Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

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What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
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I haven't watched yesterday, did the defence really push for a mistrial without prejudice
They did, stating that the defense not being able to formulate their case around the higher res video constituted an unfair trial and warranted a mistrial without prejudice. IMO, it came off as a desperate move, with them hoping the judge would be less hesitant to accept the motion if it was without prejudice.
 
They did, stating that the defense not being able to formulate their case around the higher res video constituted an unfair trial and warranted a mistrial without prejudice. IMO, it came off as a desperate move, with them hoping the judge would be less hesitant to accept the motion if it was without prejudice.
I don't get it. When they don't ask for a mistrial, everybody calls the defense spineless. When they do ask for a mistrial, everybody calls the defense desperate.

I get you guys think they should be doing something, but legal action without a solid plan is even worse than inaction.
 
And it's important to note that "Mistrial without prejudice" is what a hung jury results in. With prejudice -is- preferable, but convincing the judge of it is proving an uphill task.
He might do it as a fuck you to Binger and Fatty, I get the feeling retirement is looking good to him. It's not a legal strech by any means, there's precedent for it.
 
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They did, stating that the defense not being able to formulate their case around the higher res video constituted an unfair trial and warranted a mistrial without prejudice. IMO, it came off as a desperate move, with them hoping the judge would be less hesitant to accept the motion if it was without prejudice.
How is that grounds to back down? Doesn't the clear video clearly exonerate Kyle? No threat, no pointing guns, no provocation. That is stupid. Hammer that shit home, defence!
 
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Serious question, what the hell do you guys actually want the defense to -do- here? They cannot admit new evidence and are at the mercy of the judge. Said judge is absolutely hell-bent on not making a ruling and having it go to the jury.

What do you -think- they should -do-?
Remind the judge that he can't appease antiwhite subhumans and that Binger and fatty did not only make severe and underhanded errors but did in fact commit a crime?
 
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I don't get it. When they don't ask for a mistrial, everybody calls the defense spineless. When they do ask for a mistrial, everybody calls the defense desperate.

I get you guys think they should be doing something, but legal action without a solid plan is even worse than inaction.
They were already doing something by submitting a motion for mistrial with prejudice. I simply feel that they should continue to focus on pushing for that, rather than offering up a compromise that would give the prosecution a chance for another go. I understand those of you who believe that a second trial would be even harder for the prosecution to present a good case, but I'd rather they not be given the opportunity at all.

Of course, this all may end up not even being a factor, in the end. For all we know, the jury could return with a not guilty verdict before they even break for lunch this morning, and then all my bitching will have been for naught. Here's hoping.
 
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Serious question, what the hell do you guys actually want the defense to -do- here? They cannot admit new evidence and are at the mercy of the judge. Said judge is absolutely hell-bent on not making a ruling and having it go to the jury.

What do you -think- they should -do-?
Keep talking and talking until the judge gives in. War of attrition, it's a strat the defence unlike the pros, doesn't use.
 
Serious question, what the hell do you guys actually want the defense to -do- here? They cannot admit new evidence and are at the mercy of the judge. Said judge is absolutely hell-bent on not making a ruling and having it go to the jury.

What do you -think- they should -do-?
Get an experienced (and sympathetic appellate attorney then. That's where this is likely headed.
 
Remind the judge that he can't appease antiwhite subhumans and that Binger and fatty did not only make severe and underhanded errors but did in fact commit a crime?
1: The judge doesn't understand the issue with the evidence.
2: Judge has already made it very clear he wants to sit on his hands until the jury comes in.

How do you propose actually convincing the judge for either of those two things?
Keep talking and talking until the judge gives in. War of attrition, it's a strat the defence unlike the pros, doesn't use.
That'd be more likely to backfire hard., Binger and Kraus know this judge -very- well, they know exactly how to badger without crossing the line. None of the defense has any experience with the judge.
 
1: The judge doesn't understand the issue with the evidence.
2: Judge has already made it very clear he wants to sit on his hands until the jury comes in.

How do you propose actually convincing the judge for either of those two things?
Well, they might bring in an expert to help clarify on the issue with the file metadata, as was requested. That might do something, although I agree the judge will likely continue passing the buck to the jury.
 
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1: The judge doesn't understand the issue with the evidence.
2: Judge has already made it very clear he wants to sit on his hands until the jury comes in.

How do you propose actually convincing the judge for either of those two things?
The judge is a boomer, not dumb. Explain it to him or have someone explain it to him. Hell, demand an It expert.
The other thing...show him leftist tweets and talkingjeads bay for his blood. You are in this old man, no pussying out now.
He is obviously trying to go the appeasememt route.
 
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Well, they might bring in an expert to help clarify on the issue with the file metadata, as was requested. That might do something, although I agree the judge will likely continue passing the buck to the jury.
The judge is a boomer, not dumb. Explain it to him or have someone explain it to him. Hell, demand an It expert.
The other thing...show him leftist tweets and talkingjeads bay for his blood. You are in this old man, no pussying out now.
You then fail to understand court procedure. The judge is the one who gets to call that expert. The defense (and prosecution) can obtain and provide said expert, but they can't actually have said expert sit down and testify under oath... until the very same judge they need to convince of the necessity asks for it.

And all that leaves out the fact it wasn't even hinted at as an option until late yesterday, and setting that up takes time.
 
How did you people manage to add forty pages of literally nothing in the past twelve hours while literally nothing was happening? At least I contribute things of value:

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its because nothing is happening, yet the momentum of the Deliberation is in full swimg
when rekietas stream comes on later, we might actually get some substance here on this forum, especially if he's aquitted or a msitrial with prejudice.
 
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