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On the bright side normally heavily-in-denial lefty hobby groups I am (unfortunately) a part of are getting BTFO whenever they try to make a political post and the memes are getting better
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Not Guilty, pure Not Guilty.As someone who's very knowledgeable about the area. What do you think the verdict will be if you had a gun to your head asking? I'm genuinely curious.
This also seems to match the 3 or so people who were claiming that the jury stopped taking notes during the cross examination and even looked at Kyle's own mom who was weeping.Not Guilty, pure Not Guilty.
It's mostly women, who are more prone to emotional arguments, and things that make them think of their kids/kids in general. The point that it tipped over to near certainty was ironically entirely an own goal by Binger. When Kyle was breaking down when describing how he stopped Rosenbaum being a threat. And Binger -kept fucking pushing it-.
At that moment, Binger totally lost the jury. At that exact point is when they stopped seeing Rittenhouse as a possible aggressor, and instead saw him as a young kid, who was in a terribly dangerous situation, who had to do an unspeakable act to just not fucking die. At that moment all the jury wanted to do was collectively go down there and give him a hug.
I'd rate this winner if I could, the strategy of putting Kyle on to testify and giving Binger enough rope paid off right there.Not Guilty, pure Not Guilty.
It's mostly women, who are more prone to emotional arguments, and things that make them think of their kids/kids in general. The point that it tipped over to near certainty was ironically entirely an own goal by Binger. When Kyle was breaking down when describing how he stopped Rosenbaum being a threat. And Binger -kept fucking pushing it-.
At that moment, Binger totally lost the jury. At that exact point is when they stopped seeing Rittenhouse as a possible aggressor, and instead saw him as a young kid, who was in a terribly dangerous situation, who had to do an unspeakable act to just not fucking die. At that moment all the jury wanted to do was collectively go down there and give him a hug.
One conservative parent. I can see a liberal german shepard mom convicting. I'm thinking over 50% hung jury because one liberal activist got through. Acquittal is the second most likely. There's no way they convict.If there is even a single parent on that jury, it's a hung jury at worst. That mother will hold out to the end of time because she'll see her own kids in Rittenhouse every time she closes her eyes.
The left craves the acknowledgment of their peers. In that room where the jury deliberates, their peers would be several moms who are -lived- at the very -idea- Rittenhouse is guilty.One conservative parent. I can see a liberal german shepard mom convicting. I'm thinking over 50% hung jury because one liberal activist got through. Acquittal is the second most likely. There's no way they convict.
Still, that would lead to mistrial, putting Kyle at risk to be put up on the stand once more.If there is even a single parent on that jury, it's a hung jury at worst. That mother will hold out to the end of time because she'll see her own kids in Rittenhouse every time she closes her eyes.
If there's like 80% reasonable people who can see this is clearly a bogus trial and it's clearly self defense, would not be surprised if the single exceptional leftist adamant on a guilty verdict pissed off enough people that someone would start throwing hands.The left craves the acknowledgment of their peers. In that room where the jury deliberates, their peers would be several moms who are -lived- at the very -idea- Rittenhouse is guilty..
You need a critical mass of hardline leftists to just hold.
If you're right on that, I go acquittal. If the Barnes estimate (and I don't know of another) is even close to correct we've got about 2/3 swayable plus not guilty on that jury. And the swayable definitely got swayed.The left craves the acknowledgment of their peers. In that room where the jury deliberates, their peers would be several moms who are -lived- at the very -idea- Rittenhouse is guilty..
You need a critical mass of hardline leftists to just hold.
On the subject of a re-trial. That'd go like fucking hell for the prosecution. Kraus and Binger were picked because they were the only guys slimy enough to -try- to prosecute this. And even if they somehow did, expect the Defense to laser focus every slimy tactic that the Prosecution used and completely destroy them preemptively. Also lots of -great- clips from this trial to use.Still, that would lead to mistrial, putting Kyle at risk to be put up on the stand once more.
I hope its full-acquittal so the kid can finally rest a bit.
You are honestly the much needed whitepilling this thread needs, and for that I thank you.On the subject of a re-trial. That'd go like fucking hell for the prosecution. Kraus and Binger were picked because they were the only guys slimy enough to -try- to prosecute this. And even if they somehow did, expect the Defense to laser focus every slimy tactic that the Prosecution used and completely destroy them preemptively. Also lots of -great- clips from this trial to use.
This seems to be the role I exist for on the Farms. I tend towards pragmatism, but the doomerism on the farms tends to be... very disconnected from reality. In the end just pointing out the situation as it is, and not just the blackest version spinnable of it, seems to be a whitepill to people.You are honestly the much needed whitepilling this thread needs, and for that I thank you.
The problem with retrial is that Binger was almost seemingly going for it to retry and get a more "politically friendly" judge to allow him to pull the shady shit.On the subject of a re-trial. That'd go like fucking hell for the prosecution. Kraus and Binger were picked because they were the only guys slimy enough to -try- to prosecute this. And even if they somehow did, expect the Defense to laser focus every slimy tactic that the Prosecution used and completely destroy them preemptively. Also lots of -great- clips from this trial to use.
I don't think Binger's goal was a retrial. I think he was actually trying to push for a mistrial with prejudice as the only way to really save his career by both dropping the case and getting a symbolic 'win' by forcing the 'biased' judge to act.The problem with retrial is that Binger was almost seemingly going for it to retry and get a more "politically friendly" judge to allow him to pull the shady shit.
It's obvious noone besides this scum wanted to prosecute it because it was open and shut self defense, but hopefully being a genuine POS being ridiculed all over the country allows some deterent.
Who else can techinacally bring up charges if there is another Binger out there that isn't afriad of a "lost case"?
Idk why people are so blackpilled about this. The case has only gotten progressively worse for the prosecution as the trial went on.
I am curious though. Why do you think the judge allowed this dumb picture in as evidence to begin with? It's obviously nonsense and I don't think it's going to change much at all.This seems to be the role I exist for on the Farms. I tend towards pragmatism, but the doomerism on the farms tends to be... very disconnected from reality. In the end just pointing out the situation as it is, and not just the blackest version spinnable of it, seems to be a whitepill to people.