Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I don't know how much TLJ sucking had an effect on its box office because Plan 9 still made over a billion (sure it was less than TLJ but still a billion)

That is solely based on China. $700 million was lost from foreign markets. They were having none of that. Star Wars just isn't a franchise that appealed to other territories, and it was dumb to try to go after them.

 

[Creep3r]

so I guess today is Life Day
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Happy Life Day and fuck you very much.
Love,
Lucasfilm

May the great Kopa Khan return one day, light the sky on fire and purge the hutts in flames of rebuke again. MuaarrRRRRRRRRrga!

 

[King Dead]

I think some of us crunched the numbers before in this thread (my memory is hazy after my whiskey-induced lobotomy) and the numbers didn't look that great iirc even with merch sales. Even if they had somehow managed to make a profit of 4 billion through films and merch alone, then that's hardly a profit, especially with inflation. For it to have churned a profit they would've had to have made more than twice what they paid for the brand, inflation included, within a set amount of time. And that's without including all the fees and taxes they have to pay, plus the cut of the films they have to give to the cinemas and to the Chinese film distributors who demand a hefty share for US films to be reviewed, altered and then distributed for chinese cinemas. Then there's royalties, film budgets, ads, etc. And the toys don't really sell well outside of OT material which seems to be the majority of the Lucasfilm's source for profits now. The comics also sold well at the beginning but are barely a blip on the radar since 2016, same with the Disney Wars novels. There's also the cut of the profits EA took from games which was negatively affected by the drama surrounding EAfront II.

So yes, even if Disney made back more what they paid for and them some with interest, it still wouldn't be enough when concerning inflation, fees and financial losses from failed ventures and the drama heavy productions filled with expensive reshoots worth whole movies themselves, along with any other failures they're not releasing to the public. The only real profit in SW is simply to raise Disney's status as a superbrand and attract more investors and shareholders which is where the real money is at. And the majority of the investors and shareholders are such hapless saps that they go along with whatever Disney says, and the few that don't either back out due to peer pressure or due to being advised against questioning Disney by their number-focused consultants. Kennedy in the end is just a "sweet face" for a moronic branch of a greedy company with a lot of charisma and business chatter know-how that investors can get behind especially with her vast history of slapping her name on anything Spielberg worked on. And even if she didn't have any skill at being a snakeoil seller for investors, with a powerhouse like Spielberg supporting her, there's no way she's going anywhere unless she wants to. And if that weren't the case, the entire executive branch of Disney including fuck ups like Alan Horn are all cut from the same soulless cloth. Its all fucked. They know it. But they can keep on bullshitting through it and still get the influence they need to keep on growing for whatever ungodly purpose they have in mind.
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Another big factor to consider: the parks. Between construction of the two Galaxy's Edge mini-parks at Disneyland and Disney World, the brand-new ride technology that failed miserably and needed to be replaced immediately and repeatedly, and the "cruise liner hotel" that last I checked still isn't finished (admittedly I haven't been paying Star Wars too much attention of late), they sank tons of money into the parks to make them a huge spectacular attraction. And the end result was a glorified shopping mall with a shooting gallery and a faulty dark ride. Still, it might not have been a bad idea if they could actually recoup their funds through encouraging people to come to the parks.

And then the coof happened.

Disney definitely took a massive financial hit when their parks were forced to be shut down for over a year, and while there really never would be a good time for that to happen, their various expansion plans meant it hurt all the more. The hotel got delayed even further as construction ground to a halt, and all these expensive additions were left gathering dust.

Remember, it's not just that initial $4 billion that Disney wanted to recoup. It's also all the other money they've spent on the property since then. I know Hollywood accounting is a literal joke, but there's only so far that can go, especially with how thin Disney's stretched itself over the past decade or so. If it comes tumbling down, I know I won't be shedding a tear.

(Also hi again, poking my head back in here for the first time in a while. Disney's still trash, I see.)

 

[Creep3r]

Another big factor to consider: the parks. Between construction of the two Galaxy's Edge mini-parks at Disneyland and Disney World, the brand-new ride technology that failed miserably and needed to be replaced immediately and repeatedly, and the "cruise liner hotel" that last I checked still isn't finished (admittedly I haven't been paying Star Wars too much attention of late), they sank tons of money into the parks to make them a huge spectacular attraction. And the end result was a glorified shopping mall with a shooting gallery and a faulty dark ride.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Didn't they waste around 3 billion building the parks, around 2 billion on the hotel, around a billion on the never finished european version, a billion or so more on repairs after some hurricanes and replacing buggy animatronics constantly to the point where it became so bad that they removed animatronics from their resistance ride and replaced them with led displays? If so, there goes even the most basic return they would've had too.

 

[Commander X]

You can tell how successful the sequel trilogy was by how they've shelved any sequels or spin offs, abandoned the medium of film entirely and are now purely focused on making TV nostalgia bait,

 

[Sneed F91]

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Didn't they waste around 3 billion building the parks, around 2 billion on the hotel, around a billion on the never finished european version, a billion or so more on repairs after some hurricanes and replacing buggy animatronics constantly to the point where it became so bad that they removed animatronics from their resistance ride and replaced them with led displays? If so, there goes even the most basic return they would've had too.

According to Forbes they cost a little over a billion each. Who knows if they've actually made a profit. If they weren't so retarded and made them OT/PT themed like it was supposed to be they'd be raking in the cash. Instead they have to rip guests off around the park in new ways and cheap out. A Galaxy's Edge retheme would be them admitting defeat but it would completely be worth it, just to prove how shitty their "sequels" were.

George = manlet in his 70s with a great head of hair
Rian = edgy faggot manlet in his 50s, going bald, perfectly round head, looks like a small child

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Currently playing KOTOR for the first time. I'm currently with Mission and Cal (?) trying to find Bastila. Just got out of the sewers.

Any tips or tricks worth mentioning? I know to get HK to join.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Currently playing KOTOR for the first time. I'm currently with Mission and Cal (?) trying to find Bastila. Just got out of the sewers.

Any tips or tricks worth mentioning? I know to get HK to join.

As far as I remember, gameplay-wise, it's rewarding if you hold back on levelling up your player character too much until you get to Dantooine. Allows you to save a lot of extra points for when you get force powers.

 

[Kane Lives]

That is solely based on China. $700 million was lost from foreign markets. They were having none of that. Star Wars just isn't a franchise that appealed to other territories, and it was dumb to try to go after them.

I mean, it's not like TLJ and Plan XI were good films to begin with. Like it or not, there's a baseline of competence before you can reap the rewards from foreign markets and both failed to clear the hurdle significantly. (To the point where I think it permanently damaged Star Wars brand recognition globally. Absolutely no one in my normie circles even talk about Star Wars these days beyond the usual prequel meme shit.)

Disney killed its own golden goose and I'm amazed they did it through their own incompetence.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Currently playing KOTOR for the first time. I'm currently with Mission and Cal (?) trying to find Bastila. Just got out of the sewers.

Any tips or tricks worth mentioning? I know to get HK to join.

On the ol' Xbox, the easiest way to kill the Rancor is to go to the bone pile, loot it, and then press X to switch it to give items to add the additive and a frag grenade. Otherwise, grenade spam and run away since he can one-shot characters. Also, if you pause and go to the item screen during battle, you can use one item--like a med pac--as a free action and avoid the long animation of using it.

As for refusing to level up, it matters most for the Jedi Consular. The game assumes that you'll be level 8 when you become a Jedi and thus, the master force feats cap at level 12. Force points, however, occur at every level and the Consular benefits most from more force points. Guardians only really need the Burst of Speed branch of powers and Sentinels land on the master of none part of jack of all trades, which is why in KOTOR 2, they get a lot more skill points.

The most irritating thing about KOTOR (other than Carth should be a scout, not a soldier), is that intelligence is a useless stat for the main character, followed by charisma. The only necessary skill is First Aid followed by persuade. Even then, persuade is only useful in the early game to get Hutts to get more credits. Force Persuade is so much better.

 

[James Roancrest]

Currently playing KOTOR for the first time. I'm currently with Mission and Cal (?) trying to find Bastila. Just got out of the sewers.

Any tips or tricks worth mentioning? I know to get HK to join.

Make sure to dump 17 skill points into repair, or get to that point using equipment to boost your stats. Repair is the only skill needed to follow a specific dialogue path.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Make sure to dump 17 skill points into repair, or get to that point using equipment to boost your stats. Repair is the only skill needed to follow a specific dialogue path.

Oh yeah, forgot that HK can get extra stats that way.

 

[Pres. Benjamin Franklin]

Fox didn't have anything in the space,

they had Aliens, Avatar and Independence Day.
those are all in space.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Dark Horse is going to do more Star Wars comic books starting next year.

Dark Horse Comics Returns to the Star Wars Galaxy | StarWars.com

New all-ages comics and graphic novels from the storied publisher will debut in the spring of 2022.

www.starwars.com

This is my own autistic tinfoil speculation, and might sound funny with all genderspeciality they've been doing, but hear me out.

I believe that Disney bought Star Wars and Fox to corner the market for Boy's Toys.

"But Goatse Ghostse, the force is female!". Yes, it is. But notice that aside from pandering shots and Captain Marvel, and Thor, gender woke hasn't really invaded the MCU. Male characters are allowed to be the stars and competent. Marvel has a 60+ year track recordof holding that attention of the young male demographic, comics as a whole even longer.

Buying LucasFilm I believe was a 100% defensive buy. They didn't want Fox to get all the Star Wars rights - I mean, imagine a non-exceptional Episode 7 dropping opposite whatever capeshit spectacle they were pumping out this year. Hell, imagine a full-exceptional individual Episode 7 and people seeing it anyway because they're getting burned out on capeshit.

I mean, Disney has Star Wars and Fox now; Fox didn't have anything in the space, but they have tons of properties that could be used to threaten them. That's no longer a concern.

The only threat Disney has, really, is Jurrassic Park. Universal tripped on their own dick trying to make a "Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe" with the Mummy reboot, and even then that was aimed at older audiences. MGM/Eon has Bond, but even if we forget the fogniggers tripping over themselves to publically castrate themselves but killing him, that'd be a huge brand overhaul to get the character 'cleaned up' to be kid friendly.

If Fox had bought Lucasfilm, would they want George to stay and work on the sequel trilogy? Even if they all knew he can’t write human conversations that well?

 

[Creep3r]

Dark Horse is going to do more Star Wars comic books starting next year.

Dark Horse Comics Returns to the Star Wars Galaxy | StarWars.com

New all-ages comics and graphic novels from the storied publisher will debut in the spring of 2022.

www.starwars.com

If Fox had bought Lucasfilm, would they want George to stay and work on the sequel trilogy? Even if they all knew he can’t write human conversations that well?

Calling back Dark Horse for help after moronically giving away the brand to the morons at Marvel just to save a buck really says a lot about the state of Marvel sales and the quality of IDW's own SW comics. Its just like how they dismantled LucasArts, gave the game rights to the corporate hacks at EA resulting in little success, only to take it back a decade later and make a LucasArts knockoff. This really does seem like a pretty heavy admission of defeat without wanting to admit it.

Beginning in the spring of 2022, experience adventures in every era, from the High Republic through the rise of the First Order, with new and exciting stories produced in collaboration with Lucasfilm and Disney Worldwide Publishing.

we will focus on stories featuring the High Republic.”

And Disney has learned absolutely nothing. You get one of the best comic publishers in the industry and all you want them to do is make comics about your Chinese-knockoff Empire and your disastrous High Republic multimedia project to try and salvage it after Marvel couldn't do anything to raise interest for it other than making some cringeworthy LGBTQIAWXYZ covers that only briefly got talked about on some crappy news sites? These Disney pigs have some people with actual talent now for writing stories and all they can think of is forcing them to write more Disney garbage instead of letting them write their own stories or reprint the comics they themselves made?

a new line of all-ages comics and graphic novels

So Dark Horse won't even be allowed to do anything mature like they used to? Just great.

May the great Kopa Khan return one day, light the sky on fire and purge the hutts in flames of rebuke again. MuaarrRRRRRRRRrga!
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Did no one get this reference except @RiceofSkywalker? Its in the main song from the Holiday Special and a major cult in the Rogue Squadron comics for Pete's sake.

 

[Ghostse]

Dark Horse is going to do more Star Wars comic books starting next year.

Dark Horse Comics Returns to the Star Wars Galaxy | StarWars.com

New all-ages comics and graphic novels from the storied publisher will debut in the spring of 2022.

www.starwars.com

If Fox had bought Lucasfilm, would they want George to stay and work on the sequel trilogy? Even if they all knew he can’t write human conversations that well?

I think Fox was off the table because of the contention with the rights to ANH; 30 some years of legal dicking around makes a person bitter. And even if George had decided that Fox would be the best home, I'm not sure he'd want to get ; honestly I don't think Lucas, especially at the time of the sale, wanted to be involved with Star Wars at all. And if he had, I doubted he wanted to be answering to Fox again even if Fox had wanted him.

He got a lot of shit flung at him for the Prequels (not all of it undeserved, as repeatedly discussed) and I think he was glad to not be involved. I think he only re-entered the conversation as much as he did because of just how badly Disney fucked up. I don't think Lucas regrets selling Star Wars. I think he has regrets about selling to Disney.

tl;dr I don't think Lucas wanted to be involved in the ST other than his treatment notes no matter who made it.

they had Aliens, Avatar and Independence Day.
those are all in space.

Not set in outter space, targeting the same demographics & toy market as Marvel/Star Wars (specifically cool spaceship explosions, melee combat, lasers, futuristic (or at least fantastic with moving parts) gadgets).
Aliens/Predator are close, but that targets an older Demographic with more 'statues' due to the remaining horror elements and guns/military which most parents are uncomfortable with for very young kids.
Avatar/Independence Day are mostly aimed at adults.

 

[Ishtar]

Speaking of Hett, for some reason I now think legacy would make a great HBO series.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Calling back Dark Horse for help after moronically giving away the brand to the morons at Marvel just to save a buck really says a lot about the state of Marvel sales and the quality of IDW's own SW comics. Its just like how they dismantled LucasArts, gave the game rights to the corporate hacks at EA resulting in little success, only to take it back a decade later and make a LucasArts knockoff. This really does seem like a pretty heavy admission of defeat without wanting to admit it.

I would be happy for Dark Horse because their SW comics kick Marvel’s ass all the time, but Disney will make them do their comics their way.

 

[Pres. Benjamin Franklin]

 

[Pres. Benjamin Franklin]

Not set in outter space, targeting the same demographics & toy market as Marvel/Star Wars (specifically cool spaceship explosions, melee combat, lasers, futuristic (or at least fantastic with moving parts) gadgets).
Aliens/Predator are close, but that targets an older Demographic with more 'statues' due to the remaining horror elements and guns/military which most parents are uncomfortable with for very young kids.
Avatar/Independence Day are mostly aimed at adults.

oh shit!
you're re*tarded.
sorry, man. i didn't know.