get the affected people out if there were enough medics and there weren't clout chasing faggots dancing on the ambulance...)
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Ah. It seemed weird that they just kept going and I was wondering if they were afraid of causing a riot or mass panic. I guess that's the reason.

It still must have sucked for those ambulance personnel.

The whole set up looked like a perfect recipe for a crush event - it's the same sort of set up at Hajj where crush events are common place. Everyone is crammed onto flat ground with no lanes, organized seating, designated travel paths, or any sort of control.
 
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Random_Numbers140097 said:
Ah. It seemed weird that they just kept going and I was wondering if they were afraid of causing a riot or mass panic. I guess that's the reason.

It still must have sucked for those ambulance personnel.

The whole set up looked like a perfect recipe for a crush event - it's the same sort of set up at Hajj where crush events are common place. Everyone is crammed onto flat ground with no lanes, organized seating, designated travel paths, or any sort of control.
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there's a reason that reputable artists perform in stadiums and amphitheaters. Seating and elevation not only give everyone a good view, but prevents an event like this. Even just sections with walkways in between would've prevented this.
 
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JosephStalin said:
Nothing that couldn't be fixed by taking them all out for a helicopter ride out over the Pacific Ocean. 👍 Alternatively, send them all to my namesake's GULAG. He'd make sure his NKVD guys get some work out of them, heh, heh. Would be the first time any of them did anything useful in life.
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Nah, the ocean would reject them and spit them back out at you. Gulag's the best option.
 
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Random_Numbers140097 said:
Yeah, this has nothing to do with vaccinations. This sort of thing has happened well before covid existed. Lots of them happen at Mecca or places near Mecca during the Hajj, where over two million people cram themselves into one place. Sometimes, > 2000 people die during Hajj "crush events." Having a whole load of people stomp on your chest can indeed stop your heart, although I suspect asphyxiation was the main cause of death here, as a lot of the dead were at the bottom of "dogpiles" of people. That will suffocate anyone, covid vaccine or no. I don't think there's been enough time for autopsies to have been performed. If any drugs contributed to someone's death, they were likely the usual suspects, like opioids or other street drugs.

It's basically a bad idea to cram people into super-dense crowds, especially with no organization or traffic control. A lot of the people being on drugs really won't help anything either. If something goes wrong, and a group of people panic and run, or even if a bunch of people all move in the same direction, there's a cascade effect (more people get caught up), and if there's a point where some people cannot move forward or they fall, you get one of these horrific crush events. People caught up in them often cannot stop running/moving even if they want to and can inadvertently stomp on and crush someone.
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I saw at least two white gunts in this picture.
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I see one blue face

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