Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Drain Todger]

Spoiler: Coof variant? Advice needed

Uhh so i caught something... God knows what it is tbh. It feels like half assed flu/cold with weak headache, weak sore throat, weak sniffle and weak fever (36.9) and sudden feelings of tiredness that lasts for about 30 minutes.

But this illness fucking persistent and doesn't go away....

I have been taking zinc 15mg, vit d 4k, vit c, some antiviral drug thats otc (inosinum pranobexum) and NAC 600mg.

I d not bother you fellow kiwis, but this thing hasn't go away for the last 7 days without getting worse or better.

Does it sound like some other coof variant? I don't want to get tested cuz fuck quarantine and giving gov even more power to scare my fellow citizen 20 000 new cases per 36mln country! Oh oh lets fearmonger more).

My complete distrust towards medical staff makes me go full r3tard and seek advice on a lolcow forum. Also they d forcefully send me to get tested and fuck that stick in my nose, had it 3 times and 3 times ended with nose bleed.

Anyone chip in what else to do? Why is it so weak assed flu, yet so fucking annoying and persistent?
Im a dirty unvaxed and had covid last year (or the test said so, but had no smell so could be true)

@Drain Todger or anyone else who gives a fuck.

I've got a weird persistent cold too, lol. I've been taking supplements.

The coof is "high fever, dry cough, body aches, loss of smell". More lower respiratory than upper respiratory.

 

[Billy Beer]

Wales (That sheep shagging country attached to England) have increased restrictions of the covid vaxport. Cinemas, Concert halls and theatres have been added to the list, on top of all major venues (sports and the likes)

Covid pass Wales: Pubs' fear as law extended to cinemas

Covid passes are required to legally enter cinemas, theatres and concert halls from Monday.

www.bbc.co.uk

They're trying to push the pet angle again. What's better than 2 jabs and boosters every six months? Having to jab your pets as well. Mega money!!

Covid: First UK case in pet dog confirmed by top vet

All available evidence suggests it caught the virus from its owner, experts say.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Remind me why they can't just create a vaccine the old fashioned way, of injecting people with a weakened version of COVID to help the immune system instead of some questionable mRNA vaccine where any talk of side effects or adverse reactions is suppressed?

You can, just like any other cold or flu. It just doesn't work for very long because those virus families have the distinction of being A) not terribly lethal, B) spread very quickly, and C) mutate to dodge the immune system's memory within weeks or months.

February shares etymology with "fever" for a reason. People get sniffly during the fall and winter. Eradicating the common cold is impossible without a level of medical technology we in 2022 would consider magic. Too bad the medical establishment got the ego before they got the skills.

 

[Bagronkleton]

When did they get the jabs? I am wondering how some of the symptoms happen immediately in people, while in others the problems are only starting to appear weeks, if not months away.

It might that Red Deer is finally starting, it could be that the jab side effects are widely distributed in terms of effect and timescale depending on how much damage the spike protein does bouncing around inside the body until it can be cleared away.

My team and coworkers all got their shots generally around the beginning of this last summer when the gaslight campaign really ramped up the weird incentives like free donuts, coffee, extra one-time extra bonus hours on paycheck, shit like that. Can't really say when though, not my place to ask nor did I want to know.*

As for my friend, he got the vid twice before the getting jabbed around... I want to say June or July. Pretty similar to the coworkers situation. He's never really taken care of himself consistently, his idea of weight control is to lose a bunch and then gorge on steak until he glistens with meat sweats.

With the number of both athletes having bum tickers going pop and various randos being recorded collapsing globally shortly after getting jabbed all happening within a six to nine month range is very, very fucking disturbing. Moreso when shit like heart defects being blamed on "climate change" of all things.

*Edit: this is purely observational and not to imply correlation means causation, of course. Could very well simply mean our nonjabbed immune systems are very robustly reinforced against rna bugs for the time being after fighting off the chicom coof whereas the jabbed immune system is so specifically tuned to the spike protein that everything causes a high alert panic response. But who knows, the lack of taking a holistic view to both situations of natural AND jabbed to see what stacks better with individual health needs instead of VERSUS.

 

[Derka Derka]

Remind me why they can't just create a vaccine the old fashioned way, of injecting people with a weakened version of COVID to help the immune system instead of some questionable mRNA vaccine where any talk of side effects or adverse reactions is suppressed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valneva_COVID-19_vaccine

Valneva COVID-19 vaccine, also known as the VLA2001 (Original Wuhan variant based) and VLA2101 (other non-disclosed variant based), is a COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by French biotechnology company Valneva SE in collaboration with American company Dynavax Technologies.

It is a whole-virus inactivated vaccine, grown in culture using the Vero cell line and inactivated with BPL. It also contains two adjuvants, alum and CpG 1018. It uses the same manufacturing technology as Valneva’s Ixiaro vaccine for Japanese encephalitis.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Additional anecdote: A friend of mine, late twenties, in decent shape* contracted the coof roughly a year ago, tested positive, smell/taste temporarily gone and everything but was otherwise back to normal after a week or so. Aside from the telltale symptoms it was, according to him, pretty much a mild flu. I had dinner with him just after his positive test, in a semi-poorly ventilated, older house and was in close proximity for 1.5-2 hours and did not develop any symptoms.
A month or two later he got one dose of Pfizer, only one dose for two reasons, first because that was all he needed to get the good boy and secondly because he felt like complete shit, nearly the worst ( this is important, we'll get to why when I explain the * ) he had ever felt for 5-8 days after the shot and will not be getting any further doses/boosters**.

*in decent shape now, had multiple heart surgeries when he was in his mid teens - yes, someone who spent weeks at a time in the hospital recovering from heart surgery felt comparably bad or even worse from the clot shot.

**if he gets the chance, since I was just informed he was admitted to the emergency room yesterday for persistent shortness of breath, a weird rash and a consistent heartrate of 130-145

 

[Protistology]

Covid here in house, symptoms from Friday … partner very rough at moment - not vaxxed and Never will be… two teens fine - not vaxxed never will be- I got the jab as mandatory for my work and thought back then best thing to do…….. I’ve no symptoms yet… we are in a country with one of the highest vaccination rates (In my area adults vaxxed 98%!). The place is hopping with Covid 19. Partner downstairs now has been pretty delirious for past two nights complaining of pains and feeling of ‘swollen head’. This far it is a very bad flu for him - he is fit gym going health eating but has had some minor immune disorders in past but I gotta say in some ways I am almost jealous that he naturally got it - is naturally fighting it - whereas I am having palpitations thinking ok I am jabbed - and how that feels even more worrying than if I wasn’t - and that while he will have natural immunity and hopefully so will the teens this feels like I am the one who is fucked in the long term…. Sorry to PL but think it is ok in this thread? Also on the bright side for him he will be able to go into pubs and cafes here with the recovered from covid pass….. what a joke it all is tbh and I feel proper duped.

Remind me why they can't just create a vaccine the old fashioned way, of injecting people with a weakened version of COVID to help the immune system instead of some questionable mRNA vaccine where any talk of side effects or adverse reactions is suppressed?

If you have to ask then you're not ready to know yet.

 

[UVB-76]

Why is portugal so highly vaxxed? Did they ban non-jabbies from buying food, or something?

They're probably fucking with the "eligible" numbers. I remember two weeks ago they were saying Portugal was 85% jabbed. The closer it gets to 100% the slower the number climbs because there's less unjabbed available to take it, there's no way 13% of the population (lol) all got off their ass and got jabbed in such a narrow time window. Plus they're now distributing the third dose among the elderly.
Just recently the MSM also reported on Ireland's cases rising despite the high jabbing rate. They blamed it on travel to Britain, which is only 67% poked. I was like "hold on, they were 80-something percent jabbed a few weeks ago". Because they approved the vaccination for children, the percentage dropped.

 

[borsabil]

This is a lie

40-49, 3.8 (not 5) times more likely to end up in hospital if unvaccinated except...

The jabbed in this age range are 2.25 more likely to actually catch Covid.

Which means that the non jabbed are 1.6 times more likely to "end up in hospital".

Notice how they don't mention people in their 60's, 70's and above, you know the folks who are actually at risk of dying.

The 60-69 unvaccinated are 3 times more likely to be hospitalised but are 2.2 times less likely to catch the virus so overall only 1.3 times more likely to end up in hospital on an individual basis.

Assuming of course that the UK isn't swabbing every unvaxxed person walking into Emergency with a bad back or a kidney stone and counting them as 'severe Covid' when they throw a positive swab, and we all know that's exactly what they're doing.

Using the UK government's own data it's clear that the vaccines are completely fucking useless at protecting the vulnerable population from Covid. But politicians assume that the majority of the population are retarded and won't bother doing the simple maths to expose their bullshit, and they're right about that.

 

[borsabil]

Satanic

 

[Mr Bunny]

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Satanic

Ahh yes, the return to "normalcy".

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

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This is a lie

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40-49, 3.8 (not 5) times more likely to end up in hospital if unvaccinated except...

The jabbed in this age range are 2.25 more likely to actually catch Covid.

Which means that the non jabbed are 1.6 times more likely to "end up in hospital".

Notice how they don't mention people in their 60's, 70's and above, you know the folks who are actually at risk of dying.

The 60-69 unvaccinated are 3 times more likely to be hospitalised but are 2.2 times less likely to catch the virus so overall only 1.3 times more likely to end up in hospital on an individual basis.

Assuming of course that the UK isn't swabbing every unvaxxed person walking into Emergency with a bad back or a kidney stone and counting them as 'severe Covid' when they throw a positive swab, and we all know that's exactly what they're doing.

Using the UK government's own data it's clear that the vaccines are completely fucking useless at protecting the vulnerable population from Covid. But politicians assume that the majority of the population are exceptional and won't bother doing the simple maths to expose their bullshit, and they're right about that.

What happens when the vaccines start to backfire? – Rintrah

Some guy explain it why they do the vax passes and its basically filter that forces the healthy to take it so they can pad their numbers untill they can't . And why the numbers are the way they are. According to him if the mortality rates don't climb fast enough this whole shitshow will get real in a year . Probably this winter will make it obvious to anyone with a brain that vaccines don't work and make shit worse but next will the shoah sort of speak. If you are jabbed and want to live recommendation is yo move to less jabbed area and pray .

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Update:
I wish I could say I was completely fine, but that would be a lie.
I got insomnia last night, which in part was psychological: I think after reading about all this people who died in their sleep I was simply afraid to die. But I slept some hours. Now in the morning, I felt weakness overcoming me for 10 minutes: it reminded me of symptoms of low sugar or caffeine withdrawal. I felt cold sweat and nausea. but it went away after 10 minutes rest. No fever. I think I will skip fluvoxamine from now on.

 

[Kaktus Kompot]

Seeing all these graphs and statistics kinda makes me wonder how on Earth are Africans with their low wealth and subpar medicine doing so well? It's definitely not the low population density, so could this really be all about the sunpower and that sweet vitamin D? Or is there something else I don't know about? If anyone on the farms knows, I'd be interested in hearing it.

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To add to my previous post, I looked up vax rates by country and it seems that along with lowest corona deaths, Africa overall also has the lowest vax rates in the world. Either I'm misunderstanding something, or someone's not being honest with us.

 

[borsabil]

What happens when the vaccines start to backfire? – Rintrah

Some guy explain it why they do the vax passes and its basically filter that forces the healthy to take it so they can pad their numbers untill they can't . And why the numbers are the way they are. According to him if the mortality rates don't climb fast enough this whole shitshow will get real in a year . Probably this winter will make it obvious to anyone with a brain that vaccines don't work and make shit worse but next will the shoah sort of speak. If you are jabbed and want to live recommendation is yo move to less jabbed area and pray .

Having a large pool of people with broad natural immunity is the only thing that's stopped the virus from exploding in countries that have rolled out the vaccines.

In naïve populations, like Australia and New Zealand, who have never experienced a large outbreak, the coming months are going to be....interesting.

The blogger is 100% correct IMO. The data is being gamed, with a complicit media determined not to ask obvious questions this is easy enough to do.

Why are they vaccinating young adults and children who are at ZERO risk from Covid? To protect the elderly is the official line. Yes kids won't benefit from being vaccinated but their grandparents will.
Except the same people are also saying that herd immunity is impossible because the vaccines are leaky and that Covid is endemic. So obviously the official reason is a lie.
So what's the real reason?
They want to eliminate the control group and damn the consequences.

We need more data in regards to how the vaccinated are responding when challenged by the virus.
The UK data strongly suggests OAS is occurring. If it is we're diabolically fucked.
A highly mutagenic virus that can completely avoid the narrow immunity conferred by the vaccines guarantees a horrendous outcome.

Huge outbreaks in Europe and in some countries mortality rates higher than the first and second wave outbreaks with no vaccines.
Solution? Moar vaccine.

The pandemic was over in April. It was done. Infection rates were crashing with no mass vaccinations.
Covid has a R0 of 3, a third of the population acquiring natural immunity guaranteed it would become a nuisance cold at worst.
But boomer politicians and greedy pharma companies couldn't leave well enough alone. They knew better and here we are.

Purebloods need to keep a low profile over the coming months and years. We will be scapegoated. Politicians will never ever admit to their own fuck ups, that would be the end of them.
The vaccinated with half a brain need to think long and hard about how to protect themselves.
Consider a regime of prophylactic Ivermectin, high dose Vitamin D, Zinc and anti-histamines.

In the longer term everyone needs to prep as much they can.
Best case they give up on jabbing people with 'vaccines' against a virus that no longer exists.
Unfortunately the chances of that happening are between zero and fuck all.
Worst case the supply chain and inflation issues we're facing now transform form a nuisance into food and fuel scarcity.
GTFO of cities if you can. You don't want to be living in a metropolis with empty supermarkets and petrol stations.

 

[Mr Bunny]

To add to my previous post, I looked up vax rates by country and it seems that along with lowest corona deaths, Africa overall also has the lowest vax rates in the world. Either I'm misunderstanding something, or someone's not being honest with us.

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The most vulnerable age group is the 80+, how many 80+ Africans are there? It seems at a glance it's more of a matter that the virus can't kill a population that doesn't exist in that environment.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

What happens when the vaccines start to backfire? – Rintrah

Some guy explain it why they do the vax passes and its basically filter that forces the healthy to take it so they can pad their numbers untill they can't . And why the numbers are the way they are. According to him if the mortality rates don't climb fast enough this whole shitshow will get real in a year . Probably this winter will make it obvious to anyone with a brain that vaccines don't work and make shit worse but next will the shoah sort of speak. If you are jabbed and want to live recommendation is yo move to less jabbed area and pray .

There's more on the table from what I read on that article.

Why are COVID Cases Spiking? Again…

Watching the news, one sees constant stories about COVID numbers rising yet again now, almost two years into this pandemic, with COVID hospitalizations in some states higher than they have ever been except for the spike last December. In my...

www.americanthinker.com

November 15, 2021

Why are COVID Cases Spiking? Again…​

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

Watching the news, one sees constant stories about COVID numbers rising, yet again, now almost two years into this pandemic, with COVID hospitalizations in some states higher than they have ever been except for the spike last December. In my state of Colorado, the test positivity rate is almost 10 percent, with 1 in 48 infected and if the current trend continues, this will be the worst COVID spike the state has seen.
On the surface, that doesn’t make sense, since nearly 80 percent of eligible Coloradans have received at least one vaccine dose, suggesting the vaccines are not working as well as they should or as advertised, or that vaccine immunity is waning, hence the push for booster injections.

Scarier still is that Colorado officials reinstated “crisis standards of care” for hospital staffing, allowing hospitals and other facilities to stretch limited personnel and use volunteers, including National Guard and family members, to help care for hospitalized patients. Colorado hospitals are already turning away patients based on an executive order by Gov. Jared Polis.
Neighboring New Mexico is in the same boat, also instituting “crisis standards of care.” Their case counts have climbed 19 percent over the past two weeks.
ICU beds are in desperately short supply, with fewer than 100 beds currently available in Colorado as reported by the Denver Post. Are we headed to a situation where patients will be treated in hallways or sent away from overcrowded hospitals to fend for themselves? COVID made its debut in America in March 2020, now 20 months later, when we should be reaching herd immunity, the situation as dire as it was in the beginning.

With complicated situations, explanations are also complex and multi-factorial. While I don’t have a simple answer, here are some of the factors playing into this current crisis.
How much current hospital care is non-COVID related? Remember that for the past two years, routine care and elective surgery were deferred over fears of catching COVID or the constantly changing rules regarding testing, masks, and vaccines, leading some to wait things out until life returned to normal.
Cancer screenings were deferred with some of those individuals now having cancer and needing treatment. Many suffered with decrepit joints, now finally having them replaced. Those with hernias, gradually enlarging, are now getting them repaired.

Most insurance plan deductibles reset at the end of the year. Those who have already met their deductible are eager to have their elective procedures before Jan. 1, so the cost is covered under their paid deductible, rather than next year when they have a new deductible to meet.

Some people, anticipating an end-of-year surge in surgery demand due to increasing COVID cases, are trying to get in ahead of the wave to avoid having their procedures deferred once again. While simple procedures are done as an outpatient, more complex surgery, including heart surgery, requires hospitalization, and perhaps a few days in the overcrowded ICU.
The ICU isn’t just for sick COVID patients, it serves a wide patient population and due to the cost of running and staffing an ICU, it needs to be relatively full to justify staff, equipment, and other services. Similarly, airlines prefer their planes to fly with few empty seats, from a business perspective, since the fixed costs of both air travel and hospital care are huge. Hospitals are businesses, too. and need revenues to cover their costs.

The news articles discussing ICU beds don’t mention whether this shortage represents physical beds or the ability to staff these beds, an important distinction. If a 40-bed ICU only has staff to safely care for 20 patients, and has a census of 19, they are reported to be full, with only one available bed, ignoring the fact that half of beds that cannot be used due to insufficient staff.
This latter nuance is never reported, only that ICUs are bursting at the seams. Instead the news reports, “95 percent of ICU beds filled” without clarifying whether these are physical beds or staffed beds.
If a restaurant only has staff to serve half its tables or is running at reduced capacity due to social distancing requirements, they may be “fully booked,” but when you dine there, you might see many empty tables.

Hospital staffing may be an issue. More than 100 million Americans are out of the workforce and this includes health care workers. Some are burnt out after a hellacious two years on the COVID front lines. Others have reprioritized their lives and activities, choosing to work remotely or in a less stressful environment. Still others are resisting vaccine mandates for health care workers, many of whom had already caught COVID in their jobs and thus, had natural immunity.

For some states, seasonality plays a role. As the weather turns cooler, Coloradans and residents of other northern states are heading indoors, into closer proximity to each other, unlike in the summer which is about hiking in the mountains or strolling on a golf course. This will increase COVID numbers in Colorado and explain the drop in cases in Florida, for example, under the opposite effect of more venturing outside now due to more tolerable temperatures compared to the sweltering Florida summer when many stay indoors.
This also might explain why Vermont, one of the most vaccinated states in the country, serving as a model for its COVID response, is experiencing its worst surge yet. It is convenient to blame the unvaccinated, but as this group shrinks, and includes many with natural immunity, that argument becomes more tenuous.

Waning vaccine immunity is now being acknowledged, suggesting that previous infection with natural immunity may be the best path to herd immunity short of endless booster shots. The CDC reluctantly admitted this inconvenient fact that it has no documentation of an unvaccinated COVID recovered person spreading COVID. Vaccines now appear to offer temporary and limited protection, unlike what were told a year ago.

Meanwhile in New Zealand, they flatten the curve....in the wrong axis.

New Zealand flattened the curve on the wrong axis…

Jacinda and her lockdown has failed in dramatic fashion Jacinda Ardern opens the Great Reset Conference — Earlier Today Jacinda gives Covid update &#…

citizenfreepress.com

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Cannabis use disorder may be linked to growing number of heart attacks in younger adults

At a time of increasing legalization of marijuana, a growing number of people under 50 diagnosed with cannabis use disorder were later hospitalized for a heart attack, new research has found.

medicalxpress.com

In my google recommended articles lol. Though the numbers they are talking about are from 2018 latest its still part of the narrative push by the media heart attacks in young people are totally normal you guys because we all know plebs don't read beyond the headlines.

 

[Shinobi_1880]

Ya so Ireland we have serious high vaxx uptake serious high covid rate - in my house now as posted earlier - this article jumps out at me - 40% unvaccinated meaning 60% are vaccinated. Am I reading that wrong or is that grim. Now they saying we should self fund four antigen tests a week at like 8 euro a pop. Right https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-11-november-5598710-Nov2021/

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

What happens when the vaccines start to backfire? – Rintrah

Some guy explain it why they do the vax passes and its basically filter that forces the healthy to take it so they can pad their numbers untill they can't . And why the numbers are the way they are. According to him if the mortality rates don't climb fast enough this whole shitshow will get real in a year . Probably this winter will make it obvious to anyone with a brain that vaccines don't work and make shit worse but next will the shoah sort of speak. If you are jabbed and want to live recommendation is yo move to less jabbed area and pray .

"This is now backfiring. Nature is refusing to bend to our will and the result of this failed experiment will be mass death."

Ah yes, the quintessential bluntness that can only come from the ethnically Dutch.