Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Sabaton needs to make a song about The Kenosha Kid.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

anyone else in the "the state always knew he was not guilty but was terrified of their city burning down so they're intentionally sabotaging the prosecution to try and quell the mob" camp at this point

Unlikely. Understandably tempting to believe, but unlikely.

I think fear of what would happen if they didn't charge him may have driven them going ahead with charging him despite there being such a strong self defense case. After all, they momentum of riots in general was still going, and they probably didn't want to make themselves fresh targets.

However I think their actual performance in court has been genuine. Either because they're true believers, or because they think winning their prosecution would be good for their career. They're just royally sucking at it because the facts are not even close to being on their side, leaving them with little to work with. They also might be unused to going up against defendants with a solid legal team. I assume they're usually going after low level criminals with little defense, and anyone who can put up a genuine fight usually gets an acceptable plea bargain negotiated rather than going all the way to trial.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the cops aren't too fond of the rioters and are being studiously neutral and honest with their testimony, which would tend to favor Kyle, but I wouldn't count on that either.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Hmmm? Just heard on Rekeita's stream that one of the Juror's is an actual Paramedic? There's your Hung Jury right there. After seeing Biceps claim to be a fake Paramedic etc, yeah an actual Medic will not take kindly to what that asshole said. Gauge is a "Buff". A wannabe. Someone who elevates his credentials and experience. Actual Medics take great offense at that bullshit. Paramedic Jurror will be thinking "Fuck These Assholes".

 

[George Lucas]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

 

[TheClappening]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

In what context?

For reality, Pedobaum/Skate'n'die/Lefty's conduct. Their actions so clearly provoke self defense I half expect a Terminator to be sent back in time to kill them before they can threaten Kyle.

For wokeoid spheres? Probably Shroeder. The judge had generally ruled in favor of the defense both in pretrial motions and during objections. Since they can't accept that the facts are simple overwhelmingly in Kyle's favor, they'll lash out at the old white judge who apparently keeps throwing the defense bones.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

Gun bad.
Wypepo bad.
Crossing state lines bad.

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

"The ingrained huwite supremacy in the jew-dicial system let this literal neon-nazi walk free! You can tell the judge was corrupt too- he quoted the EVIL BIBLE and not GOOD AND HONEST SCIENCE!"

Throw some blaming guns in there somewhere, and sperging out how crossing state lines somehow invalidates your right to self defense.

 

[Dan Abrams]

Hmmm? Just heard on Rekeita's stream that one of the Juror's is an actual Paramedic? There's your Hung Jury right there. After seeing Biceps claim to be a fake Paramedic etc, yeah an actual Medic will not take kindly to what that asshole said. Gauge is a "Buff". A wannabe. Someone who elevates his credentials and experience. Actual Medics take great offense at that bullshit. Paramedic Jurror will be thinking "Fuck These Assholes".

This x1000. The paramedic profession is crammed with tons of wannabe badass faggots, I believe they're called "wackers". They put emergency lights and LICENSED PARAMEDIC stickers on their personal cars and carry radios and vests around off-duty because they think they're hot shit - then you find out that they're actually just EMT-Basics or not even EMTs at all.

When I was in paramedic school a long time ago there was this kid who showed up to class every day wearing a NYFD "tactical" EMS vest. He had the lights on his Toyota Corolla. He would constantly interrupt the professor to give his take on the material and claimed to work cardiac arrests all the time "back in New Yahk". Everyone (including the professors who eventually just straight up told him to shut the fuck up) thought he was a fucking faggot and he eventually flunked out.

That juror 100% hates bicep boy and the prosecution for presenting him as a medic.

 

[Activelo]

Did one arm bandit testify. What did he say.

Where's @Knight of the Rope effort summaries when you need it? I'm too lazy to go that in-depth

For anybody else just checking in, here's some links to each day along with summaries after some quick skimming:

First day (Jury selection)
Second day (Defense says the hard R)
Third day (Prosecution begins to fuck up here, judge gets pissed at him, Regg incognito video with superchats used as evidence)
Fourth day (Juror gets thrown out due to Jacob Blake joke, prosecution is dealt a major blow when witness said that he heard the 'victim' say "if I catch any of you guys alone tonight, I'm gonna' fucking kill you," and the judge gets pissed again at the prosecution afterwards)
Fifth day (Another juror struck due to pregnancy and the prosecution shits the bed even more: opening the door for Rosenbaum's girlfriend to testify that he was depressed and bipolar. They then subpoenaed two Indian brothers who have something shady going on.)
Before the sixth day (Cortez Rice claims that he knows people inside the courtroom taking pictures of the jury and threatening to dox them if they don't convict Kyle)
Sixth day (Gaige Grosskreutz takes the stand and gets spanked by the judge for saying murder during direct. On cross, he kept changing his story, is shown to have a financial incentive for Kyle to be convicted, admits to having pointed his gun at Kyle and that he lied to police in his statement to them, tweeted during the trial like a fucking idiot, and the facebook post about Grosskreutz regretting not killing Kyle was brought up and resulted in his friend being served. Soon after Gaige finished, a detective took the stand and testified that the prosecution told him not to execute a search warrant on Gaige)

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Unlikely. Understandably tempting to believe, but unlikely.

I think fear of what would happen if they didn't charge him may have driven them going ahead with charging him despite there being such a strong self defense case. After all, they momentum of riots in general was still going, and they probably didn't want to make themselves fresh targets.

However I think their actual performance in court has been genuine. Either because they're true believers, or because they think winning their prosecution would be good for their career. They're just royally sucking at it because the facts are not even close to being on their side, leaving them with little to work with. They also might be unused to going up against defendants with a solid legal team. I assume they're usually going after low level criminals with little defense, and anyone who can put up a genuine fight usually gets an acceptable plea bargain negotiated rather than going all the way to trial.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the cops aren't too fond of the rioters and are being studiously neutral and honest with their testimony, which would tend to favor Kyle, but I wouldn't count on that either.

The cops that aren't Detective Armenian just sound like they're trying to cover their asses against Grosskreutz's lawsuit and are like the pajeet brothers in that way. Detective Armenian is clearly saying whatever the fuck the prosecution wants him to say, though.

 

[RodgerDodger]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

Viva Frei's streaming partner Robert Barnes thinks the Jury comes in predetermined in their minds. Some of them will still argue that he is guilty because he put himself in harms way in the middle of it. I find this approach incredibly unconstitutional. Because it implies that we cannot take steps to defend our communities should those charged with doing so abdicate.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

Well, whomstsoever failed to inform the prosecution that they are in fact not only allowed but highly encouraged and one might even say *expected* to interview their own witnesses before putting them on the stand should definitely be fired.

 

[SpergRush]

Comeon act like a total sped, I need my entertainment

Gross Klutz is probably a benzodiazepine eater. Not uncommon amongst medicos. Explains his odd calm while utterly fucking up. Also explains him spewing tweets - probably had a few pillies and beverages with his phone near by.

 

[Snekposter]

The cops that aren't Detective Armenian just sound like they're trying to cover their asses against Grosskreutz's lawsuit and are like the pajeet brothers in that way. Detective Armenian is clearly saying whatever the fuck the prosecution wants him to say, though.

Trust a Greek above a Jew, and a Jew above a snake, but never trust an Armenian.

 

[LateNightMuffin]

Binger won't get in trouble.

These Nazi thugs we call "prosecutors" -- have "absolute immunity." They claim it would be impossible to do their job without it (I beg to differ).

The worst thing that can happen to them--even if they are on film murdering you and everyone you know--is disbarment.

Nifong, anyone?

That's not how it works. "Absolute immunity" only applies to "actions committed in their official duties without malice or corrupt motives." so obviously if they are on film murdering you and everyone you know, that's not going to come under 'official duties,' and in this case if they determine he had malice or corrupt motives he wouldn't have immunity.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

Asking "why was he out after curfew" is just like asking "why was he speeding?"

 

[ProtonMailManTheSequel]

What’s the consensus for who’s getting the blame for Kyle (potentially) walking? It seems to be ‘prosecution is incompetent’ which is hilarious. What’s the slam-dunk case that armchair lawyer Redditors think could be presented that these ‘incompetent’ prosecutors are too greased to figure out?

WHITE BOY KILLED THREE WHITE MEN WHITE TRYING TO KILL WHITE BOY WHITE PROSECUTORS DUMB WHITE PROSECUTORS WHITE REPORTERS JUDGE OLD WHITE JUDGE WHITE SUPREMACY WHITE SUPREMACY WHITE SUPREMACY KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!

Why do I suspect most of those people calling for his execution there have vocally opposed the death penalty before this trial?

Because you're not r*tarded?

SHOOT ME NIGGER

And make it snappy!

And my own observation to close out this long day: This case should not be allowed to go to the jury. If this is not a case for a directed verdict, then that procedure has no meaning and should be eliminated from the Code. I get the sense that this judge has the balls to do the right thing, too.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Where's @Knight of the Rope effort summaries when you need it? I'm too lazy to go that in-depth

Flat out with work, unfortunately. Sucks too, since a lot of the memes and commentary in the thread that I saw even just skipping to the Highlights has been pretty lit.

 

[ProtonMailManTheSequel]

A Prosecutor has one job and that is to win, they are elected because they are good at what they do which is winning cases. A lawyer mostly has the interest in justice

You could not be more incorrect here. A prosector's job--what they are elected for--is to seek justice.

I don't want to live in your world (like I have a choice.....I know).

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

You could not be more incorrect here. A prosector's job--what they are elected for--is to seek justice.

I don't want to live in your world (like I have a choice.....I know).

And a politician's job--what they are elected for--is to serve and represent the people

Its almost like elected officials lie to get elected or something