Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
    3,199
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I think mistrial is the most likely. Best case will always be full aquittal. I'm interesting on what will happen if the Jury goes, "So he isn't guilty of murder but they gave us these lesser charges so we'll say he was guilty of x". I can totally see female jurors doing that, especially if they want to be like, "He doesn't deserve to rot in prison but he should be punished for acting recklessly." Or as a means of getting a juror saying guilty to conceed to not guilty on the big charges at least.
All the primary lesser charges were struck. The only ones allowed in where all pretty basic ones to pop in and would be covered by self-defense. It's a case where if he fails the self-defense claim he basically fails everything.
 
The problem is that the provocation instruction makes the jury think there was provocation so any Karen’s on the jury will think that a big scary gun was provocation even though it clearly isn’t.
Counterpoint, something like 40 to 50 percent of WI residents own firearms. That obviously includes women, btw.
 
So for all those doomposting

If Kyle is guilty it'll likely go to appeals and enough people, INCLUDING lefties have seen this and figured out he's innocent that this entire situation will redpill the fuck out of a lot of people.

Keep in mind this is worst possible outcome and it's VERY likely more than 1 person on that jury isn't like "HMMMMM YES 7 PIXEL BIGFOOT PHOTO VERSUS HD VIDEO FOOTAGE AND A WEEK OF VERY CLEAR SELF DEFENSE TESTIMONY HES GUILTY" and is willing to talk people into sanity.
 
Putting their faith on the jury on a case where the sitting President and every media company have a strong opinion against them was a bad idea.
You got no argument from me here. But we're working with very limited data: all we have are streams with notoriously shitty audio.

The lawyers can see the jury and their reactions. They've got a big data point we don't have. So if they're that confident in their success they're either completely retarded (I find that unlikely), or Binger & Krauss shat the bed with the jury even harder than it seems.

The problem is that the provocation instruction makes the jury think there was provocation so any Karen’s on the jury will think that a big scary gun was provocation even though it clearly isn’t.
Easy there. I don't want to hand people copium, but these are Karens from a County with fewer than 200k inhabitants. They are a lot more likely to be at least passably familiar with guns than your average Starbucks Karen from Madison or Milwaukee, particularly if they lean older than 30.
 
Counterpoint, something like 40 to 50 percent of WI residents own firearms.
The larger worry is that it leaves open the door to them determining that Kyle must have provoked soooomehow, making them more open to a hardline guilty vote juror convincing them to switch.
 
It should be illegal to doompost when the people in the courtroom are having way too much fun spinning this box on camera.

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I just hope if he does get dunked on, this thread doesn't go the way the 2020 election thread did with "Here's why Kyle going to prison isn't actually a bad thing/Hehe, it's a good thing I totally didn't support Kyle, or else I'd be real embarrassed right now."
Yeah this is sending an extremely dangerous precedent people aren't going to consider if the rest of the people chasing them on a threat they're just going to keep firing until they were out of ammunition all the people are dead .
And this is why something Augusto Pinochet Rings true liberal democracies cannot properly deal with communist
 

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Counterpoint, something like 40 to 50 percent of WI residents own firearms. That obviously includes women, btw.
Even the ones who don't, have frequently shot them. Gun culture is very real in Wisconsin, including with a sizable portion of liberals and women. Especially over the last year, you've seen a massive increase in the amount of women at gun ranges and stores, and not just because a dude they know took them out trying to look cool.
 
So for all those doomposting

If Kyle is guilty it'll likely go to appeals and enough people, INCLUDING lefties have seen this and figured out he's innocent that this entire situation will redpill the fuck out of a lot of people.

Keep in mind this is worst possible outcome and it's VERY likely more than 1 person on that jury isn't like "HMMMMM YES 7 PIXEL BIGFOOT PHOTO VERSUS HD VIDEO FOOTAGE AND A WEEK OF VERY CLEAR SELF DEFENSE TESTIMONY HES GUILTY" and is willing to talk people into sanity.
That's roughly my thought process as well, I just really don't want to put Kyle up as a sacrificial lamb for that. He's a kid, he doesn't deserve it.
 
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