9/16/2021 - Court case gets a continuance

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Chris' psych eval will spark a PHD thesis in psychology, mark my words. There's been so much speculation, including by farmers with a background in psychology, about what the shit aside from his autism is wrong with Chris and nobody can really agree. It's gotta be something unique. Maybe, in a few years, we will see the first proper diagnosis of Sonichu-Spectrum Personality Disorder or someshit.
He's not unique, there's one other person I've seen who is incredibly like Chris including his mannerisms, believing his daydreams are psychic powers and basically being a huge entitled creep and that person is Jeff Turner who featured in the documentary "I Think We're Alone Now":

There must be more out there.
 
That is, unless someone comes to his rescue and bails him out, but then there's the issue of where would he live.
Currently, they can't bail him out with any amount of money. The court declined to assign any bail amount and simply ordered him held without bail, not even a million dollars or some unreasonable amount. Not even Elon Musk could bail him out.
 
take it easy sped it's just a question
You get your answer, and act more dumb. Good for you 👍
He's not unique, there's one other person I've seen who is incredibly like Chris including his mannerisms, believing his daydreams are psychic powers and basically being a huge entitled creep and that person is Jeff Turner who featured in the documentary "I Think We're Alone Now":

There must be more out there.
That's fascinating. I wonder if theres a sort of "recipe" of illnesses that make people like that, or if it's more an environmental exposure thing. Nature or nurture type deal from his consumed media and the way Chris was shielded from the world and his disabilities.
 
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It's gotta be something unique. Maybe, in a few years, we will see the first proper diagnosis of Sonichu-Spectrum Personality Disorder or someshit.
As others have said, not unique. It's autism combined with an enduring wish to believe in imaginary friends and superhuman powers. Basically childish fantasies kept long past the point where he should have discarded them as the delusions that they are.
 
As others have said, not unique. It's autism combined with an enduring wish to believe in imaginary friends and superhuman powers. Basically childish fantasies kept long past the point where he should have discarded them as the delusions that they are.
Doesn't help his parents never bothered to shame them out of him.
 
Doesn't help his parents never bothered to shame them out of him.
I have no idea what I'm talking about here, but I believe this could be brought on by several factors. Without the life experience that encourages you to reflect on your own behaviors, you won't gain much self awareness. This can be encouraged by social isolation. Combine that with a lack of empathy and a dash of narcissism? The person in question will never have any motivation for the self awareness that leads to these positive traits... because there is no need to change. They will never stop embarassing themselves because their brains literally do not have the ability to process that what they are doing is wrong. They never learned how to integrate that because they never learned how to care about it. Shame will only drive them further into that blind defensiveness.

The only way to break the cycle is to admit that you can be wrong, but how can you do that when you may have been the only person you could rely on? How many years will you have spent wounding others, and how can you come to terms with that? I think this is why so many narcissists become abusers. I don't know if I feel pity for them, but if their brains are literally "wired incorrectly" it makes it a bit easier to understand why they do these things.

Ok, powerleveling over, please tell me why I'm full of shit and thank you.
 
Ok, powerleveling over, please tell me why I'm full of shit and thank you.
No, this is mostly correct according to what we know about narcissism in psychology/psychiatry so far, at least with regards to how the behavior gets perpetuated. Admiting to yourself that you've fucked up and hurt a lot of people means criticizing yourself in a way that you can't possibly cope with because you have most likely *never* reflected on your own behavior. And genuinely admitting that you've hurt just one person will mean that you have to come to terms with the rest of the shit you've done.

So 99.9% of narcissists just throw that opportunity for self reflection out of the window and go about justifying their actions and shifting the blame. Shaming them for it just reinforces their victim complex and may in turn generate new vendettas for them to go on.
 
I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.
 
I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.
Some of the tardwranglers were also excepcional, as shown by the High School leaks some teachers were pointing out and "fixing" grammar errors that did not exist.
 
I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.

Barb nor Bob were properly equipped to raise a child with severe autism. Even when Greene County seeked to have Chris sent to a "special school", it was pretty telling when they interpreted the idea to mean a nut-house.

Even if Bob did go through the effort of at least trying to ground his son by showing concern, Barb always had a history of mentally manipulating Chris. From using threats of suicide to guilt him into obeying her, to protecting him from his own shortcomings, it’s fair to say that a lot of this has attributed to his mental state.
 
I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.

Good points but remember, Bob was fucking old. He was also an Engineer. He saw that shit and did not have the energy to deal with it.
 
Did he not have the money to hire someone to help his kid or did he just not care?
He had money, but used it to buy friendship for his son as opposed to help. Bob had an old world view of professional help, and he did not want to go through it; he wanted to help Chris in his own way, which backfired horribly. The only professional help he even bothered to get Chris was speech therapy.
 
I think what added to it was that Chris wasn't forced to even care about himself.

I conform to societal norms not because I give a shit, just because it is advantageous to me. I don't really care at all, I just do it because it benefits me. Just like Trump on a campaign speech. He is really nice to the little folks, because it benefits him.
If the next day it was announced that weed is legal and I got the opportunity, I would happily grow it and sell it legally.

Chris on the other hand, was always provided for by the tugboat and could inflict any harm on himself and come out on top with your tax dollars at work.
Not only did his 'tism hamper his self reflection, his life never required him to self-reflect and plan ahead at all.
 
Barb nor Bob were properly equipped to raise a child with severe autism. Even when Greene County seeked to have Chris sent to a "special school", it was pretty telling when they interpreted the idea to mean a nut-house.

Even if Bob did go through the effort of at least trying to ground his son by showing concern, Barb always had a history of mentally manipulating Chris. From using threats of suicide to guilt him into obeying her, to protecting him from his own shortcomings, it’s fair to say that a lot of this has attributed to his mental state.
My own mother has that overdramatic, emotional manipulative attitude. The best thing to do is reduce contact to a bare minimum and let Momma know to let you be a fucking adult. Chris never got to that point.
 
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