Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[ZehnBoat]

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white person killed white people
blacks most affected
holy shit, someone just put this nigger out of his misery
or just admit you're sub-human

There were Zero black people killed in this event.

race relations and grasp on reality has become so dulled and frayed that anytime the media talks about a white person, twitter blacks start jumping n hollering about MUH BLACK LIVES MUH BLACK LIVES

 

[Übertroon]

It's been on a downward spiral since Otto Von fucking Bismark. The only time Germany hasn't been fucking up Europe and blaming everyone else for it was when the US and USSR tore it in half and fucked the wet ends for 40 years.

Because as we all know that's when the good began rolling

I blame the anglos for consistently destroying any emerging continental power without an exit plan.

It will never stop being funny to ask the british if it was all worth it in the end

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Bismarck era to pre-WW1 Germany might be the closest the West's ever come to having an ideal society.

You have a strange definition of "ideal"

 

[RodgerDodger]

A "Not Guilty" verdict does not mean a defendant is declared Innocent, it means the prosecuting authority has not proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt, the legal standard in criminal cases.

It means the accused has been acquited of the crime and is innocent before the law. Otherwise accusation alone is damnation for life.

 

[unfer]

There were Zero black people killed in this event.

Big ups JumpkickMan, dodger of literal and metaphorical bullets

 

[Michael Janke]

also if that one guy loses the suit against the city. especially after revealing he lied about his gun.
that will basically deter most lawyers except the bottom of the barrel from taking the case.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It means the accused has been acquited of the crime and is innocent before the law. Otherwise accusation alone is damnation for life.

No. That's not the way it works. Many people believe as you do but it is not a declaration of innocence of the crime you were found Not Guilty of. People are successfully sued in civil court for something they were found not guilty of in criminal court all the time and it can be negatively considered by many government entities against you.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I was actually surprised Hard R Richards was using Grosskreutz' friend's statement about emptying a gun into the kid so much, after his dismissive testimony. But it makes sense because that mofo was obviously lying and anyone with two brain cells to rub together could see it. It was very effective.
For some reason I assumed he wouldn't be allowed to bring it up because the person in question refused to admit to it. Though I suppose he did, since he confirmed that he posted it, heh. What a fucking idiot...

 

[Roybertitos]

There were Zero black people killed in this event.

I think the planned spin that they're trying to pull to connect this to the whole black issue is that if Kyle was DeShawn Rittenhouse he would have been immediately killed by the cops or completely railroaded through the entire trial (like Kyle is now). Whatever side of the race issue you are, you have to admit that'd be highly unlikely given the circumstances.

Do they honestly think that in the wake of probably the biggest race riots of the 21st century they'd charge a black kid with murder over this? They didn't even charge those CHAZ speds over executing those black joyriding teenagers and that is even a greater travesty of justice than if Kyle were to simply walk for this. If Kyle was black he would have gotten a medal and Pedobaum and the rest would be cast aside as white supremacist infiltrators, guaranteed.

ETA: Just another thing to point out, this literally happened like a few months back. That kid in Texas who opened fire at his high school was bailed the next day at a fraction of what Kyle's was. People were defending a literal school shooter as being "afraid for his life" and being a "bullied kid" while they condemn Kyle as a literal Nazi terrorist. If Kyle was black or maybe even Asian he wouldn't have caught any charges at all.

 

[Matt Damon]

No. That's not the way it works. Many people believe as you do but it is not a declaration of innocence of the crime you were found Not Guilty of. People are successfully sued in civil court for something they were found not guilty of in criminal court all the time and it can be negatively considered by many government entities against you.

Not to mention that "damnation for life" is entirely possible.

Millions of people will believe OJ is a murderer until the day they die and they're entitled to do so.

 

[MugolEx]

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There weren't any black people involved. Why must they insert themselves into everything?

 

[derpherp2]

white person killed white people
blacks most affected
holy shit, someone just put this nigger out of his misery
or just admit you're sub-human


race relations and grasp on reality has become so dulled and frayed that anytime the media talks about a white person, twitter blacks start jumping n hollering about MUH BLACK LIVES MUH BLACK LIVES

You'd think they'd take the hint when the BLM "protest" was all white people pretending to be black and shouting nigger.

Or at the least, question who is actually exploiting who. But nope.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

You'd think they'd take the hint when the BLM "protest" was all white people pretending to be black and shouting nigger.

Or at the least, question who is actually exploiting who. But nope.

Expecting self-awareness is maybe overestimating your opposition.

 

[Lards and Lasses]

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Damn.

His descent into lolcow-dom is imminent.

 

[With My Dick]

him admitting he lied about having a gun gonna kill his suit
also id be emberrased to ssociate wuth a pedo, even if it was family
so its basically left to the domestic abuser.

OK - time to let my inner sperg out a bit.

Grosskreutz was absolutely in the orbit of Joshua Ziminski that hour, but did not seem to be as close to the center as Rosenbaum and Huber were. The gas station footage shows Grosskreutz wandering around, smoking a cig, and hitting on chicks in the background while "Shoot me, nigger!" was happening. Ziminski is calming the waters, and Huber is directly behind Rosenbaum, trying to restrain him at one point. The eye-opening thing for me, perhaps because I wasn't paying enough attention earlier, was Jump Kick Man trying to light fires with Rosenbaum.

I think Ziminski is a key here, and Richards called that out today. Why exactly did absolutely no one from the State even try to draw attention to his actions that night? He was telling Rosenbaum to save his energy. He directed Rosenbaum to hide for ambush (thanks FBI!). He fired a round into the air just as Rosenbaum was closing on Rittenhouse. He then casually strolled towards the south side of Car Source #3 with a gun still in his hand while everyone else was scattering like...they'd just heard five gunshots in quick succession nearby.

He was using Rosenbaum (and others) to block roads, set fires, and try to gas-bomb/incinerate police. Anyone seen as being on the side of the police was fair game, and this baby-faced medic all by himself was absolutely a prime target for a beating at least. Free gun, kid gets a little brain damage - win-win.

Here's where he fucked up: he didn't extend the "oh, he's on the side of the police" thought far enough to believe this militia dude may indeed be on the side of the police. After the geese scattered, he went to the place where an anti-cop person would go: the furthest point in the lot away from the police line. He figured he'd have a clear shot there. When Kyle somehow doubled back to check on the person he shot and then started running towards the actual police line? He must have felt like an idiot.

No worries, his wife is there to rally the troops and send them back north after him. People like Jump Kick Man and Huber are the people this message is meant for, and it resonates. It's ironic that the person furthest away from the message's target was Grosskreutz, and he was the first to catch up to Rittenhouse. He was trying to get some sweet, sweet social media money for running after a guy and "interviewing" him on livestream, but quickly switched from neutral to dedicated when overtaken by the mob on their way to Kyle.

I don't think he was thinking of mag-dumping into Kyle when he unholstered. I think he was more in the mind of forcing a surrender. Seeing Kyle flat on his back and firing at two other people changed that shit real quick.

And to think this could have all been avoided had people taken Kyle at his word that he was a friendly.

 

[NEETzsche]

Not to mention that "damnation for life" is entirely possible.

Millions of people will believe OJ is a murderer until the day they die and they're entitled to do so.

I've seen a lot of shit from leftoids to the effect of, "There can be no disagreement on matters of fact. There must be an Ultimate Source Of Truth which you may not dispute." If acquitted, I will engage in a great deal of schadenfreude as I bash them over the head with Instant Fact Checks™ and basically shout them down if they try to dispute an acquittal as total and complete proof of innocence. I will also directly besmirch them to their faces as being child molesters.

I feel zero guilt about this and if, on the off chance we get a sane outcome here, I will gleefully retaliate in kind to these "people." And yes, some of them I know IRL.

 

[Hotel in Minsk]

I wouldn't try that. Ask yourself, what was the FBI drone footage actually used for? It certainly wasn't used to prosecute rioters for serious felonies. So why was it there?

Open confrontation will not work. It will continue to be done quietly in the shadows. Very little of what is going on sees the light of day or is openly talked about. The actions and inactions are coordinated behind closed doors and there are many people involved who go to great lengths to assure that things play out the way they want.

I keep coming back to this question days after seeing your post. I have lost some sleep wondering to myself at night just what exactly the fuck is going on. I remember early on in the Floyd riots seeing footage of Apple stores, Verizon, AT&T, etc. being looted and thinking how dumb these looters were because the demo phones/devices they stole are all capable of being tracked and it would only be a matter of time until each thief who stole them would be identified and prosecuted. Obviously that never happened and in hindsight it was likely never never even considered. The idea that there were drones being operated by the FBI/feds and whose footage and evidence has been useless and just collecting dust up until now is also much different. I was aware of the drones and remember seeing flight patterns for them specifically over Minneapolis and also used in Portland. How naïve of me to think that the reason they were being deployed was simply to keep an eye on the rioters and whose data would later be used to prosecute those responsible for the arson, rioting, and looting.

Realistically what is the most likely answer for why feds were using these drones to surveil the riots if they weren't at all to be used until it was time to drop evidence off last minute at the door of the Kenosha DA's office, targeting Kyle and not the mob accountable for the destruction? I'm able to speculate and have a vague idea why but I'm also not smart enough to feel all that confident in my answer and would appreciate any insight on why this may have been the case. This is a genuine question btw.

 

[RodgerDodger]

No. That's not the way it works. Many people believe as you do but it is not a declaration of innocence of the crime you were found Not Guilty of. People are successfully sued in civil court for something they were found not guilty of in criminal court all the time and it can be negatively considered by many government entities against you.

A Civil Verdict particularly one of Wrongful death has absolutely NOTHING to do with Guilt or Innocents. It has no relation to or bearing on whether someone committed a crime. It's a judgement more of negligence.

 

[derpherp2]

Expecting self-awareness is maybe overestimating your opposition.

I'm not expecting self-awareness, I know they have self-awareness. And delusions.
Also opposition is overestimating them a bit, I'd call them more stubborn obstacles bent on getting their pound of flesh, and then another pound.
And then another pound.
And then another.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They think it's an amendment that is at best outdated and at worst is racist. He's a progressive lawyer he wants to suck up to the Davos/global financial elites.

I find the Davos folks to be a weird lot as who do they expect to keep them safe.

They importing millions of young male and usually violent sand niggers into Europe while disarming their own folks and financing a lot of terrorist groups like Antifa and ISIS.

There are also a lot of class traitors and bootlickers with the police a d military that support these folks as well, while allowed to keep their guns.