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What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
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There weren't any black people involved. Why must they insert themselves into everything?
There was; Jump Kick Man, who wisely backed off the moment Kyle recovered and leveled his gun at him. Since he was no longer a threat Kyle didn't shoot him, some white supremacist killer he turned out to be. To this day he's never come forward to identify himself even though you'd think there'd be some clout to be had over being the other sole survivor of KKKyle's rampage.
 
A Civil Verdict particularly one of Wrongful death has absolutely NOTHING to do with Guilt or Innocents. It has no relation to or bearing on whether someone committed a crime. It's a judgement more of negligence.
You can be found culpable of murder and pay damages in civil court. You will not find a single lawyer or judge that will state a Not Guilty criminal court verdict is a verdict which means a defendant is innocent of the crime they were tried for.

In the United States.

Licensed to practice in the United States.

A judge that was elected and/or appointed to the bench in the United States.

Within the last 50 years.

Not a single one.
 
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ETA: Just another thing to point out, this literally happened like a few months back. That kid in Texas who opened fire at his high school was bailed the next day at a fraction of what Kyle's was. People were defending a literal school shooter as being "afraid for his life" and being a "bullied kid" while they condemn Kyle as a literal Nazi terrorist. If Kyle was black or maybe even Asian he wouldn't have caught any charges at all.
People love to go on about “white privilege” but it’s niggers who have all the privilege now. The fact that that kid is out partying while Twitter and Reddit make excuses for him proves that. You simply cannot criticize black people or hold them accountable for their actions. Plus you have every single major corporation and celebrity fellating you constantly - sounds like oppression to me.
 
Maybe I missed it but does anyone know for sure where this claim that Kyle raised his rifle at the Ziminskys came from? I read, probably 300 pages back by now, that Mr Ziminsky has admitted in some form - outside the trial - to firing two shots (and there were 3 casings found..) and it got me wondering;

Is it possible that Binger came into information about Kyle's case by way of testimony in a different case, and again maybe I missed it but assuming this information didn't come up anywhere else, would it be legal for Binger to use that information against Kyle at all?

It sounds like a dumb question (and maybe it is) but unless I missed it I just don't see any other source for the "provocation" claim than Binger and Fat Man trying to charge the pickles as a cover for some secret witness.
 
I think the planned spin that they're trying to pull to connect this to the whole black issue is that if Kyle was DeShawn Rittenhouse he would have been immediately killed by the cops or completely railroaded through the entire trial (like Kyle is now).

No, it's simpler than that. Never reveal the race of the people he shot. Say "white teen shoots Black Lives Matter protestors with AR-15". Trust that the audience will only see "white shoots Black."
 
race relations and grasp on reality has become so dulled and frayed that anytime the media talks about a white person, twitter blacks start jumping n hollering about MUH BLACK LIVES MUH BLACK LIVES
One standard deviation lower than all the rest of humanity.

Abysmal IQ has consequences.

I think the planned spin that they're trying to pull to connect this to the whole black issue is that if Kyle was DeShawn Rittenhouse he would have been immediately killed by the cops or completely railroaded through the entire trial
Yeah and if their aunt had balls she'd be their uncle. What's their point?
 
Maybe I missed it but does anyone know for sure where this claim that Kyle raised his rifle at the Ziminskys came from? I read, probably 300 pages back by now, that Mr Ziminsky has admitted in some form - outside the trial - to firing two shots (and there were 3 casings found..) and it got me wondering;

Is it possible that Binger came into information about Kyle's case by way of testimony in a different case, and again maybe I missed it but assuming this information didn't come up anywhere else, would it be legal for Binger to use that information against Kyle at all?

It sounds like a dumb question (and maybe it is) but unless I missed it I just don't see any other source for the "provocation" claim than Binger and Fat Man trying to charge the pickles as a cover for some secret witness.
It was Binger seeing a bunch of pixels that looks like Kyle pointing a Rifle at someone to somebody who wants to see that because in reality it's a mess of pixels. He realized he needed to pull something out his ass when his "star witness" turned into a star witness for the defense.
 
It has no relation to or bearing on whether someone committed a crime.
Now you're conflating being found criminally guilty/not guilty with actually having committed a crime (in some objectively true sense) in the very same way you're accusing him of conflating civil culpability with criminal culpability.

All of these are just varying degrees of likelihood of a person having done something.
 
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Maybe I missed it but does anyone know for sure where this claim that Kyle raised his rifle at the Ziminskys came from? I read, probably 300 pages back by now, that Mr Ziminsky has admitted in some form - outside the trial - to firing two shots (and there were 3 casings found..) and it got me wondering;

Is it possible that Binger came into information about Kyle's case by way of testimony in a different case, and again maybe I missed it but assuming this information didn't come up anywhere else, would it be legal for Binger to use that information against Kyle at all?

It sounds like a dumb question (and maybe it is) but unless I missed it I just don't see any other source for the "provocation" claim than Binger and Fat Man trying to charge the pickles as a cover for some secret witness.
Bnigger deliberately made it so Ziminski's arson case that HE is charging him with is postponed to AFTER the Rittenhouse trial, so he wouldn't be able to testify.
Ziminski was there on the scene with Rosenbaum when he assaulted Kyle Rittenhouse, he's a key witness. He can be seen with his whore on the video ambushing Kyle with a gun the moment Pedobaum attacked.

I see this as prosecution hiding exculpatory evidence. Joshua Ziminski could've testified to confirm what we've all seen, but he would've been incriminating himself and tanking prosecution's case.
 
You can be found culpable of murder and pay damages in civil court. You will not find a single lawyer or judge that will state a Not Guilty criminal court verdict is a verdict which means a defendant is innocent of the crime they were tried for.
i think i mentioned this before. Grosskikes lied about having a gun and admittied to it in court. no doubt that will be used against him by the city to kill his suit
as for Pedobaum, is his family that willing to stick up for him? the prosecution for this case didnt even do that very well, they called him a Bumbling iditot manlet without even mentioning his pedohpilia.
Now we just have to wait and see if the domestic abusers family Kyle shot is willing to sue Kyle
he might have the strongest case of them all.
though the person he abused might not be too happy him being in the spotlight again.
edit: except for the fact that he tried to kill Kyle by bashing him with a skateboard.
all their cases have serious problems that the civil suit against OJ didnt have.
 
i think i mentioned this before. Grosskikes lied about having a gun and admittied to it in court. no doubt that will be used against him by the city to kill his suit
as for Pedobaum, is his family that willing to stick up for him? the prosecution for this case didnt even do that very well, they called him a Bumbling iditot manlet without even mentioning his pedohpilia.
Now we just have to wait and see if the domestic abusers family Kyle shot is willing to sue Kyle
he might have the strongest case of them all.
though the person he abused might not be too happy him being in the spotlight again.
Man, I really wish Pedobaum got shot in the arm and survived like Grosskreutz. Not because I like the guy, no, but you just know he'd be so pissed off by the constant midget-bashing in the courtroom.

Just imagine him at the stand, with Binger saying "is it true you're a doughy 5'2" manlet completely incapable of harming a fly, let alone a person?" And him just fucking seething while saying "yes" through his teeth. Or even better, blowing up and saying he could've ripped Kyle's throat out.

This trial would be at least three times more hilarious if we got him at the stand.
 
Man, I really wish Pedobaum got shot in the arm and survived like Grosskreutz. Not because I like the guy, no, but you just know he'd be so pissed off by the constant midget-bashing in the courtroom.

Just imagine him at the stand, with Binger saying "is it true you're a doughy 5'2" manlet completely incapable of harming a fly, let alone a person?" And him just fucking seething while saying "yes" through his teeth. Or even better, blowing up and saying he could've ripped Kyle's throat out.

This trial would be at least three times more hilarious if we got him at the stand.
And like Ethan Ralph, he loses an inch every cross examination.

And once that's done, he makes a move on Kyle, Kyle grabs the bailliff's gun in the scuffle, and blows his brains out. Perfect ending.
 
Maybe I missed it but does anyone know for sure where this claim that Kyle raised his rifle at the Ziminskys came from? I read, probably 300 pages back by now, that Mr Ziminsky has admitted in some form - outside the trial - to firing two shots (and there were 3 casings found..) and it got me wondering;

Is it possible that Binger came into information about Kyle's case by way of testimony in a different case, and again maybe I missed it but assuming this information didn't come up anywhere else, would it be legal for Binger to use that information against Kyle at all?

It sounds like a dumb question (and maybe it is) but unless I missed it I just don't see any other source for the "provocation" claim than Binger and Fat Man trying to charge the pickles as a cover for some secret witness.
To the best of my knowledge, the only people asserting this are the prosecutors. The photograper is on record saying that the shit he was being pressured to add into his statement by Binger had something to do with Ziminsky, but he hasn't offered any specifics publicly. It's been speculated that the bullshit gun provocation story is what Binger was trying to get the photographer to write into his statement. It would make perfect sense, provocation is pretty much the only way for them to invalidate the otherwise air tight self defense claim. He was probably leveraging Ziminsky's arson charges to get him to play along and then tried to bully the autistic photographer into corroborating the story, but it backfired when he refused and lawyered up.
 
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I keep coming back to this question days after seeing your post. I have lost some sleep wondering to myself at night just what exactly the fuck is going on. I remember early on in the Floyd riots seeing footage of Apple stores, Verizon, AT&T, etc. being looted and thinking how dumb these looters were because the demo phones/devices they stole are all capable of being tracked and it would only be a matter of time until each thief who stole them would be identified and prosecuted. Obviously that never happened and in hindsight it was likely never never even considered. The idea that there were drones being operated by the FBI/feds and whose footage and evidence has been useless and just collecting dust up until now is also much different. I was aware of the drones and remember seeing flight patterns for them specifically over Minneapolis and also used in Portland. How naïve of me to think that the reason they were being deployed was simply to keep an eye on the rioters and whose data would later be used to prosecute those responsible for the arson, rioting, and looting.

Realistically what is the most likely answer for why feds were using these drones to surveil the riots if they weren't at all to be used until it was time to drop evidence off last minute at the door of the Kenosha DA's office, targeting Kyle and not the mob accountable for the destruction? I'm able to speculate and have a vague idea why but I'm also not smart enough to feel all that confident in my answer and would appreciate any insight on why this may have been the case. This is a genuine question btw.
Well, let's consider some options:

1: The FBI was keeping an eye out specifically for Rittenhouse types: anyone that would push back against the Cathedral-endorsed rioters. This is the one we like to jump to, but the late arrival of the footage makes me cautious about that conclusion. If this had been the intent, then the FBI would likely have provided the footage to the prosecution at the earliest opportunity, rather than halfway through the trial a year later.

2: The drones were overwatch for plainclothes agents on the ground. Why the FBI would have people in the crowd is its whole own can of worms, ranging from "agitators" to "partyvan squads hunting specific targets", but if the purpose was direction instead of info gathering, then it could explain the delayed delivery: that wasn't the purpose, so it wasn't until some mid-level puke in the drone department got reminded of the trial that he decided to check the archives and see if they had anything relevant.

3: Situation monitoring. An aerial view of the riots likely gives a better image of the scale of events than cell phone video, and could potentially be used to inform whoever is in charge of advising the President that it's time to tell the governors and mayors to go fuck themselves and send in the National Guard. Hell, maybe Trump even got the chance to witness Kyle in action on exclusive livestream.

4: Mass facial recognition. If we're following the Bezmenov plan, then eventually there will be a culling of the useful idiots, so it behooves the State to identify them now for dealing with later.

5: Coordinating with local law enforcement. The most benign option, but there is the chance that the FBI was using drones to give the cops a real-time read on what was going on behind the lines, giving them the opportunity to head off any advances by the rioters. This would require a pretty in-depth analysis of the police's motions across multiple nights and cities to see if there's any credibility to this, though.

Ultimately, it feels like releasing the footage was a spur-of-the-moment decision. The "analysis" that said Kyle pointed his weapon was done at the prosecution's behest, and we don't know if there was any more footage taken or provided. Like I said, my gut says that this was some mid-level guy hearing about the trial and deciding to check through the archive, and could be either out of a political desire to fuck Kyle OR a genuine desire to facilitate justice. Keep an eye on Ziminski's trial coming up: if we get a second batch of footage, then it's probably the latter.
 
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