Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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Enough men have told me in secret that they were sometimes insecure about their sexuality during their teens. It's just something they don't want women to know, because they think it threatens their masculinity (maybe it does?). I think the only completely homosexual men are naturally very effiminate men. I've listened once to a podcast and the topic was about a very ugly older Filipino who seduced single straight guys to give them blowjobs. His procedure was quite simple: You caught them by telling them that they get money by just watching straight porn and masturbating. When they're aroused enough, you slowly get closer to them and touch them slightly and surprisingly most of them are then ready to get a handjob or a blowjob. The only boundaries for most of those straight guys was kissing and anal sex. I was quite intrigued by this, especially since it's true and not the staged porn with fake straight men you often see on the internet.
That says very little about straight male sexuality and a lot about that one guy being a creep. The men in that position were already being paid, which makes the whole thing meaningless in terms of their sexual desire (if a lesbian gives you a lap dance while pretending to be into you, she is still a lesbian), and then the old guy suddenly pushed a sex act on them which they had not initially agreed to (how desperate were they for the money, and were they worried they wouldn't get it if they backed out after already committing this much time to it? Are we talking dudes who just want extra cash, or heroin addicts?).

That might not actually be sexual assault by its legal definition, but it's definitely gross, and says nothing about the "fluidity" of the men he did it to.
 
The more trannies I see, the more I think that they're actually just very confused autistic men.
This. Also, many of them had the experience, as children, of being patronised by adults and other children, because autism made them emotionally/socially immature. 'Real men' aren't supposed to be immature, or be patronised, so 'being a woman' gives them a sort of escape route for the shame they might otherwise experience at not being a 'real man'. They sexually imprint on that psychological dilemma/situation somehow.

Likewise, some of the ABDLs have had actual incontinence or other bowel problems from childhood, which go hand in hand with autism. And a similar story with Bob Flanagan/Supermasochist, the longest living person with cystic fibrosis (you may recognise him as the poor sod in Nine Inch Nails' 'Happiness in Slavery' music video.)
 
The write up that @fax machine did really fascinates me. This thread might be less eventful than others but I tend to read and respond in this the most because I will never be able to get over my awe at how bottomless Olly's ego really is.

Every single thing he does invariably bends back around to patting him on the back and massaging his sense of self importance. Everything. It all occurs for the benefit of Oliver Abigail Lennard Thorn Esq, the most important conscious entity in the universe, interacting with fans just leads to him self promoting and trying to sell his own corny jokes (about himself) rather than seriously helping with their queries, LGBT activism is best understood as a platform that makes Oliver more well known, same with his youtube career, and of course transphobia is a bad thing primarily because it makes Oliver himself feel a bit bad about his delusional self image and demands he makes on the rest of society.

Its so fucking transparent, he talks in the most robotic and uninterested way about Leftism and things like radical Marxist revolutionary politics, but his heart is not in it at all. He only took on the trappings of revolutionary Marxism because that's what everybody else in the Breadtube sphere that he's been exploiting to gain profile expects. He never really talks about leftist theory at all now, and when he did it was wikipedia level shit. Say what you will about some wacky weirdo like Caleb Maupin I think he probably actually does care about Leftism and Marxism on a deep seated level and has read enough of it that he can build his worldview and analysis around it.

So what is it that Olly really wants? What is it that motivates him? Its definitely not delivering control of the means of production to the working masses, oh no, its his ability to say that he knows somebody quite famous, his ability to say that he had Nigella Lawson on his youtube show (famous working class leftist radical Nigella Lawson), his ability to say that he's the most in-demand actress in the country as seen on smash hit TV Show Django (yeah, you might have heard of it...).

This Ten Thousand Posts podcast appearance is the perfect example, endlessly dropping the fact that he knows somebody else "quite famous", tons of "quite famous" people actually, just so you are aware that Agibail the queen has been hobnobbing with the movers and shakers of elite society, like a good working class activist you know. And I love the way that he never specifies who these people actually are, either because it may burst his bubble if the person he's talking to doesn't know who they are, and thus aren't actually that famous, or because if they do know who they are it might take attention away from him, Empress of Youtube Abigail Thorn. Now he's gotten to the point that he openly admits he thinks he's too good for youtube, oh no, Olly won't be seen dead on the platform where he made his name and got most of his fanbase, he's big time now, he's going to be on the Telly or even the Cinema screen since his starlight can't be contained by something as lowly as fucking youtube. And don't forget, Olly still definitely cares a lot about leftism and the working class and isn't just a cynical social climber. By the way did I mention that he now fully embraces his title as an influencer because of course, he is so influential and important to the peons that he may as well own it?

Its just so repulsive, there's lots of reasons to talk shit about her but I'd take somebody like Contrapoints every time over this, at least she gives some sense of genuine introspection and vulnerability, at the very least she doesn't outright state that she thinks she's too important for the internet now.

He is going to be major fucked when he finally gets brave enough to announce he's off youtube.
He's hedging it at the moment, but when DJANGO! actually gets released, he will be overcome with the excitement and will rush into it.

And then, mark it, he'll be fucked, becasue he absolutely sucks at acting lol.
His only ever successful forays into it, despite it being his whole life of trying, have been post troon (2 roles), in a (visibly reduced from what it was obv supposed to be ) role on a quite decent BBC comedy- where he was absolutely awful, and they couldn't leave enough of him on the cutting room floor;
and, django -which sadly for the producers, is a bigger longer affair, and they will have had to get very, very used to what a mistake they made.

Yeah, he'll get overexcited, dramatically quit youtube for the 'big time', before the first episode even finishes airing. Then, watch the phone never ring.

It will be at this point that he either goes 'activism' mental twitter breakdown saga, does some only fans adjacent thing...

Oh! Yeah just realised, Django is probably due to come out roundabout when his god awful stage play will be.

Haha. We are in for some Tube Golden Years in 2022.
It'll be very boring til then.

Right now all he does is pretend that a very expensive cat is a stray, and has adopted him(tho suspiciously no photos of it actually inside or near him) as some of his twitter followers beg him to take it home, while other ones keep pointing out in a worried fashion, that it is very unlikely a stray and to take it to the vet to see if its chipped, which Tube ignores, lol.

He has now finished filming, so we will likely see more bored narc tantrums on twitter in the long winter nights of having no mates, lol.
 
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You can get some long form Oliver Thorn humble-bragging this week about his upcoming fame and fortune in the mainstream entertainment biz on the "Ten Thousand Posts" podcast, which is a spinoff of the sort of anti-tech left podcast "Trashfuture"


I don't think it's possible for a YouTuber to grasp the fact that the only reason he has an internet audience is being a non-porn outlet for self-hating troon-horny spergs, nor do I think it's possible for him to grasp that the only reason he'll show up in any non-internet media is the fact that the Labour party fucked itself into a corner with a loser like Keir Starmer and the only way out is throwing their hats in with the troon troops of the culture war.
 
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GAGA???? Seriously, has he lost his mind?????? Gaga I am so sorry that this perverted autogynephile would even say that. The other comparisons were just dumb but this one is SO unbelievably disrespectful I can't believe he has the audacity. You know what you actually look like Olly? The one on the right just with long hair and more makeup.
 
That's offensive to my man Adam Driver. He has some real talent unlike SOME trooned out ex-theatre frauds.
this just made something occuring to me; initally thought, lol, imagine seeing the disparty in acting if Driver and Tube were ever on screen together, just how surreal it would be- then got to thinking, i wonder what the cast in this Django will be like, and how bad he will be in comparison?

He was appalling in his tiny role in the BBC thing, which was a low budget, cheap and cheerful, mea culpa, weird one-man narrative comedy thing, wasn't supposed to be a big drama or anything.
And in that he was so, so bad compared to everyone else.

If anyone good, or even passable is in this, its gonna be hilarious- if Tube gets a lot of lines, win, cos we get to lol at every one- if he's hardly in it, we lol, because he's been none-stop tweeting from there which means he's either been cut to shit from it, or he's just ben making a massive deal out of not much, and been a hassle to edit around. Win win either way.

Despite his constant crowing on the subject, I've got no idea whcih 'major major stars' are co-acting, or writing, or directing this thing, so its a mystery 'til its on.
Tbh genuinely shocked they cast him anyway, unless its some real low budget, vinage channel 5 stlye shit- guess they just fell foul of his ever so brief Out moment...more likely its some favour for his writer brother that happened to coincide with said moment, with some troon friendly casting dept handmaiden.

whatever the weather, we've some lols incoming.
 
I think the cast of Django is available if you google it.

What always makes me laugh is I envision Oliver there in his Abigail costume, and how creepy and awkward he probably is around a (presumably) good looking cast of twenty- and thirty-somethings. I mean even Contra could affect his drag persona and get high and snap a lot and play the court jester to the cast. They could go to a drag club and do it up or whatever. He could be their comic relief.

Meanwhile Oliver is probably sticking out his tongue on set and off and making everyone fell hella uncomfortable calling his fellow actors “babes.” Can you not see him sitting there at the bar table (after an initial pity invite) and regaling them all with talk of his stupid tranny play? How long before they ditch him? I wonder how many takes were blown because “Abigail” stuck his tongue out apropos of nothing in the middle of them? But anyway yeah I figure that’s why Oliver is befriending (allegedly) stray cats and tweeting all night, while the rest of the cast goes out drinking, sight-seeing and partying. And hooking up. “Abigail” will soon tweet about the “transphobia” he encountered in Hollywood or in the British film and tv scene because go figure normal movie and tv stars wanted to bang each other and not rat-nest-haired Princess Abigail.
 
Despite his constant crowing on the subject, I've got no idea whcih 'major major stars' are co-acting, or writing, or directing this thing, so its a mystery 'til its on.
Tbh genuinely shocked they cast him anyway, unless its some real low budget, vinage channel 5 stlye shit- guess they just fell foul of his ever so brief Out moment...more likely its some favour for his writer brother that happened to coincide with said moment, with some troon friendly casting dept handmaiden.

whatever the weather, we've some lols incoming.
The biggest stars in Django are Noomi Rapace (original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and Matthias Schoenaerts (who leads a lot of French and Belgian films and plays support in a few Hollywood productions. I didn't recognize his name, but realized while scrolling Wikipedia that I'd seen him in Rust and Bone, The Danish Girl, and The Old Guard). There's also Lisa Vicari — Martha from Dark, the sensational German Netflix show.

Looks respectable. Strange for a bunch of Italians and Frenchies to fund a reimagining of an American Western shot in Romania, but maybe they'll make something good of it. I'd prefer it to be good because lbr we'll be watching.
I think the cast of Django is available if you google it.

What always makes me laugh is I envision Oliver there in his Abigail costume, and how creepy and awkward he probably is around a (presumably) good looking cast of twenty- and thirty-somethings. I mean even Contra could affect his drag persona and get high and snap a lot and play the court jester to the cast. They could go to a drag club and do it up or whatever. He could be their comic relief.

Meanwhile Oliver is probably sticking out his tongue on set and off and making everyone fell hella uncomfortable calling his fellow actors “babes.” Can you not see him sitting there at the bar table (after an initial pity invite) and regaling them all with talk of his stupid tranny play? How long before they ditch him? I wonder how many takes were blown because “Abigail” stuck his tongue out apropos of nothing in the middle of them? But anyway yeah I figure that’s why Oliver is befriending (allegedly) stray cats and tweeting all night, while the rest of the cast goes out drinking, sight-seeing and partying. And hooking up. “Abigail” will soon tweet about the “transphobia” he encountered in Hollywood or in the British film and tv scene because go figure normal movie and tv stars wanted to bang each other and not rat-nest-haired Princess Abigail.
See, I can't tell if he'd do his usual cringe with his career on the line. He's obsessed with becoming an actor; he's a careerist through and through. He seems convinced on livestreams that he can succeed without an inch of skill as long as he's "good to work with," which is to say: not a flaming narcissist on the face. He saves that for the Internet, where he can dump on his fans and wallow in their worship without consequences. At work, he has no such power. I'm sure he does his best impression of loveliness on set.

Of course he is, as established, a terrible actor, so maybe his ego shines through regardless. Either way, if he experiences what he perceives as transphobia, I think he'll keep quiet, contrary to online grandstanding. His principles are cheap. He wants this so bad. He will happily shut up and smile if it means not being perceived as trouble, and potentially landing another job.

Meanwhile he will terrorize his fans even more than usual for the sin of loving him unconditionally and accepting his shit.

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yeah don't worry about having confusing feelings about girls like wanting to GOBBLE THEM UP AND TAN THEIR HIDES AND WEAR THEM AS COATS IN THE SPRING
 
How long before they ditch him? I wonder how many takes were blown because “Abigail” stuck his tongue out apropos of nothing in the middle of them?
I mean on a business level for the producers.
Step 1: Give minor role to a tranny with a social media following
Step 2: Get all their fans to pay for your product just to watch the tranny's minor appearance
Step 3: profit

Doesn't matter if the end product is good or not. Smaller productions usually don't get much viewership outside of the world of film/TV show nerds. I totally think they gave him a role, having his following in mind.

I wonder how they're gonna make this thing look even slightly womanly.
 
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