US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[FlappyBat]

While I may agree in a more better even world, you know and I both know that the same standards don't apply to the republicans in our reality. If they would use liberal tactics, the press as well as all of the NGOs you can think of will go after them.

The same standards don't apply because Republicans let them not apply.

 

[CarlosDanger]

A lot of cope on bidden delivers
twitter agrees no mean tweets on twitter dot com matter more than stable country.
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All you have to do is look at their names or look at their profile pics to see they are all paid shills or bots from India. Kind of funny the ABC poll comes out and shows Biden still sinking even after the infrastructure bill passed, CNN comes out with this article confirming what we knew in regards of the war between Biden and Harris. Jen Psaki comes out in support of Harris, all the while this trend is artificially created out of thin air on a Sunday no less, a day where no one usually pays attention to the news. They have to be absolutely terrified to release this much damage control on a fucking Sunday.

 

[CarlosDanger]

 

[The Last Stand]

Yes.

Spoiler: Personal power level and rant

through family and extended family, i’ve spent a lot of time around rich Republican neocon types.

A lot of these people have trump derangement syndrome worse than your average lib. But they don’t own that they are the monster that created him.

If they hadn’t sold out blue collar Normie America during the 80s and 90s Donald Trump would have never become president in 1 million years.

what did they think was gonna happen after they used global trade agreements to destroy the lower middle class in this country and import people from Mexico So they could have cheap maids and gardeners?

I hope that Donald Trump is just the tip of the spear as far as a real populist uprising is concerned in this country. I hope his second term is more loud, more vulgar and disturbs their sleep even more than it already did. May every selfish out of touch rich neoconservative ree as they reap the whirlwind.

You know your own government is beyond slimy when Donald Trump looks good in comparison. He didn't "drain" the swamp; he made the swamp more public. All through their own backfired efforts to sabotage his one-term presidency.

 

[MysticLord]

sorry what? did you mean this as "these will be the biggest threats" or "they are" as in, they already have nukes

If they have nukes, those are their biggest threats.

 

[XYZpdq]

saw the remains of one in the wild

 

[LightDragonman1]

To think, people voted for Biden because with COVID-19 and everyone putting the blame on Trump's mishandling and his rather harsh demeanor, they saw him and the DNC as a return to normalcy. Now, a year later, and with COVID-19 mandates and the like still going on, I have to wonder if people are regretting their pick, especially in light of Biden's mess-ups that that the news media interestingly try to not cover (at least if my viewings of ABC World News Tonight, watched daily by my parents, are any indications).

 

[tehpope]

The US dollar is for all practical purposes backed by the US military. All of the dollars being held overseas by US rivals and neutrals as a hedge and a necessity to buy oil will be dumped when we suffer a major military defeat. Such a defeat is inevitable if the white rednecks who make up the most competent killers are purged from our military.

My guess is China will sink a US carrier group, and then intimidate Taiwan into submission or attempt their spin on a color revolution there, as we did in Hong Kong.

With drones it wouldn't take much - Iran could blow up ships in our naval bases in the Arabian peninsula, and strike ground forces until they surrender. Biden left thousands of American hostages in Afghanistan with who knows what sort of intelligence, imagine what Iran could do with tens of thousands of US military hostages.

A major military defeat would not just crash the US economy, it would also embolden succession and revolutionary movements in the USA, which would further distract the US military from overseas affairs. Without the US military protecting them, Taiwan, the various Sunni kingdoms in the Arabian pensinsula, Israel, and probably Egypt are either under siege, cut off from resupply by sea and maybe air, fighting insurgencies, or invaded. This would lead to refugee movements from Israel and the Sunni Kingdoms to Europe and the USA, which would further destabilize them.

Russia would probably invade Ukraine again without the USA, and maybe take a few chunks from neighboring non-NATO states, because you can't join NATO if you don't control all your territory. So there are more refugees.

In the short term, the USA is dealing with a global supply chain crisis due to the lockdowns and nationalist trade policies in China and other nations to which people like Mitt Romney sold our manufacturing base. We're also dealing with a national supply chain crisis because people are quitting rather than get vaccines, and because the lockdowns gave everyone time to figure out off-the-books income and the motivation to never work shit jobs again.

The federal government's refusal to govern well, and inability to delegate what it can't do to those who can (state and local governments), is causing a crisis of legitimacy that will have one of three outcomes:

1. States secede from the union and form their own unitary states.
2. States form a parallel inter-state government, probably a weak federation or confederation.
3. States simply ignoring the federal government to some degree and maybe refusing to pay federal taxes or stealing federal property or that owned by hated outsiders (Bill Gates, Amazon, Black Rock, Democrats in general).

This will of course be challenged by the feds and by blue state regions and the non-productive intermediary classes, but given that they are actively undermining their own authority and that of their law enforcement and military proxies, I don't see them doing much besides a few massacres and terror bombings before their supply chains are cut, they run out of fuel, and they are left to starve. It's not neccessary to actually put a bullet in the head of every malicious actor because they are totally dependent on the productive classes for survival; cutting them off and letting them starve to death is simple, easy, cheap, and morally appropriate.

I think that one or more states will form their own currencies as well, to evade hyperinflation of the US dollar and to deal with the feds cutting them off after they refuse to pay federal taxes. This will of course suck for people who depend on federal handouts like social security, veterans disability, and various pensions, but most normal people won't notice much besides their money suddenly being much more valuable and there being very little or no inflation.

All in all I think we'll come out fine, with a much reduced imperial footprint, and probably distant territories under new management (Japan gets our Pacific islands and becomes a naval empire again to contain China) or independent (probably Alaska). Life will suck in the near term of now to 5 years, but be much better 10 years from now.

/autistic effort-poast

The military is already weakend. We whimpered away from Afghanistan and left weapons for our enemies. The vax mandate is forcing good soliders out of the military and leaving loyalist and people who shouldn't even be in the army. Taiwan being taken by China would just confirm all this.

 

[Terrifik]

To think, people voted for Biden because with COVID-19 and everyone putting the blame on Trump's mishandling and his rather harsh demeanor, they saw him and the DNC as a return to normalcy. Now, a year later, and with COVID-19 mandates and the like still going on, I have to wonder if people are regretting their pick, especially in light of Biden's mess-ups that that the news media interestingly try to not cover (at least if my viewings of ABC World News Tonight, watched daily by my parents, are any indications).

no for the full answer.
he was been absolute bother on the norm leftest play ground of twitter.
joe or kammila normalcy fucking over the middle class which has not hit its peak yet.

 

[Mr. Bung]

Yes.

Spoiler: Personal power level and rant

through family and extended family, i’ve spent a lot of time around rich Republican neocon types.

A lot of these people have trump derangement syndrome worse than your average lib. But they don’t own that they are the monster that created him.

If they hadn’t sold out blue collar Normie America during the 80s and 90s Donald Trump would have never become president in 1 million years.

what did they think was gonna happen after they used global trade agreements to destroy the lower middle class in this country and import people from Mexico So they could have cheap maids and gardeners?

I hope that Donald Trump is just the tip of the spear as far as a real populist uprising is concerned in this country. I hope his second term is more loud, more vulgar and disturbs their sleep even more than it already did. May every selfish out of touch rich neoconservative ree as they reap the whirlwind.

I wouldn't mind if Trump won a second term in 2024. What I'm worried about is if he runs and enough TDS is drummed up that he causes a split vote and win for the Democrats when with any other guy it would be a clear win for the Republicans.

 

[MysticLord]

I think you're severely overestimating the threat of nukes to China, and simplifying the problem somewhat. The Chinese don't fear nukes; they fear encirclement.

Let's put the facts on the table:
- China has historically been and is currently food insecure. They rely on imports from the US, Australia and South America to feed themselves.
- China relies on imports of raw materials from the rest of the world to fuel their industry
- The PLA has not been tested in battle since the Korean War and perhaps generously, the little Vietnamese skirmish they had later.
- The PLAN has not been tested in battle at all. China has never been a strong naval power aside from a brief moment in the Ming dynasty.
- Nukes are a suicide option, because MAD still applies and don't think the Russians wouldn't join in on the inevitable retaliation when that happens.
- China itself is currently encircled by three regional powers: Russia, Japan and India, with indifferent minor neighbours. Their only reliable ally is North Korea (lol), and maybe Mongolia, which is practically a vassal in all but name anyway.
- The Chinese people are historically non-imperialistic. Sure, they'll enthusiastically support a forceful reunification with Taiwan (in theory), but any more and the CCP will have trouble justifying further war (barring war atrocities by the other side).

With that in mind, I think you can see the problem that the PRC is currently grappling with. True, they have the industrial base of world. True, they have an impressive on-paper strength in the PLA. But all that relies on a combination of bluffing the world that they're a stable nation who will contribute to prosperity, and that they're no threat to anyone, despite their Great Power status. The second the mask comes off is the second that their neighbours turn on them, for good or for ill. Nukes wouldn't be necessary if you can just starve the PRC to death with embargoes, and stoke dissent within the already historically unstable (and secessionist) Chinese regions.

EDIT: If this reminds you of a certain other power in the run-up to World War I... well, I can't say I like the historical similarities. Thankfully, unlike the German Empire, allies are in short supply for the CCP.

If they go to war over Taiwan, resupply by sea is over for them. They're surrounded by bottlenecks, and drones allow anyone to attack anyone's ocean shipping, so it's just over.

The real issue with China is land resupply, which the Taliban and by extension Pakistan controls if China doesn't want to depend only on Russia and Russia's client states. The US pulled out of Afghanistan as part of a deal with the Taliban for them to basically launder American weapons for use by Muslims in China. Unfortunately we are incompetent and we left thousand of hostages in Afghanistan for the Taliban, Pakistan, and whoever else can steal them, so we have no way to force the Taliban to actually do anything.

The PLA is irrelevant in naval warfare because they have no way to move those troops. They're probably irrelevant outside their borders because they have too many internal land transport bottlenecks. If India had mounted light infantry on motorbikes they might be able to evade the local Chinese garrisons long enough to blow up rails and isolate them.

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China can drone strike navies, of course, and drive a nuke laden sub drone or something in them and detonate them. Anyone with nukes can. But actually invading someone and moving people is impossible for them.

/edit

Everyone also hates China because their propaganda is autistically incompetent, they are partially responsible for the coronavirus and lockdown bullshit, and they are generally assholes to those dependent on them.

Recently I've read that China has been focusing more on internal markets, and given that Mexican labor is now cheaper (and closer) than Chinese labor there's really no reason but inertia and corruption to keep manufacturing there.

I wouldn't say that China is non-imperialistic. They're incredibly chauvinistic to those they can dominate, they're just not very good at dominating people not right next to them with anything but bribery, mercantile imperialism, or zerg rushing. Even then they very rarely accomplish much and these accomplishments are offset by the hatred of them their behavior causes.

North Korea wants to move away from China or at least be the client of another state that they can play off against China in the manner of Yugoslavia post-WW2. Or maybe reunion with South Korea, which would make Korea a regional power almost on par with Japan.

Encirclement would mean a return to Confucian China, and a loss of power or a pivot for the CCP. It wouldn't be the end of the world, though a lot of people would die. They can and probably should lay low for a while after the coronavirus stuff blows over to avoid everyone in the world collectively fucking them in their assholes for all the shit they've pulled.

My take is that everyone I know off the weird internet literally wants to nuke China. My boomer landlord, all the boomers I know on facebook and in my neighborhood, all the boomers in my family both left and right - all of them want China nuked. Gen-Xers and Millenials are more split or just don't care, and Zoomers are too focused on their gender transitions or opiate addictions to care about anything.

China has successfully pissed off fucking everyone, and they also ran interference to get the senile zombie in office with the hope that he would be better for them than Trump. But like everything else the uniparty does, everyone knows they're lying, and we're just waiting for the authorities to degrade so we can [fedpost]. China is literally facing annihilation in the manner that Japan did in WW2 after Pearl Harbor, and they are so fucking foolish that they think that their autistic propaganda can somehow persuade us not to do to them what they did to us and what we did to Japan and Germany.

Any encirclement of China by the USA where the USA isn't totally distracted by internal strife is just the prelude to slow starvation, disassembly, and probably applied biological weapons research. China has to dismember the USA by supporting the senile Biden regime because if they don't, we won't forget and we won't forgive. It might take us a few years, but don't think we've forgotten. It took us about 3 years to get to Japan after Pearl Harbor, but we did get there. We have practically unlimied resources, and we could do a WW2 style reindustrialization in about 4 years if we were totally focused on that and purged the non-productive classes.

 

[Terrifik]

I wouldn't mind if Trump won a second term in 2024. What I'm worried about is if he runs and enough TDS is drummed up that he causes a split vote and win for the Democrats when with any other guy it would be a clear win for the Republicans.

TDS is already proved on the one question he asked are you better 2016-2020 or 2021-2024.
2 years time we should get kamila if jill loses the civil war.

 

[silverstacks]

How many jabs does it take to be "fUlLy VaCcInAtEd"?
The world may never know...

 

[tigergrinder]

Yes.

Spoiler: Personal power level and rant

through family and extended family, i’ve spent a lot of time around rich Republican neocon types.

A lot of these people have trump derangement syndrome worse than your average lib. But they don’t own that they are the monster that created him.

If they hadn’t sold out blue collar Normie America during the 80s and 90s Donald Trump would have never become president in 1 million years.

what did they think was gonna happen after they used global trade agreements to destroy the lower middle class in this country and import people from Mexico So they could have cheap maids and gardeners?

I hope that Donald Trump is just the tip of the spear as far as a real populist uprising is concerned in this country. I hope his second term is more loud, more vulgar and disturbs their sleep even more than it already did. May every selfish out of touch rich neoconservative ree as they reap the whirlwind.

Spoiler

I've spent time around family members and family friends who are total lefties, but grew up in conservative homes. It feels very much like being around kids who are smoking cigarettes while their parents aren't looking. Like they still think they're rebellious and cool, despite living in fucking expensive neighborhoods or teaching in universities. They also have TDS like your Republican types, but from what I've seen, it's usually one guy who brings him up and then they ALL go off. He really just pissed them all off, didn't he?

 

[elite_club]

To think, people voted for Biden because with COVID-19 and everyone putting the blame on Trump's mishandling and his rather harsh demeanor, they saw him and the DNC as a return to normalcy. Now, a year later, and with COVID-19 mandates and the like still going on, I have to wonder if people are regretting their pick, especially in light of Biden's mess-ups that that the news media interestingly try to not cover (at least if my viewings of ABC World News Tonight, watched daily by my parents, are any indications).

Even if they voted just to not hear about Trump anymore, they didn't even get that. Every day is still "Trump this" or "Trump that," while it kills the viewership of basically every media organization who won't drop it because their other programming is just as shitty, and not even the leftoids who obsess over TRUMP and whatever netflix series they can binge alone in their apartment will watch it. Administration uses Trump as its reason every chance it gets to deflect any responsibility for things that happen under their watch, every leftist politician says their opponent is like Trump, etc.

They couldn't even give the voters the easiest promise to deliver on, because Trump lives rent free in their heads.

 

[Terrifik]

How many jabs does it take to be "fUlLy VaCcInAtEd"?
The world may never know...

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[wopirish]

With India being on the border, The chinese army really hasn't even had shooting skirmishes in decades. The Indian army has had near constant combat with Pakistani military units. That kind of experience is something that cannot be understated in a shooting war. Especially in areas where two dudes with a tow and M2 can block off a road for days.

As for the boosters, they will always change what it means to be fully vaccinated which means that if you are behind in you retard juice schedule you will never catch up.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

I think you're severely overestimating the threat of nukes to China, and simplifying the problem somewhat. The Chinese don't fear nukes; they fear encirclement.

Let's put the facts on the table:
- China has historically been and is currently food insecure. They rely on imports from the US, Australia and South America to feed themselves.
- China relies on imports of raw materials from the rest of the world to fuel their industry
- The PLA has not been tested in battle since the Korean War and perhaps generously, the little Vietnamese skirmish they had later.
- The PLAN has not been tested in battle at all. China has never been a strong naval power aside from a brief moment in the Ming dynasty.
- Nukes are a suicide option, because MAD still applies and don't think the Russians wouldn't join in on the inevitable retaliation when that happens.
- China itself is currently encircled by three regional powers: Russia, Japan and India, with indifferent minor neighbours. Their only reliable ally is North Korea (lol), and maybe Mongolia, which is practically a vassal in all but name anyway.
- The Chinese people are historically non-imperialistic. Sure, they'll enthusiastically support a forceful reunification with Taiwan (in theory), but any more and the CCP will have trouble justifying further war (barring war atrocities by the other side).

With that in mind, I think you can see the problem that the PRC is currently grappling with. True, they have the industrial base of world. True, they have an impressive on-paper strength in the PLA. But all that relies on a combination of bluffing the world that they're a stable nation who will contribute to prosperity, and that they're no threat to anyone, despite their Great Power status. The second the mask comes off is the second that their neighbours turn on them, for good or for ill. Nukes wouldn't be necessary if you can just starve the PRC to death with embargoes, and stoke dissent within the already historically unstable (and secessionist) Chinese regions.

EDIT: If this reminds you of a certain other power in the run-up to World War I... well, I can't say I like the historical similarities. Thankfully, unlike the German Empire, allies are in short supply for the CCP.

The only war China will be entering is one with India over the water supply's along their shared borders.

As for the collapse of the USD discussed earlier in the thread; being the pre-eminent military power in the world is a great way to back a fledgling fiat currency, not so much the case when that currency is reaching its death spiral. Eventually it becomes evident to all parties involved that the currency is being debased, the last parties to realize this are typically the general public(despite being informed of it numerous times, they simply can't comprehend the idea until it smacks them in the face). Once its sunk in for the average citizen that the dollar he has today will be worth less tomorrow, and I mean really sunk in not "Oh man inflation sucks this cheeseburger costs more this year than last", once its sunk in the race is on. The nature of fiat currencies necessitate the printing of new bills, and as money velocity increases overtime the effects become more and more apparent; at first its like a bowling ball rolling down a very small slope, slow and steady, and as time passes that slope gets a little steeper, gradually the ball starts picking up some speed but no one really notices because relative to 5 minutes ago its not that much of a difference, then all of the sudden the slope drop's precipitously and the ball is barreling towards a ramp off into infinity.

Currency collapse happens very slowly, and then all of the sudden.

Regarding the fact that the USD is the major exchange medium by which oil is traded, and that some how that provides it with some sort of legitimacy or stability. nigga lmao.

Pictured below is a specially produced gold disk/coin made for the sole purpose of purchasing oil from the Saudi's. Even before our dollar was completely transitioned off of a metals standard the Saudi's wouldn't accept them as payment for oil. Now the saudi's have since reversed their position on this issue, but I have no doubts in my mind that they would have no issue accepting gold as payment from a foreign nation again. Central banks, and nations have begun to stock pile gold again, inflation is at record highs, the money supply is increasing at a break neck pace, its been recently revealed that the average citizen has more money in their bank account than ever before, and the supply chain crisis is an obvious symptom of bad money. I'm not saying the USD is going to hyperinflate tomorrow, or next month, or even next year, but all the signs are there to indicate its on its way out the door. Bidens horrible mandates and other policies will only serve to accelerate this process.

 

[SBG]

Yeah, I mean, I enjoy laughing at Cackling Kamala as much as anybody but wtf does anybody expect her to _actually_ do?

After Biden said she was in charge of immigration people seemed to expect she'd come out with something, when the VP position doesn't have the power to really do anything on it. Seems like one of the seediest thing Biden did to pretty much fuck over Kamala politically since it placed all blame for immigration on her while pretending he himself had responsibility on the issue anymore. He instead got to just run around eating ice cream and telling people to get vaccinated.

Makes me sympathize a bit with her and her team in how they got annoyed with how the White House came to Pete Buttigieg's defense, since it doesn't seem as though they've done anything like that for Kamala. Because I see it mostly as Biden and the Obama leftovers wanting to fuck over the upstart that might've saw herself as a successor in the future.

 

[Kane Lives]

After Biden said she was in charge of immigration people seemed to expect she'd come out with something, when the VP position doesn't have the power to really do anything on it. Seems like one of the seediest thing Biden did to pretty much fuck over Kamala politically since it placed all blame for immigration on her while pretending he himself had responsibility on the issue anymore. He instead got to just run around eating ice cream and telling people to get vaccinated.

Makes me sympathize a bit with her and her team in how they got annoyed with how the White House came to Pete Buttigieg's defense, since it doesn't seem as though they've done anything like that for Kamala. Because I see it mostly as Biden and the Obama leftovers wanting to fuck over the upstart that might've saw herself as a successor in the future.

I hope Kamala has a bitch moment and releases a tell-all out of spite to fuck over her """benefactors""".