Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

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OK, I’ve found the Tiktok account where the Mom parades what looks to be a baby with issues but doesn’t talk about them. Just says “She looks just like her dad!”

It’s hard to convey in a screenshot, but this kid looks oddly stiff and unresponsive, obsessively mouths her hands in every single video, has really low set ears and small looking eyes. Thoughts?
Diagnosed cute little girl. Not sure of the condition, though.
 
My first thought was an Accutane baby, because I took that stuff for my extreme acne when I was young and the inserts were full of dire warnings about the monsters that would slouch towards Bethlehem to be born if you got pregnant while taking it:
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Oh good theory!
 
I'm not a medical professional, but I'm gonna go with trisomy as well. She looks like other t13 and t18 kids I've seen.

Sadly most kids with t13 and t18 die pretty young. They have lots of health issues, especially heart and lung issues.

As long as the mom isnt using her kids to shill pyramid schemes or doing death baby fashion shows or some shit I figure she's not really a cow if she's just posting her kid sometimes and being quiet at the diagnosis.

Kayli hasn't been brought up in a while but her mom, on the other hand, is absolutely a cow.
 
I'm not a medical professional, but I'm gonna go with trisomy as well. She looks like other t13 and t18 kids I've seen.

Sadly most kids with t13 and t18 die pretty young. They have lots of health issues, especially heart and lung issues.

As long as the mom isnt using her kids to shill pyramid schemes or doing death baby fashion shows or some shit I figure she's not really a cow if she's just posting her kid sometimes and being quiet at the diagnosis.

Kayli hasn't been brought up in a while but her mom, on the other hand, is absolutely a cow.
It might be a trisomy. I hope it isnt for the reasons you listed. They look like a cute little family.

No parent is perfect and I don't expect very young moms to be perfect. She seems to love her daughter and is trying.
 
Hmm, neither Noonan nor Turner have feet/cleft palate things noted. Would've leaned towards Turner out of the two. FAS does, however, have joint abnormalities and cleft lip as possibilities.

This came up as I was googling pictures.

Cosanguinous Egyptians manage to produce just... random ass chromosome arrangements. I guess if you keep playing the inbred lottery enough then eventually some weird shit survives?
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Think about that for a second. Three 21st chromosome copies. One X chromosome copy. By gods the parents nearly had it! Math is hard ya know.

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No wait no that's not it either! Back to the inbred drawing board.

Actual counts:
Mosaic cell lines (45, X/47, XY, +21)
Mosaic (46, X, +21/47, XX, +21)
(48, XXY, +21)
Not all the same family though I mean, that just makes it worse.
So, the Patient 3 would be a tall person with Down Syndrome.

I once saw a TV show about extremely tall people, and one of them was a man over 7 feet tall who had both Klinefelter's syndrome and Marfan syndrome. He lived an otherwise normal life, and did say he was infertile (common with KS) and that's why he wasn't married; the one woman he'd wanted to marry felt that having biological children was very important, and that's why they ended the relationship. He also played in a string quartet, and it was almost kind of funny to see those huge fingers on that relatively small violin.

I also saw a picture in a medical book of a man who had achondroplastic dwarfism and Down syndrome, although the book was old enough to describe him as a Mongolian idiot. :(
 
The baby is about 10 months old now, if it was Trisomy 13/Patau wouldn’t she be more deteriorated? No sign of cleft lip at birth.
My money was on FAS based on the first pics but in earlier pictures she does have a more defined filtrum.
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Is it okay to say this is one of homeliest infants I've ever seen?
 
Believe what the child has is Patau Syndrome.
I think it could be trisomy 18, also known as Edwards syndrome. It doesn't look like trisomy 13 to me.

The hands are a dead giveaway. Babies with trisomy 18 have very distinctive hands, which are clenched with the second (index) finger overlapping the third and the fifth (pinky) finger overlapping the fourth. Trisomy 18 also causes various other anatomical abnormalities, including a small and recessed mandible (micrognathia), small "whistling" mouth, severe microcephaly, low set and malrotated ears, and "rocker bottom" feet, or congenital vertical talus, in which the sole of the foot looks convex due to abnormal contracture of the ankle combined with a misshapen calcaneus (heel bone). It also results in significant neuroanatomical abnormalities.

Trisomy 18, along with trisomy 13 (Patau syndrome) and trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) are the most common human trisomies. Unlike T21, trisomies 13 and 18 are considered incompatible with life, with most affected fetuses dying before or very shortly after birth.

The baby is about 10 months old now, if it was Trisomy 13/Patau wouldn’t she be more deteriorated? No sign of cleft lip at birth.
Yes, you're correct. I suspect that this kid might have a mosaic trisomy, in which the extra chromosome is in some or most cells of the body, but not all of them. This can result in attenuated symptoms and longer survival. Unfortunately, there's no way to predict which cells will get the extra chromosome, so there's also no way of predicting which organ systems will be affected. Most, if not all, longer-term survivors of these "incompatible with life" aneuploidies are actually mosaic cases.

Also, not every individual with a given syndrome will display every characteristic. It's part of what makes diagnosing some of these rare disorders so tricky. Genetic diagnosis is very complicated because you sort of have to have an idea what you're looking for before you perform the test.

More on this later.

Stetson's mother posted a new update:
Jesus Christ. Let this poor kid die already. It is so incredibly cruel to allow another human being to suffer like these children do when it is possible to stop choosing invasive, heroic measures. Stetson and kids like him are completely powerless, even more than healthy children. His mother is actively choosing to do this to him and it's the worst kind of selfishness.

She looks like Vin Diesel to me.

Going to read up on some more of those inbred Egyptians. Shits fascinating so thank you for bring them up.
I also recommend looking up Saudi case reports. They are another highly consanguineous population. A PubMed search for "consanguineous" and "Saudi" might be interesting to you.
 
Here are some more pictures.
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Her feet are janky as well. She recently had an unknown procedure and take tiktoks at the doctor. There is something else wrong as that was my first guess, but she may have had a cleft palate, which was not confirmed or denied.
It isn't just her feet of ears. Look at the bones in her legs and arms.

Something is up with the little one. Whether mom chooses to share the diagnosis with the world is up to her.
 
It isn't just her feet of ears. Look at the bones in her legs and arms.

Something is up with the little one. Whether mom chooses to share the diagnosis with the world is up to her.
Trisomy 18 in particular can cause arthrogryposis, which is calqued from the Greek for "hooked joints". It refers to multiple joint contractures which develop prior to birth.

Arthrogryposis itself is almost always symptom of some other problem rather than a standalone diagnosis. The underlying etiologies are extremely diverse, but ultimately, it is part of the fetal akinesia sequence, a set of deformities resulting from a lack of fetal movement in utero. This is usually a result of an abnormality with the fetus, but can also happen if there's something about the mother's anatomy which physically prevents fetal movement, like a uterine tumor.

In cases like this, the cause is likely neurological. Because of the brain malformations caused by her underlying syndrome, she wasn't able to move around normally inside the uterus. As is the case with joint contractures that arise later in life, the lack of movement causes muscles and connective tissues to stiffen, and eventually they lose range of motion and can even become "locked" in one position. Joint contractures are painful; people who are able to describe the feeling say that it's like an intense cramp that cannot be relieved. This is one reason why even potato babies who are never expected to walk receive intensive physical therapy - stretching and weight bearing helps them gain and retain normal range of motion in their joints, which can reduce the discomfort and pain caused by contractures. Maintaining range of motion also makes it easier for caregivers to assist with activities of daily living, like bathing, dressing, and changing diapers. Imagine trying to put clothing on a rigid, permanently twisted body belonging to a person who isn't able to move around to help. Being "stuck" in one position from joint contractures also contributes to pressure sores and decubitus ulcers, especially in patients whose skeletal structure is very deformed as a result or those who have very low body fat, as is the case in many neuromuscular disorders. Having a poky bit of your skeleton poking you from the inside 24 hours a day is uncomfortable at best and can cause skin breakdown at worst.
 
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If the baby does have trisomy hopefully it's a mosaic form, and either way hopefully she can live as comfortable and happy a life as possible.

There are a lot of nutty fundie moms with trisomy kids, and either way lurking in trisomy groups most of these kids seem to be dead before their 5th birthday :(
 
If the baby does have trisomy hopefully it's a mosaic form, and either way hopefully she can live as comfortable and happy a life as possible.

There are a lot of nutty fundie moms with trisomy kids, and either way lurking in trisomy groups most of these kids seem to be dead before their 5th birthday :(
The fact that she's not dead suggests it's a mosaic trisomy. They can be tough to diagnose.

I read an article earlier this week about how all case reports of "full" trisomy 9 are probably actually mosaic cases in which all of the cells tested happened to be abnormal. I tried to find it again but haven't had luck yet, but it was interesting reading and certainly provided food for thought. For various reasons, a lot of these social media Warrior Mamas are very invested in their kid having the Worst Thing with the most dismal prognosis, and they are super quick to claim a full aneuploidy so that their "miracle" seems more legitimate. In reality, almost all of the fetuses with these kind of diagnoses that manage to survive to term, much less beyond, are likely mosaics.
 
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