Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%

  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%

  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%

  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%

  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%

  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%

  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%

  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-black-rifle-coffee-gun-range.amp

Lol slate already seething
I’ve never felt much need to interrogate why I come here. Shooting is fun—that’s it. But watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial over the past few weeks, and particularly how it’s become a flashpoint for American gun culture (just ask that coffee brand), I wondered what would happen if I actually talked to some people here about it. Do they really believe this kid is a hero? Late last week, as the trial wound down, I decided to stop in and ask a few.

Fernando, a white gun owner in his 30s who I discovered lives only a few blocks away from me in Newark, darkened a bit when I told him I was a journalist.

“I believe in freedom for all, but I don’t believe in the freedom for the bullshit press. People shouldn’t able to use the press as a mouthpiece for a political party,” he said.

“I’m a conservative guy, but I’m not watching Fox or any of that,” he said, apparently to clarify. Politics, he told me, has rotted the news “on both sides.”

On Rittenhouse, he said, “I don’t make judgement calls. I’m not privy to all the facts like the defense attorney and the prosecutor. They have all the facts and videos. I’ve seen a couple things, and I take what I hear on the radio or what I see on TV with a grain of salt. I don’t trust shit.”
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“If this young man was attacked, and he used a gun to defend himself, that’s his Second Amendment right. It’s in the Constitution,” he continued. “Going back to the times of the Revolution, a man needed a gun to protect himself.” But did Rittenhouse need to carry his gun into a protest in another state? “I got an AR in this bag,” he said, softening. “I don’t believe people should use guns for violence. I like to target practice. That’s what I have them for, to tell you the truth.”
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Not getting what he wants, he talks to some black people

But Willy, the first nonwhite shooter I spoke to that day, had a different view of the case. “He’s at fault. He’s 17, not in his state; what exactly is he defending?” he asked. “A gun should only be for when danger comes to you. I’m not going to look for something and try and be a hero. If someone screams for help, I’m might help them, but I won’t act like it was self-defense.”

He also found Rittenhouse’s behavior on the stand offensive. “He’s pulling his white card. This guy has some nerve. I’m like, ‘Yo, you did all that, and you thought you would get away with it?’” he said. (Still, he believes Rittenhouse will win: “It’s America.”)

Willy encouraged me to stop renting guns when I come to the range, and buy one to keep for my own protection. He said he thinks the Rittenhouse case is a good example of why someone like me should become a gun owner. “I think everybody should go and get yours,” he said. “Just for self-protection. Get you something. Those two people he killed, I bet if he knew more people had guns, he wouldn’t have been so cavalier.”
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He asked another black guy
Lloyd, another Black visitor on his 30s, was also skeptical of Rittenhouse. He’s been paying close attention to the trial, and says the all the evidence needed available on video since last summer.

“I think it’s bullshit. They are giving him too much leeway,” he said. “To me, it’s premeditated because he brought a gun to a protest. I can’t go to your house with a gun to get you—I’m getting locked up for a long time.” (Lloyd, like Willy, did not volunteer his political leanings.)

Lloyd, who owns at least three guns, bought his weapons not to protect his home but his family. He was careful to make the distinction. “I got insurance to replace everything. I can’t replace my family. That’s all it is. It’s a tool just like any other tool,” he said. If things were to ever go wrong, he told me he can’t imagine himself being treated the same as Rittenhouse. (“They took that white boy who shot up a Black church to McDonalds. You think they’d take me to McDonalds?” he said. I unfortunately knew what he was talking about.)

Lloyd has a conceal carry permit, but keeps his gun locked in his trunk. He doesn’t like showing it off. He worries that the Rittenhouse case makes all gun owners look reckless. “Think of the responsibility of how it reflects on you as a gun owner,” he said. “I think it’s OK to want to protect yourself, but I don’t believe your right to own a gun is just a right. It comes with responsibility.”
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Just a note, getting a concealed carry permit in New Jersey is incredibly difficult, especially in North Jersey where this story is set.
 
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I am fairly confident that even if the Jury came to a quick decision (especially not guilty) they want to go over everything and talk it out for a while especially so they dont get accused of being biased or already having their mind made up or whatever. Im staying optimistic that it will happen in the next hour or so.

If we dont get a verdict today, then I dont see a good outcome. I still think a hung jury is a high possibility and all of this could be the result of one juror not agreeing.
 
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LurkTrawl said:
What the fuck? Does this guy think playing videogames is like the Matrix or some shit?
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I guess?

I mean, as far as I can judge on my own experience, videogames do the opposite, they actually help to relief a certain amount of stress and the urge of the violence and. Also compensate for the lack of sexual activity trough teabagging the dead corpses in multiplayer battles.
 
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Everyone's growing and moving on
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BRIAN: Dear Mr. Schroeder. We accept the fact that we had to sacrifice ten whole days in trial for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you’re crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us: in the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a militiaman…

ANDY: …and an active shooter…

ALLISON: …and a white supremacist…

CLAIRE: …a pedo killer…

JOHN: …and an innocent man.

BRIAN: Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, The Ritten House.
 
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Pro-Life? Yeah right. Owned conservatards/
 
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