Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[Dizzyuntildeath]

@Mr. Faget Well written post. She'll take one look at it, realize it fits her to a T, and then say 'PSYCHOLOGY ISN'T IN THE TORAH. YHWH SAVES ME FROM THIS BITTER CURSE"

 

[RodgerDodger]

@Mr. Faget Well written post. She'll take one look at it, realize it fits her to a T, and then say 'PSYCHOLOGY ISN'T IN THE TORAH. YHWH SAVES ME FROM THIS BITTER CURSE"

She'll just call Mr Faget a gaslighting narcissist.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

She'll just call Mr Faget a gaslighting narcissist.

You forgot #TAG-EXHIBIT

 

[SunburnNation]

You forgot #TAG-EXHIBIT

Is she trying to say that this is gonna be an "exhibit" in the lolsuit, or is she just throwing out random words now?

 

[Karl der Grosse]

She claims to have a massive collection of screenshots and emails that she'll introduce as evidence at trial. I almost wish that her lawsuit would actually get that far, it would read like a greatest hits of the thread.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Is she trying to say that this is gonna be an "exhibit" in the lolsuit, or is she just throwing out random words now?

Both

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Both

Trying to get your narcissistic supply

 

[talk talk talk]

The thought of Smelly actually trying a case in federal court amuses me to no end.

 

[Mr. Faget]

The thought of Smelly actually trying a case in federal court amuses me to no end.

Semi-related question: let's say on the long shot that VA actually decides to brand Smelly as a vexatious litigant. I get she can just file in other states, but is there any chance at all that those states would look at her previous VA cases (and rulings...and potentially vexlit branding) and tell her to fuck off anyway?

 

[RodgerDodger]

Semi-related question: let's say on the long shot that VA actually decides to brand Smelly as a vexatious litigant. I get she can just file in other states, but is there any chance at all that those states would look at her previous VA cases (and rulings...and potentially vexlit branding) and tell her to fuck off anyway?

Null could submit her history and the filing Federal injunction, if it is issued, to any state court she files in. And they would give it due consideration. But the point remains he HAS to respond.

 

[talk talk talk]

Semi-related question: let's say on the long shot that VA actually decides to brand Smelly as a vexatious litigant. I get she can just file in other states, but is there any chance at all that those states would look at her previous VA cases (and rulings...and potentially vexlit branding) and tell her to fuck off anyway?

The problem for Dear Leader is that the other courts wouldn't go out of their way to look her up. Somebody would have to officially tell them about her Virginia shenanigans and that somebody would charge money to do that.

Plus there is the hassle of finding a lawyer licensed in that jurisdiction. Law licenses are valid only in specific courts although you can be licensed in multiple jurisdictions. There are workarounds for this, but they, again, cost money.

 

[AnOminous]

Semi-related question: let's say on the long shot that VA actually decides to brand Smelly as a vexatious litigant. I get she can just file in other states, but is there any chance at all that those states would look at her previous VA cases (and rulings...and potentially vexlit branding) and tell her to fuck off anyway?

This is a federal case, though, so it would be the feds doing it, not Virginia. The good thing about a federal pre-filing injunction is it can apply to the entire federal judiciary, but it wouldn't apply to the state.

Virginia's courts, like federal courts, do recognize the pre-filing injunction as a remedy for repeated filings violating the state's equivalent to the federal Rule 11, though. In fact, they directly borrowed case law from the Fourth Circuit in so doing.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

A good example would probably be the mormons.

Of the more mainstream cults I "investigated" Jehovah's Witness. What you described applies here too: appearance of polite and caring discussants and highly hierarchical organization that slowly cuts people from their previous lives. What surprised me is how business-like they are on their meetings and how they share tips on recruitment.
Sexual misconduct allegations are present too, like probably in any isolated community.

with a smaller albeit nonzero chance of Borderline Personality Disorder.

I'd say without more proof there is more pointing to "no" than to "yes". We have, to say it gently, non-standard sexual conduct and rather disorganized love life pointing to "yes". But on the other we have no proof of substance abuse, no proof of self-harm and suicide attempts and not much chaotic behavior (she's rather consistent in her crusade against us) and mood swings.

 

[Mr. Faget]

I'd say without more proof there is more pointing to "no" than to "yes". We have, to say it gently, non-standard sexual conduct and rather disorganized love life pointing to "yes". But on the other we have no proof of substance abuse, no proof of self-harm and suicide attempts and not much chaotic behavior (she's rather consistent in her crusade against us) and mood swings.

Heck, we don't even really have that. All we have is the word of a perpetual liar, claiming a life of sexual excess and deviance.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Heck, we don't even really have that. All we have is the word of a perpetual liar, claiming a life of sexual excess and deviance.

I have no reason to doubt those claims - she's consistent, goes into details and there are kids so sex had to happen. There are "only" 6 kids so backdoor being in use seems plausible.

 

[LoverofPi]

I sort-of agree with @Illuminati Order Official on this one, with a caveat: she needs everyone else to believe it.

Dodging powerlevel a bit here but, it's come up a number of times that Mel is likely suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with a smaller albeit nonzero chance of Borderline Personality Disorder. It's essentially impossible to say for absolute certain at a distance, but if we assume what she says and does at face value, there are a lot of red flags for either of these things, though more the former than latter.

There is plenty of demonstrated framework for NPD in particular. It seems (more from kiwis digging than anything Mel has stated herself) that her relationship with at least one of her parents was likely similar to how she treats her own kids. NPD can in some cases be "hereditary" insofar as the pattern of behavior is learned, internalized as normal, and perpetuated.

Smelly demands full control of the narrative at any given moment. She will gaslight, cajole, threaten, and browbeat endlessly until the listening party relents to that narrative, or removes themselves from her sphere of influence entirely. We can generally assume from Marshall's demonstrated behavior that anyone cowing to the narrative is now "favored", treated with at least the appearance of affection and respect. I say "appearance" because Mel has demonstrated more than once how easily she will discard him for a perceived slight, which isn't something normal people in healthy relationships do. In fact, I'd wager every time she "left" him was a situation where she iced him out for a slight, and pre-supposed the new narrative to be sans-Marshall, in case she decided to ditch him wholesale. However, it was very likely a tactic to rein him back into place, and emotional or psychological abuse is definitely a staple tool of narcissists. Men are (at least imo) more susceptible to it because they are, at least in American culture, praise-starved by design. Women have attention heaped on them from the time they can talk, obsessive praise or scorn offered about every aspect of their lives, personality, appearance, and so on; whereas men tend to be measured solely by their ability to provide a service or skill of apparent value. It's rare they are genuinely praised for anything, so any scrap of it will bait in a man who hasn't established a firm core identity for themselves, creating a feedback loop of dependence. Most men don't suffer from this, but quite a few do, and the ones that do are prime targets for narcissists, since their ego's health relies entirely on the approval of their abuser. If we suppose Smelly is NPD, it would go a long way to explaining her trail of exes, men who weren't dependent on that abuse cycle for validation, and rightly told her to fuck off, before she landed on someone so fragile and desperate for validation that they would take anything, even her cruelty, over nothing.

I want to add to this- I agree with everything re: Mel and NPD but I also want to add that Mel is only ever concerned about "this very moment." She always has to be in control and winning and will do, say, or believe whatever she has to to win- or at least feel like this is winning- at that given moment, even if it completely contradicts what she said just a few minutes ago. That doesn't matter because "Melinda is the winner" is the only ethos she truly has.

 

[obliviousbeard]

I want to add to this- I agree with everything re: Mel and NPD but I also want to add that Mel is only ever concerned about "this very moment." She always has to be in control and winning and will do, say, or believe whatever she has to to win- or at least feel like this is winning- at that given moment, even if it completely contradicts what she said just a few minutes ago. That doesn't matter because "Melinda is the winner" is the only ethos she truly has.

Indeed seems to be a case with her. She backpedals, moves goalposts, projects like a motherfucker and conveniently forgets things, within same sentence. And if that doesn't work, if the annoyance doesn't go away, she banishes it from Queen Mel's realm - it simply doesn't exist anymore. Or if it really gets to her, you'll see the usual five rotating responses or tirade about whatever group seems the easiest to blame within context. Everything's fluid with her, her worldview, philosophy, self-image, recollections of the past events, grammar and definition of words, etc. All seem to serve the purpose of propping her up in some way or another, neatly within her black or white worldview of things.

 

[RodgerDodger]

She also

I have no reason to doubt those claims - she's consistent, goes into details and there are kids so sex had to happen. There are "only" 6 kids so backdoor being in use seems plausible.

claims to squat them out on the floor with no medical help or care. Which raises the question of 6 live births/survivors vs…?

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

claims to squat them out on the floor with no medical help or care. Which raises the question of 6 live births/survivors vs…?

I think if she suffered a miscarriage she would mention it to present herself as a victim (of circumstance but not without merit for once).

 

[Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet)]

I'd say without more proof there is more pointing to "no" than to "yes". We have, to say it gently, non-standard sexual conduct and rather disorganized love life pointing to "yes". But on the other we have no proof of substance abuse, no proof of self-harm and suicide attempts and not much chaotic behavior (she's rather consistent in her crusade against us) and mood swings.

Melinda's dad completed suicide according to her. Definitely something personality-wise going on. It's too bad, because the kids are at huge risk of their own psychiatric issues and one suspects they aren't getting good guidance.