Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

Online militias, lol. Joe is such a fucking clown. He's just another incredibly privileged white man, and even more so now that he pretends to be female, cos he'd never have received a $400,000+ advance from Substack if he wasn't a troon. When it comes to being "rich", these retards always draw the line at "people with more money than me", haha.
 
It's just a function of his narcissism. He likes to believe he's important and controversial enough that there are gangs out to hunt him down and kill him, because acknowledging the reality of his own mediocrity is much more frightening. Joe would much prefer if there were groups of vicious terves out with their pitchforks to string him up from a lamppost - because that would mean that as a brave kweer iconoclast, his "ideas" (to use the term loosely) were of enough import to stir people into a frenzy and persecute him like some kind of fat, crossdressing Gallileo.

The reality of his own reflection is what truly scares him, and it's why he keeps shrieking and flinging his shit takes into the void as a distraction. He knows he's a pudgy, comically ugly, middle-aged man in unconvincing drag, who holds a position through nothing more than his possession of a dick and a novelty accent, whose only source of human connection is a woman with the soul of a beaten dog (because that's the only kind who could be around him for more than 5 minutes), and who is nothing more than a hysterical sideshow to everyone else.

He knows what he is. He spends all day on Twitter squealing impotently at terves so he doesn't have to think about it.
Would anyone have ever heard of him if he didn't have this vaudeville villain act?

I mean, UK academe is full of privileged, slightly effeminate , privately educated young men with lectureships in Victorian Studies and such like. No-one knows who they are. No-one cares. Lavery is not well known as a 'public intellectual', as he rather hilariously states. He has a degree of notoriety because he is a hyperactive provocateur on social media, where he is openly boastful about his sexual exploits. No-one cares or knows about anything else he does. I suspect that deep down, he knows he is a rather bad mediocrity who somehow managed to get into Oxford. I will read his book, from a public library, and make my mind up about his writing ability, but judging from what I've seen so far,, I'm not expecting to stand corrected.
 
I think it got lost amongst Joe shitting the twitter bed but Mallory has a newsletter from Nov. 08 that's kind of sad and revealing. I can't figure out archiving to save my life but it's titled "The Magic Words are Squeamish Ossifrage."

Some things that jumped out at me:



"A refusal to live life on life's terms" ....now, what does that sound like? Mallory, as per usual, comes so close and yet so far to getting it.

It's sad to watch her ricochet from "Fuck my birth family! I'm THRILLED I never have to speak to them again! Group sex!" to admitting that she's fixated on them and the estrangement.
Looks like Mallory is in real serious pain. I can not fathom the level of self destruction that trooning out has inflicted upon her. I kinda wonder if that blog post is some sort of cry for help. It sure looks that way to me.
I honestly don't think she will ever be able to face the truth. I absolutely believe she will kill herself before she'd admit to the world that she allowed herself to become the kind of woman she hates: the kind who contorts herself to keep a man happy and who stands by him no matter how many times he cheats. The kind of woman who lets a man tell her what to think and who hides her own intelligence because it bruises his ego. She's basically just a Stepford wife but with a beard and a bald spot.
I think she will end up offing herself sooner or later too. I do not think she can recover from such level of the irreversable damage she did to herself. And no, I don't think she will become self-aware that she is a woman with a beaten wife syndrome. The day she becomes self-aware of that is the day she will commit suicide becomes that truth will be unbeareable to her.
She's a great writer. This made me feel very sad for her.
She is indeed. I wonder if that's why Joe is so envious of her talent that he would do anything to destroy it.
as a bay area rich girl with long term family estrangement myself I would like to powerlevel and state for the record that I have no plans on ever cutting off my tits
Do your family knows that you post on Kiwifarms ? You might be in trouble if they found out.
 
I’m late to the party but would like to state for the record that anyone who doesn’t believe in the innocence of children either has never been around small children or is an abuser. Either answer could fit Joe.

I used to roll my eyes at this quote, until I actually was around small children as a grown adult and realized it was 100% true.

“Children are human beings to whom respect is due, superior to us by reason of their innocence and of the greater possibilities of their future.” - Maria Montessori.

I think Joe just gets off on the idea of defiling and ruining people, girlfriends, society, kids, whatever…He’s a real sick fuck.
 
The only ones who believe that children are innocent are people who aren't very familiar with children or people who are overly familiar with children.
Most children I've known were curious, not perverted degenerates. They usually discover what "he's a boy and she's a girl" means quite fast, but it lacks the inherently sexual element for the time being.
 
I think it got lost amongst Joe shitting the twitter bed but Mallory has a newsletter from Nov. 08 that's kind of sad and revealing. I can't figure out archiving to save my life but it's titled "The Magic Words are Squeamish Ossifrage."

Some things that jumped out at me:



"A refusal to live life on life's terms" ....now, what does that sound like? Mallory, as per usual, comes so close and yet so far to getting it.

It's sad to watch her ricochet from "Fuck my birth family! I'm THRILLED I never have to speak to them again! Group sex!" to admitting that she's fixated on them and the estrangement.
You can feel the encroaching sense of terror taking over her life. The big investigative report coming out about her father was like a bucket of ice water. No matter how hard Joe tries to spin it, it crushed her. Her fantasy crusader bubble destroyed.

Holding on to the belief her father was some pedo enabling Satan helped her hold firm to hating and rejecting her entire family. I can only imagine how Joe cheerleadered the drama “fuck your dad” and encouraging every action that severed her bonds with her family and luxuriating in all the drama swirling around it.

Now it’s all over. Even the investigative witch hunters they backed found nothing. She looks across the room to the thrice married 40 year old man in a see-through dress playing with his moobs while typing on Twitter about how the innocence of children is just a myth. For a brief second she thinks about who the real abusive predator is in her life. Then suddenly Joe jumps up and tells her to go get the ball gag and tell Lilly to put on something sexy af.

I’m sure Thanksgiving and Christmas with Joe and his vinegar will be lovely.
 
When the pedos and pedo-defenders talk about how kids aren't innocent, if you ask for details about what they mean, they'll tell you things like "well, when I was a kid I had secret dirty thoughts that I felt very ashamed of but that people wouldn't think of as coming from an innocent kid."

And they totally in that moment reveal not only that they don't know what childhood innocence really means, and that they're pedos.

A kid having some weird off-the-wall sexual thoughts is being innocent. They're thinking about how body parts work together and what feels good to them. If a full-grown adult with normal mental development is thinking dirty thoughts and tells you about them and says they'd like to try something out, you might give that a spin. But kids, no matter what they think about privately, don't deserve to have their childhood invaded by an adult who wants to use their development as a way to vampirically gain back a little of their lost youth. This doesn't just go for the adults who actively molest kids, it goes for the neoqweers who want to give "sex ed lessons" and shock kids by telling them about fetishes and telling them all their most pervy thoughts are totally fine to enact.

There's a lot of cultural baggage wrapped up in the idea that childhood shame is the root of all problems. Goes back to Freud. But it was never true, and Freud was a fucking perv too who excused the all-too-common phenomenon of father-daughter incest as being something the daughter wanted and asked for. Some childhood shame is good for kids, and it's fine for kids to have some proto-sexual thoughts without talking to too-eager adults about a fucking word of it.
 
Per Instagram, Nicole Cliffe just had her annual girls weekend trip to a fancy farm in Tennessee. No pics of the attendees but I’m assuming Mallory wasn’t invited. Nicole is definitely a narcissist, but I think she was the better narc for Mallory to attach herself to. From that co-dependent friendship she got a writing career. With Joe she torpedoed it.
 
This reminds me of a case study I once read of a woman with anorexia. She said that "going against the laws of nature" made her "feel powerful".
That's really interesting. One way of dealing with anger and humiliation, is to turn it inwards and punish your body. - with eating disorders, drink, drugs. Mal grew up in a repressive evangelical environment,. possibly same sex attracted. And Lavery is an addict.

Religious indoctrination and substance abuse, these two are walking cliches.
 
I’m late to the party but would like to state for the record that anyone who doesn’t believe in the innocence of children either has never been around small children or is an abuser. Either answer could fit Joe.

I used to roll my eyes at this quote, until I actually was around small children as a grown adult and realized it was 100% true.

“Children are human beings to whom respect is due, superior to us by reason of their innocence and of the greater possibilities of their future.” - Maria Montessori.

I think Joe just gets off on the idea of defiling and ruining people, girlfriends, society, kids, whatever…He’s a real sick fuck.
He can't hide from this. Queer theory has left a body of work saying exactly what Joe said. It's not like we just misunderstood him.

James Lindsay highlighted these two papers today, coincidentally, as he has not even seen Joe's tweets. This is about all the OTHER degenerates choosing this week to talk about how deviant kids are and how they deserve porn in school libraries.

FEQIY_UXoAcx8pG.jpg



When the pedos and pedo-defenders talk about how kids aren't innocent, if you ask for details about what they mean, they'll tell you things like "well, when I was a kid I had secret dirty thoughts that I felt very ashamed of but that people wouldn't think of as coming from an innocent kid."

And they totally in that moment reveal not only that they don't know what childhood innocence really means, and that they're pedos.

A kid having some weird off-the-wall sexual thoughts is being innocent. They're thinking about how body parts work together and what feels good to them. If a full-grown adult with normal mental development is thinking dirty thoughts and tells you about them and says they'd like to try something out, you might give that a spin. But kids, no matter what they think about privately, don't deserve to have their childhood invaded by an adult who wants to use their development as a way to vampirically gain back a little of their lost youth. This doesn't just go for the adults who actively molest kids, it goes for the neoqweers who want to give "sex ed lessons" and shock kids by telling them about fetishes and telling them all their most pervy thoughts are totally fine to enact.

There's a lot of cultural baggage wrapped up in the idea that childhood shame is the root of all problems. Goes back to Freud. But it was never true, and Freud was a fucking perv too who excused the all-too-common phenomenon of father-daughter incest as being something the daughter wanted and asked for. Some childhood shame is good for kids, and it's fine for kids to have some proto-sexual thoughts without talking to too-eager adults about a fucking word of it.
And I think most of us would agree that parents living through their children are also vampiring off their kids and should back off. See Jeanette and Jazz Jennings for a trans example, but parents of all types can put too much pressure on kids at times. The problem for Joe is that children learning from the mistakes of their parents is a healthy process, while children learning to fend off randoms getting involved in their sex lives is not.
 
Last edited:
Is anyone else besides me wondering about the impact of Mal's upcoming phalloplasty on her macho climbing hobby?
I’d be very surprised if this month’s phallo is happening. With all the other shit going down with Mal right now, my guess is she “postponed” the surgery as it is one of the few situations in her life she still has some control over.

Just a hunch.
 
Wouldn't that cause Joe to push harder on her?
Possibly but unless Joe has arranged to be on the West Coast, surgery means recovery— which means Joe, the dutiful spouse, having the unglamorous job of taking care of Mal.

If Mal’s surgery inconveniences Joe then I can see him being okay with the delay.
 
Imagine being cared for after a major pelvic surgery with arm or thigh skin grafts, by your lover's mistress, who is hoping to take your place and laughing that you no longer have what your lover needs to stay fascinated by you.

It's like if Ariel and Ursula the sea-witch were competing over a talking sack of potatoes with a masturbation problem.
 
Has Mallory ever seen a photo of a neo-penis? If she has and still wants to get one, someone needs to do an intervention. As bad as the neo-vaginas are (and there are some real horror shows), occasionally you can get one that sort of looks like a vagina if it is dark and you've had a couple (or 6) beers. I have never seen a neo-penis that looked like anything other than a cartoonish horror.

It will have no functionality and no sensation -- so it will be just like having a limp lump of flesh dangling off your body. Like fat people who have excess skin hanging off after losing a lot of weight. You are better off just strapping a dildo on when you want to peg someone and the rest of the time just walking around with a sock (or one of those silicon packers). At least you could occasionally get a break from it and not have that weird sensation of touching a bag of meat every time you have to shower or pee.
 
Has Mallory ever seen a photo of a neo-penis? If she has and still wants to get one, someone needs to do an intervention. As bad as the neo-vaginas are (and there are some real horror shows), occasionally you can get one that sort of looks like a vagina if it is dark and you've had a couple (or 6) beers. I have never seen a neo-penis that looked like anything other than a cartoonish horror.

It will have no functionality and no sensation -- so it will be just like having a limp lump of flesh dangling off your body. Like fat people who have excess skin hanging off after losing a lot of weight. You are better off just strapping a dildo on when you want to peg someone and the rest of the time just walking around with a sock (or one of those silicon packers). At least you could occasionally get a break from it and not have that weird sensation of touching a bag of meat every time you have to shower or pee.
Don't forget that they have to squeeze the piss out of those sewn on knockwurst tubes, otherwise it will collect in there and start to stink. And since those monstrosities have no blood flowing through them, they are freezing (I guess great for necrophiliacs?) and I've read the coldness between their legs has woken the pube beards in the middle of the night
 
Back