Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[theshitposter]

Maybe if you guys didn't burn through mods so fast you could get help. Literally every Autism Thunderdome mod just vanishes after a few months. Yawning Sneasel, to this day, years after quitting admin, complains about this place and that it should be deleted outright and everybody banned.

I'll unfeature the thread but the problem here is how useless the average person is. Everyone wants to chime in with the quickest, easiest, lamest comment possible and few people want to spend time actually furthering the conversation, posting highlights, or doing anything useful.

what happened to the single word reply rule? this thread is riddled with 2-3 words comments

 

[Shchors]

Yes. He would have been been shot with his own gun

And the protesters think that he would've shot at them with his gun without any intervention,which is why in their mind it is justified to attack Rittenhouse to disarm him.Both your statement and their reasoning are based on paranoia

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

what happened to the single word reply rule? this thread is riddled with 2-3 words comments

The answer is literally in his post, there's no fucking mods in this hell because nobody can play nice, read posts, contribute anything or be reasonable. Keep pushing him though, it'll be funny when the thunderdome gets thunderdeleted

 

[Null]

what happened to the single word reply rule? this thread is riddled with 2-3 words comments

We have 20 staff members, not all active every day, and precisely zero that read A&H. It comes down to user reports.

"WHERE ARE THE JANNIES?" meanwhile, zero reports.

 

[theshitposter]

The answer is literally in his post, there's no fucking mods in this hell because nobody can play nice, read posts, contribute anything or be reasonable. Keep pushing him though, it'll be funny when the thunderdome gets thunderdeleted

We have 20 staff members, not all active every day, and precisely zero that read A&H. It comes down to user reports.

"WHERE ARE THE JANNIES?" meanwhile, zero reports.

are you saying that it is hard to find people on internet who want to power trip? just pick 3-4 randos from this thread. it's not like you've to pay them or something

 

[Michael Janke]

i think whats damning about this whole case so far, is the fact that the defense hasn't even started and many of us are already sure of Rittenhouse's victory
how often is it that the prosecution makes the defense look better while making themselves look worse at the same time?
im pretty sure a lot of people on the jury are already thinking the same thing we are.
they'll be swayed even more as the defense reinforces their case.

 

[WrenchWring]

And the protesters think that he would've shot at them with his gun without any intervention,which is why in their mind it is justified to attack Rittenhouse to disarm him.Both your statement and their reasoning are based on paranoia

Open carry is legal. You can't attack someone just because they're carrying a gun, you have to have a reason to think they're going to try to kill you. For example, if they're actively attempting to grab your gun, beat you to death, or shoot you, that's a very good reason to think they're trying to kill you.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

are you aying that it is hard to find people on internet who want to power trip? just pick 3-4 randos from this thread. it's not like you've to pay them or something

He literally just complained about the average user being fucking retarded and lazy, do you really think he's just gonna say "fuck it" and pick 3-4 randos

 

[Roybertitos]

And the protesters think that he would've shot at them with his gun without any intervention,which is why in their mind it is justified to attack Rittenhouse to disarm him.Both your statement and their reasoning are based on paranoia

I don't really understand the mindset you're going at with this. If you hear gunshots and see a guy running away towards the police cars, does your mind automatically think that he's a mass shooter and you should chase him down to... citizen's arrest him before he can get to the cops? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

Now I didn't go to an American school so I wasn't taught what to do during an active shooter situation, but I thought the first thing you have to do is get the hell away from the shooter and only fight when you're cornered and can't run anywhere else. If you're chasing a guy with a rifle and get shot, I don't think you should be surprised at that outcome.

 

[ConSluttant]

No it does not.Someone trying to gouge your eyes or shoot point blank at your vehicle or rape you in the ass,now that's what justify lethal force.
Here's a mental excercise.Do you honestly believe that Rittenhouse would've died or otherwise suffer permanent and debilitating injury had he not excercise lethal force? I don't.I think he would've ended up black and blue but i don't think it warrants shooting 2 people

You know nothing about the law of self defense. Kill yourself faggot. Everything you said is wrong.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

The defense really needs to make it clear to the jury that Gaige was lying about seeing Kyle "re-rack" his rifle. You can visibly see both of his hands stay on the rifle, so there is no way he could have possibly grabbed the charging handle.


I actually sat down with one of my ARs and starting with both hands on it tried to pull the charging handle and return my hands before the guy in the foreground finishes running past Kyle. I wasn't able to even come close, an I didn't have to worry about reaction time, and I used an AR with a bcm gunfighter 2 charging handle which is easier to grab than the one on Kyle's rifle.

Unless Kyle graduated top of his class in the Navy seals, and has been involved in numerous secret raids on Al Qaeda, there is no way he would be able to do it that fast.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

No it does not.Someone trying to gouge your eyes or shoot point blank at your vehicle or rape you in the ass,now that's what justify lethal force.
Here's a mental excercise.Do you honestly believe that Rittenhouse would've died or otherwise suffer permanent and debilitating injury had he not excercise lethal force? I don't.I think he would've ended up black and blue but i don't think it warrants shooting 2 people

Luckily, the standard is what a reasonable person would think, not what you would think.

 

[Hyro]

No it does not.Someone trying to gouge your eyes or shoot point blank at your vehicle or rape you in the ass,now that's what justify lethal force.
Here's a mental excercise.Do you honestly believe that Rittenhouse would've died or otherwise suffer permanent and debilitating injury had he not excercise lethal force? I don't.I think he would've ended up black and blue but i don't think it warrants shooting 2 people

All it takes is one unfortunate punch to the head in just the wrong way to kill you. If we want to play "who should have done what" the exceptional individuals who got shot should have just not chased after him and let him go.

 

[Slimy Time]

All it takes is one unfortunate punch to the head in just the wrong way to kill you. If we want to play "who should have done what" the exceptional individuals who got shot should have just not chased after him and let him go.

There is a reason why rabbit punching is banned in almost all combat sports, and it's precisely for that reason. Clean hit there can damage the cervical vertebrae or detach the brain stem.

Skateboard to the back of the head, if hit with enough force or with the wrong part of the board...could absolutely kill someone.

 

[Gehenna]

God, what the fuck happened to this subforum?

A grandma drops an N-word with hard R, and an Autist demolishes the prosecution's case, turning the entire trial into a fucking farce of such majesty that it will be talked about in legal circles for years after this. You basically have what is peak fodder for the Farms to milk for comedy gold.

Yet you come in here now and it's peak doomer hours. Null's right, this forum is retarded.

The doomers always flood out after something indisputably good happens. They want to drag everyone down with them, so any sort of good is utterly anathema to their sad, sad existence.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

All it takes is one unfortunate punch to the head in just the wrong way to kill you. If we want to play "who should have done what" the exceptional individuals who got shot should have just not chased after him and let him go.

It is possible to die from being punched in the head but not likely, and in practice using a gun against someone hitting you with their fists is not considered proportional in most cases.

 

[Gehenna]

It is possible to die from being punched in the head but not likely, and in practice using a gun against someone hitting you with their fists is not considered proportional in most cases.

But lunging for someone's gun sure makes it proportionate, as does using a weapon. Like a chain in a bag.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

No it does not.Someone trying to gouge your eyes or shoot point blank at your vehicle or rape you in the ass,now that's what justify lethal force.
Here's a mental excercise.Do you honestly believe that Rittenhouse would've died or otherwise suffer permanent and debilitating injury had he not excercise lethal force? I don't.I think he would've ended up black and blue but i don't think it warrants shooting 2 people

Self-defense isn't limited to protecting yourself from being killed, it also means you protect yourself from being harmed ie: beaten.

If your whole argument is "They would have only beaten him into a bloody pulp, so there was no reason to fight back" you're either a troll or a faggot. And you're being plain ridiculous if you need to be told that no one has the right to beat someone on a whim and they just have to let it happen, cause fighting back is not allowed.

Do you really expect someone to accept getting attacked by an angry manlet screaming bloody murder in the vain hope that the guy would be content with only fucking your shit up without permanently crippling or even killing you? Do you expect someone to then just stop and let the violence of the mob wash over them hoping none of them will kill him in the process? And that's not even touching the topic of Rosenbong trying to grab the rifle, potentially using it to harm or kill Kyle or whoever caught his eye. In contrast to Kyle, Rosenbaum was out and cruisin' for a bruisin' and that faggot kiddy diddler would have no qualms of opening fire with that gun indiscriminately given the chance.

 

[Slimy Time]

It is possible to die from being punched in the head but not likely, and in practice using a gun against someone hitting you with their fists is not considered proportional in most cases.

Depends on circumstances. I would say a mob of people coming to beat the shit out of you would probably be good enough. You can find those videos of groups of people beating people to death with hands and feet. Or someone trying to go for your gun. Or in the case of Trayvon Martin, slamming the guy's head on the concrete and throwing punches ground and pound style.

But no, if I came up to you and decked you, and you shot me, that would not be proportionate. Context matters.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

Self-defense isn't limited to protect yourself from being killed, it also means you protect yourself from being harmed ie: beaten.

If your whole argument is "They would have only beaten him into a bloody pulp, so there was no reason to fight back" you're either a troll or a faggot.

It has to be great bodily harm, and self defense always depends in the "totality of the circumstances." That's why I said "in most cases."

And I'm not making any connection to the Rittenhouse case. The people Kyle shot either tried to grab his gun, or used weapons against him.