Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[LeChampion1992]

I find the Davos folks to be a weird lot as who do they expect to keep them safe.

They importing millions of young male and usually violent sand niggers into Europe while disarming their own folks and financing a lot of terrorist groups like Antifa and ISIS.

There are also a lot of class traitors and bootlickers with the police a d military that support these folks as well, while allowed to keep their guns.

I Mean the thing you have to understand is our rich elites are exceptionally incompetent. These aren't the evil geniuses of the post WW2 or the strong men of the late 20th century here. Our elites are phenomenomally weak minded and incompetent. Weakness in a society never ever ever has bode well.

 

[Slap47]

OK - time to let my inner sperg out a bit.

Grosskreutz was absolutely in the orbit of Joshua Ziminski that hour, but did not seem to be as close to the center as Rosenbaum and Huber were. The gas station footage shows Grosskreutz wandering around, smoking a cig, and hitting on chicks in the background while "Shoot me, nigger!" was happening. Ziminski is calming the waters, and Huber is directly behind Rosenbaum, trying to restrain him at one point. The eye-opening thing for me, perhaps because I wasn't paying enough attention earlier, was Jump Kick Man trying to light fires with Rosenbaum.

I think Ziminski is a key here, and Richards called that out today. Why exactly did absolutely no one from the State even try to draw attention to his actions that night? He was telling Rosenbaum to save his energy. He directed Rosenbaum to hide for ambush (thanks FBI!). He fired a round into the air just as Rosenbaum was closing on Rittenhouse. He then casually strolled towards the south side of Car Source #3 with a gun still in his hand while everyone else was scattering like...they'd just heard five gunshots in quick succession nearby.

He was using Rosenbaum (and others) to block roads, set fires, and try to gas-bomb/incinerate police. Anyone seen as being on the side of the police was fair game, and this baby-faced medic all by himself was absolutely a prime target for a beating at least. Free gun, kid gets a little brain damage - win-win.

Here's where he fucked up: he didn't extend the "oh, he's on the side of the police" thought far enough to believe this militia dude may indeed be on the side of the police. After the geese scattered, he went to the place where an anti-cop person would go: the furthest point in the lot away from the police line. He figured he'd have a clear shot there. When Kyle somehow doubled back to check on the person he shot and then started running towards the actual police line? He must have felt like an idiot.

No worries, his wife is there to rally the troops and send them back north after him. People like Jump Kick Man and Huber are the people this message is meant for, and it resonates. It's ironic that the person furthest away from the message's target was Grosskreutz, and he was the first to catch up to Rittenhouse. He was trying to get some sweet, sweet social media money for running after a guy and "interviewing" him on livestream, but quickly switched from neutral to dedicated when overtaken by the mob on their way to Kyle.

I don't think he was thinking of mag-dumping into Kyle when he unholstered. I think he was more in the mind of forcing a surrender. Seeing Kyle flat on his back and firing at two other people changed that shit real quick.

And to think this could have all been avoided had people taken Kyle at his word that he was a friendly.

Rosenbaum strikes me as the ideal useful idiot.

I don't think he was actually racist you despite saying the "n word". He was just a mentally ill person who didn't really understand that stuff that well. For him it was just a word to say to bad people and he had been told that those people were bad.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I keep coming back to this question days after seeing your post. I have lost some sleep wondering to myself at night just what exactly the fuck is going on. I remember early on in the Floyd riots seeing footage of Apple stores, Verizon, AT&T, etc. being looted and thinking how dumb these looters were because the demo phones/devices they stole are all capable of being tracked and it would only be a matter of time until each thief who stole them would be identified and prosecuted. Obviously that never happened and in hindsight it was likely never never even considered. The idea that there were drones being operated by the FBI/feds and whose footage and evidence has been useless and just collecting dust up until now is also much different. I was aware of the drones and remember seeing flight patterns for them specifically over Minneapolis and also used in Portland. How naïve of me to think that the reason they were being deployed was simply to keep an eye on the rioters and whose data would later be used to prosecute those responsible for the arson, rioting, and looting.

Realistically what is the most likely answer for why feds were using these drones to surveil the riots if they weren't at all to be used until it was time to drop evidence off last minute at the door of the Kenosha DA's office, targeting Kyle and not the mob accountable for the destruction? I'm able to speculate and have a vague idea why but I'm also not smart enough to feel all that confident in my answer and would appreciate any insight on why this may have been the case. This is a genuine question btw.

Machine party politics. Parts of America and their government are deeply corrupt. Chicago is just down the road, ffs. Do you think the feds in Kenosha that night were locals or do they answer to the field office in Milwaukee? Yeah.

There is more than enough open source evidence to put a lot of people on trial for the shenanigans last year. If it was pursued it would likely lead to some major political players throwing large amounts of money around to create it through activist groups and influencers. But it's almost too big to pursue as it would be the justice system basically dismantling the leadership of a political party.

Then again shitting their pants and doing nothing isn't satisfactory either. Some pressure will need to be applied lest the wider public lose faith in the institution.

 

[TexOffender]

Saw this on twitter. Can only hope he can rake some of those outlets over the coals for some sweet CNN money.

 

[Particle Bored]

I find the Davos folks to be a weird lot as who do they expect to keep them safe.

Mercs/PMCs.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Machine party politics. Parts of America and their government are deeply corrupt. Chicago is just down the road, ffs. Do you think the feds in Kenosha that night were locals or do they answer to the field office in Milwaukee? Yeah.

There is more than enough open source evidence to put a lot of people on trial for the shenanigans last year. If it was pursued it would likely lead to some major political players throwing large amounts of money around to create it through activist groups and influencers. But it's almost too big to pursue as it would be the justice system basically dismantling the leadership of a political party.

Then again shitting their pants and doing nothing isn't satisfactory either. Some pressure will need to be applied lest the wider public lose faith in the institution.

If nothing else the Mayor of Kenosha is looking highly suspect and has thus far managed to avoid most of the backlash for this entire farce. He'd be an easy sacrificial lamb to start off with.

 

[TheClappening]

Saw this on twitter. Can only hope he can rake some of those outlets over the coals for some sweet CNN money.

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And Sandmann was "just" accused of smirking at some drum beating stolen-valor injun. People called him an asshole for a few months then forgot about him.

In the mind of the nuts, Kyle is always going to be that white supremacist mass shooter, no matter the verdict.

 

[Particle Bored]

Rosenbaum strikes me as the ideal useful idiot.

I don't think he was actually racist you despite saying the "n word". He was just a mentally ill person who didn't really understand that stuff that well. For him it was just a word to say to bad people and he had been told that those people were bad.

Plus he's a wigger.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

Saw this on twitter. Can only hope he can rake some of those outlets over the coals for some sweet CNN money.

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I heard that it was closer to 750 million. Sandmann is subject to a NDA as part of the settlement

 

[TheClappening]

I heard that it was closer to 750 million. Sandmann is subject to a NDA as part of the settlement

We don't know what he got. I think the entire suit was going for $250 mil, so I doubt a settlement would give him the amount he was suing for.

 

[rage against modernity]

We don't know what he got. I think the entire suit was going for $250 mil, so I doubt a settlement would give him the amount he was suing for.

Do they just give him an Indian casino?

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

We don't know what he got. I think the entire suit was going for $250 mil, so I doubt a settlement would give him the amount he was suing for.

He sued multiple outlets.

 

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He sued multiple outlets.

And if he asked for $250,000,000 and they decided Punitive damages were appropriate, well, that's triple, isn't it?

 

[This Is Serious Mum]

I keep coming back to this question days after seeing your post. I have lost some sleep wondering to myself at night just what exactly the fuck is going on. I remember early on in the Floyd riots seeing footage of Apple stores, Verizon, AT&T, etc. being looted and thinking how dumb these looters were because the demo phones/devices they stole are all capable of being tracked and it would only be a matter of time until each thief who stole them would be identified and prosecuted. Obviously that never happened and in hindsight it was likely never never even considered. The idea that there were drones being operated by the FBI/feds and whose footage and evidence has been useless and just collecting dust up until now is also much different. I was aware of the drones and remember seeing flight patterns for them specifically over Minneapolis and also used in Portland. How naïve of me to think that the reason they were being deployed was simply to keep an eye on the rioters and whose data would later be used to prosecute those responsible for the arson, rioting, and looting.

Realistically what is the most likely answer for why feds were using these drones to surveil the riots if they weren't at all to be used until it was time to drop evidence off last minute at the door of the Kenosha DA's office, targeting Kyle and not the mob accountable for the destruction? I'm able to speculate and have a vague idea why but I'm also not smart enough to feel all that confident in my answer and would appreciate any insight on why this may have been the case. This is a genuine question btw.

The Feds want more control over your life to make their jobs easier. What better way to achieve that than capitalising on the white supremacy narrative and asking for more ways to spy on citizens.

 

[Neanderthal Guru]

Found a pretty good big-picture thread on twitter about the case that largely aligns with my views. I think he's somewhat overstating the societal danger of a guilty verdict, but he describes pretty well why so many people find the trial important on a visceral level.

https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1460332516351647744
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[MrJokerRager]

Mercs/PMCs.

In some ways, the battle of Fallujah happened because some mercs, fucking mercs, not American soldiers got BTFO by a bunch of pissed off Sunni goat people.

I never liked the PMCs like Blackwater or Xi or whatever else they go by these days.

Deus Ex was a documentary and I expect those lot to be used on American soil as a work around to Posse Comitatus.

 

[LaxerBRO]

I heard that it was closer to 750 million. Sandmann is subject to a NDA as part of the settlement

They probably settled for about 2.5 million. The issue with lawsuits for a high dollar amount is that it makes the jury view the person filing as greedy and even if the jury comes up with that amount by itself the issue becomes the tort reform laws. Between those factors and attorney fee's, its irrational to keep going for the demanded amount.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

There was; Jump Kick Man, who wisely backed off the moment Kyle recovered and leveled his gun at him. Since he was no longer a threat Kyle didn't shoot him, some white supremacist killer he turned out to be. To this day he's never come forward to identify himself even though you'd think there'd be some clout to be had over being the other sole survivor of KKKyle's rampage.

He's never going to come out. At least not until the statute of limitations for arson is over. The guy is clearly smart enough to know they have him on camera doing a wide variety of illegal shit, and probably figures that any clout he would get isn't worth the trouble.

Honestly it's the most surprising thing to me about this whole event. Dude has not been identified at all, which is truly surprising in this day and age. I'm sure the defense and prosecution both looked for him to testify. Hell maybe one day we'll find out who he is, but I doubt it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The gist is that conservatives in the US will talk a big game about taking up arms against the state, but are terrified of actually doing so.

Groups like the IRA walked the walk.

And honestly, for all /pol/ takes, I think 1/6 is the most they can do IRL. Kyle wasn't the hero they wanted, he really hasn't matched the image of the memes, and I have my doubts that the next big riots will see hundreds of Kyles and Roof Koreans across the country. It's easy to romanticize things.

Kyle literally did nothing illegal except for being out past curfew.

And not even that stuck apparently.

 

[Thomas Talus]

I would expect an attempt to get a civil verdict against someone after a successful claim of self-defense to be an uphill battle, as contributory negligence is a thing, including in Wisconsin (51% rule), and you've already got some reses judicata'd about who started the fight.