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If you want to be classy you can just send them this Oliver Cromwell quote:

"I do not believe that this is an evil king. But he is confused. And he cannot say no to his wife. Therefore if it please God I shall raise an army of men who are not confused. Stern men who say no to the tyranny of kings and wives. Men who make no confusion over the ordained place of man and woman, king and subject. And with these stern, God-fearing men, I shall ride. And we shall be called Ironsides because we are like iron, being hard both day and night. And the king shall find us unyielding, like a rod of iron, and shall give us satisfaction. Like our wives!"
 
Revisiting the words of Cromwell i am compelled to acknowledge he would have been a 4chan poster had he lived in current times

"Our manly ways and stern simplicity wreak much confusion to the enemy's councils. For they are men yet garb themselves as women, wearing wigs and finery and lace. And for this offense if it be God's will we will come upon them in the night, from the rear, and penetrate their degenerate bodies with our holy truth. For we are manly saints and possess the full swelling hardness of our faith, which gushes forevermore from Christ's unyielding root."
 
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Austrian police randomly check the vaccination status of shoppers after lockdown of unvaccinated

This is some nazi looking shit if I've ever seen it.
If anybody ever fucking doubted the truth behind the idea of countries acting on lockstep? That's an Austrian police officer using the English work for putting citizens under house arrest.
 
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So Austrians are being wild ass eyed fascist maniacs? This has never happened before.
The Austrians get away with it because they all screamed in unison in 1945 "we wuz Hitlerz first victimz." This means a Wehrmacht officer who spent WWII working at a place they shot random Serbs, Jews, and commies (when they were too lazy to drag them to the concentration camp down the road) got to be UN Secretary General and Austrian President.
 
FDA asks federal judge to prevent covid vaccine info from being released until 2076. 20 fucking 76.

I only have two letters to said to the FDA: FY!

Meanwhile in Austria. there might be still some small hope there.

The police and army are rising up against the government in Austria. What we need is a good old fashion military coup dragging these politicians out in some countries to put the fear of revolution in the rest of them. That is how even a Political Contagion unfolds. Only when the military and police decide to defend the people’s way of life instead of destroying the future of their own children, will justice ever rise from the ashes.

The police and the army have stood up and refused to enforce these health passes especially when Bill Gates has admitted that getting vaccinated does not prevent a COVID infection nor does it prevent spreading COVID. So there is no difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

The Austrian military and the police are the first in the world to stand for human rights against this foreign agenda. They have come to the aid of their country in the name of “freedom and human dignity” which is really fighting a foreign invasion. The Swiss need to raid the World Economic Forum and then we will see all the evidence of how there is a coordinated global assault upon our freedoms.
 
Lol, pearl clutching on dumb talkshow when someone's against vax mandates

‘The View’ erupts during segment with unvaccinated former co-host, providing a teachable moment​


“The View” is not the first place I would go for nuanced political or public health discussions. But Tuesday’s episode did at least provide a teachable moment when it comes to vaccine skepticism.

For those who didn’t tune in, the episode featured a contentious interview with the show’s former co-host Jedediah Bila, whose time as its conservative voice was sandwiched between stints at Fox News. The interview was done remotely because Bila is unvaccinated, and ABC has a strict vaccination policy.

After plugging her book and reminiscing about her time as a co-host, talk turned to what Joy Behar aptly described as the “elephant in the room.” Bila explained why she is unvaccinated and why she thinks that shouldn’t matter, at least in her specific case, as well as why she opposes vaccine mandates.

The hosts responded apoplectically and derided Bila for promoting misinformation. One of them, Sunny Hostin, suggested the show shouldn’t even be airing what Bila was saying.

The first thing we can say is that much of what Bila said wasn’t demonstrably false — at least as much as the hosts suggested it was. But the second is that it was indeed misleading and slanted in a way that such vaccine conversations in conservative media often are.

To begin things, Bila dove into her supposedly special case for not getting vaccinated. She says she contracted the virus last year and claims that she maintains extremely high immunity levels — the kind of prolonged antibody levels that studies have shown are very unusual. She has said vaccinated doctors have attested to this and that she has a medical exemption for the vaccine but that employers and restaurants in New York City won’t honor that.

There are valid debates to be had about natural immunity and whether vaccination requirements should do more to reflect it, as we’ve written in this space. Anthony S. Fauci has said it’s “something that we need to sit down and discuss seriously.”

That’s when things went off the rails. Bila proceeded to discuss why she’s also against vaccine mandates.

“My point about this is that I am not anti-vax; what I really want is for people to make these decisions for themselves,” she said. One of the hosts registered a groan.

Bila continued: “I do oppose mandates. I oppose them on the fact that let’s look at the science. This is a vaccine that was created to prevent severity of disease and to prevent hospitalizations. Now we can have a whole debate on that in itself. But the vaccine does not prevent you from getting covid and does not prevent you from transmitting covid.”

It’s at this point that the groan grew into something more. Behar exclaimed, “Oh my goodness. No, that’s not so. C’mon, you’ve been at Fox TV too long.”

The thing is that you can make a case (as many did) that what Bila was saying was strictly accurate; it depends upon what you mean by “prevent.”

If you mean the vaccines don’t stop infection and transmission in 100 percent of cases, that’s accurate. But if you mean it doesn’t prevent any infections and transmissions, that’s false. Studies often continue to show the vaccines prevent more than 50 percent of infections. Recent studies have shown vaccinated people are also significantly less likely to transmit the virus in the fewer cases in which they become infected, though the early data is mixed.

So strictly speaking, vaccines do prevent infections and transmission in lots and lots of people.

And that’s the point. The exchange was emblematic of how such debates often devolve into vaccine skeptics citing this talking point. Not only did Bila say something that could be interpreted as saying the vaccines don’t really work at all, but in the process she effectively waved off the even larger and very demonstrable benefit of them — studies show unvaccinated people are 10 times as likely to be hospitalized and 11 times as likely to die — as if it was somewhat beside the point.

It’s the kind of all-or-nothing argument that vaccine skeptics have made for a long time and does indeed feature prominently on Bila’s other former employer. Would we all like for the vaccines to do more to prevent infections? Of course we would. But if you’re going to talk about how they’ve fallen short or perhaps aren’t worth it — even in your specific, highly unusual case — you’d do well to acknowledge the very significant positives as well.

Saying vaccines don’t stop all infections is also something we knew from the very beginning (early studies showed much higher efficacy against infection, but still not 100 percent) and is true of virtually all vaccines. Yet it’s often held out there as if it’s a startling fact that we’ve since learned.

Hostin concluded the segment by calling Bila a friend but suggesting the show shouldn’t even be airing what she was saying. A more fruitful approach would seem to be to actually provide the fuller context for what she was saying and to point out the very demonstrated benefits of vaccination — not just that it protects you personally from a serious case, but that it also significantly reduces even mild infections and transmission. Delving into why it was misleading to say what she said and stop there would seem a better way to get through to vaccine skeptics who have ingested the same talking point repeatedly.

But we never got to that point. Instead, the interview was ended for a commercial break — after Bila’s book got another plug.



 
I don't know where those quotes are from, but there is no way they're from Oliver Cromwell. The language isn't in the style of the 17th century; Cromwell didn't start the rebellion like that first quote implies; Queen Henrietta Maria was in no way a cause of the Great Rebellion nor did she henpeck Charles I; Puritans who hated wigs, finery, and lace hated them on women as much as they did on men; and Old Noll would probably have put you in the pillory for making blasphemous double-entendres like those are full of.
Have an actual quote from him, dismissing the Rump Parliament.
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!
 

Hospitalizations rising among fully vaccinated in U.S., Fauci says​

"What we’re starting to see now is an uptick in hospitalizations among people who’ve been vaccinated but not boosted."

As cases of Covid-19 rise throughout the U.S., health officials warn that an increasing number of fully vaccinated people are being hospitalized or going to the emergency room. The concern about waning immunity against severe Covid infection comes as the Food and Drug Administration is expected to authorize a Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine booster shot for all adults 18 and older.

“What we’re starting to see now is an uptick in hospitalizations among people who’ve been vaccinated but not boosted,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, said Tuesday in an interview. “It’s a significant proportion, but not the majority by any means.”


On Wednesday, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reported a decline in vaccine effectiveness among the elderly and residents of long-term care facilities, many of whom were the first to be eligible to be vaccinated last winter.

“Although the highest risk are those people who are unvaccinated, we are seeing an increase in emergency department visits among adults 65 and older, which are now again higher than they are for younger age groups,” Walensky said Wednesday at a White House Covid briefing.


Walensky also pointed to new data on long-term care facilities from the agency's National Healthcare Safety Network comparing rates of Covid disease between people who are vaccinated with two doses and those who have received extra doses.

“The rate of disease is markedly lower for those who received their booster shot, demonstrating our boosters are working,” she said.

Fauci and Walensky stressed that the majority of hospitalizations and deaths are still among unvaccinated people in the U.S.

"Studies show that those who are unvaccinated continue to be more likely to be infected, more likely to be in the hospital and more likely to have severe complications from Covid-19," Walensky said at the briefing.

The current seven-day rate of hospital admissions is about 5,300 per day, according to the CDC, and about 1,000 people in the U.S. are dying from Covid every day.

Still, it’s not clear how many breakthrough hospitalizations there are. Although the CDC has been tracking the rate of hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people, its website shows data only through Aug. 28. According to the latest data from the CDC, an unvaccinated person is at 11 times greater risk of dying from Covid than a vaccinated person.

The CDC didn’t respond to a request for new numbers.

At least 31 million people have received extra doses of a Pfizer, Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccine, according to the CDC.

Should younger adults get booster doses?


Fauci pointed to data from Israel that show a major improvement in protection against severe disease and hospitalizations in those who have had boosters compared to those who haven’t. In a study published last month, Israeli researchers found a twentyfold reduction in severe disease among those over 60 who got booster shots.

Another study last month from Israeli researchers and faculty members of Harvard Medical School found that booster doses were 92 percent effective at preventing severe disease when compared to having received a standard two-dose regimen at least five months previously.

As vaccination rates increase in the U.S., it’s expected that more vaccinated people would be hospitalized with Covid, simply because the vaccines aren’t 100 percent protective against severe illness, Fauci said.

“That’s where we get back to the importance of getting a boost,” Fauci said. “It will dramatically diminish the likelihood that if you do get infected with a breakthrough infection that you’ll wind up in the hospital.”

The U.S. is only starting to see “inklings” of waning protection against severe disease, Fauci said — but Israel has been about six weeks ahead in Covid’s development throughout the pandemic, one reason federal health officials have relied on its data.

“If you look strictly at the data from Israel, it’s very clear that the differences in immunity waning is much more profound in the elderly, but it goes across the board,” Fauci said, noting that, in particular, people over 40 who have had boosters showed marked improvement in protection against severe disease.

Given the lack of national data on breakthrough illnesses among younger adults, it’s unclear how many cases of severe disease there have been and whether boosters would provide a benefit.

“I wouldn’t be surprised that sooner or later, you’re going to see the data indicate that it’s also going to be very important for [younger] people, when they have boosters available, to get the booster shot,” Fauci said.

Dr. Bob Wachter, the chair of the University of California, San Francisco, department of medicine, would like to expand boosters to all adults over 18.

“It was reasonable to start boosting with people at the highest risk of a bad outcome or the highest risk of exposure,” Wachter said. “However, we’ve sort of gone through that stage, and there’s enough vaccine around.”

One of the biggest questions surrounding booster doses was a potential risk of inflammation of the heart muscle, or myocarditis, which has been associated with the mRNA vaccines, especially in young males. Israeli health officials report that no significant signals of myocarditis have emerged yet, Fauci said.

Along with the push for boosters, giving first doses to the unvaccinated is critically important, experts say.

Dr. Paul Sax, a professor of medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School, said getting people their first doses and others booster doses can absolutely happen at the same time.

“They’re separate processes and seem to be not in conflict with each other,” Sax said. “We can definitely do both, because I think most of the people who are vaccinated would agree to a booster dose if it meant they’d be better protected."

Sax is also strongly in favor of widening booster doses to include all adults over 18.

“It’s inevitable and in my opinion the right move,” he said. “It does appear that two doses just isn’t sufficient.”




The court document with regards to FDA asking for 55 years to release Pfizer's vax data
 

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If the government's sealing it for decades, you know it's probably pretty revealing. Like the Martin Luther King Jr. tapes, FBI wiretaps sealed until 2027, which show all the awful shit MLK Jr. did AND how the FBI wanted to control him and use him (and later ordered his assassination which they pinned on some weirdo named James Earl Ray) even though they still built him into a hero (while also ordering the death of Malcolm X because he said too many uncomfortable things for white liberals and casting him as a villain). There's plenty of shit like that buried in government archives which no one is allowed to look at because it implicates the government in doing bad things which only bad countries do.

The good part is that in 55 years the United States as we know it will not exist meaning whatever Chinese puppet state is in charge will show the world Pfizer's data or (unlikely but ideally) an actually good government in the United States will show it.
 
The answer is always: No, thank you. I will go back to my job now.

So when it comes out (LOL) that the vaccines (LOL) aren't going to save the world (LOL.)

You have a lawsuit. You did your job, and they failed you, and forced you out for not taking poison.

The aftermath once the dust settles is going to be a little bit nuts. Tons of lawyers are just waiting for the money machine to go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
I like that answer, honestly.

"You're terminated."

"LOL, no I'm not. I'm going back to work."

One thing though. Never leave until you have termination papers in hand.
 
There are only two reasons for pfizer to ask for the data to be locked away for 55 years. They are because they have something to hide and want to be sure everyone who is directly involved is dead, and cant be lynched.
If a company was succesfully saving the world, from end
times, and everything was going as planned they would be milking the crap out of it. Interns would have thier own chat shows already. Bank notes would have that stern looking mrna cunt on them etc.

For once; i would like america to stand up with one voice and say, 'no. release the data NOW.' Demand a top cat stands in front of you and explains why they want to hide the data and what is in the data. Watch that cunt sweat and when he/she finishes run them through. In minecraft.
 
If you want to be classy you can just send them this Oliver Cromwell quote:

"I do not believe that this is an evil king. But he is confused. And he cannot say no to his wife. Therefore if it please God I shall raise an army of men who are not confused. Stern men who say no to the tyranny of kings and wives. Men who make no confusion over the ordained place of man and woman, king and subject. And with these stern, God-fearing men, I shall ride. And we shall be called Ironsides because we are like iron, being hard both day and night. And the king shall find us unyielding, like a rod of iron, and shall give us satisfaction. Like our wives!"
Maybe if they care enough they'll drag out some old Unitarian professorial type to say "We used to think that way, here's why we don't anymore...." .
 
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Some of these countries are experiencing the biggest Covid outbreaks of the entire pandemic with high vaccination rates.

The solution? Moar vaccine!

If only we could jab every single person Covid would disapear.

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Gibraltar has 100% vaccination rate and is about to go back into lockdown for Christmas.

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For peak clown world those two little spikes last year we were in a HARD lockdown. That gigantic spike happening right now we're completely open.



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I think we can all agree that natural immunity doesn't work

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And neither does horse dewormer

I swear to God the world is an exceptional place.
 
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