US Deprogram your relatives this Thanksgiving

By Molly Jong-Fast

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Some people (like my friend Tom Nichols) think that you should spend your Thanksgiving playing nice, pretending that your cousin doesn’t follow QAnon and that your uncle doesn’t believe the election was stolen and also that the Cyber Ninjas are a bunch of cucks for not uncovering voter fraud. Tom believes that Thanksgiving is a time for harmony and niceties and gratitude. I love Tom, but he’s completely wrong.

Spending a holiday sitting around, pretending your crazy relatives aren’t crazy, is one of America’s time-honored traditions. In normal times, you could be the dog in the house-fire meme declaring, “This is fine” while taking a sip of doggy coffee, but we are not in normal times.

Last Thanksgiving, many of us didn’t see our families, because the pandemic was raging. Now, 773,000 dead Americans later, we have vaccines and boosters. And while the unvaccinated are still dying at a pretty rapid clip, we are finally able to more safely get together with our parents and grandparents and weird cousins and uncles.

This is your chance to deprogram them. Facebook knows its algorithm radicalizes users. This is your chance to tell your aunt that maybe the news she gets from it isn’t all that reliable. And that maybe the MAGA news network is not giving her unbiased news, either.


Especially when it comes to vaccines, family members can actually win each other’s hearts and minds. A professor who has studied coronavirus-vaccine promotion at North Carolina State University, Stacy Wood, told The Washington Post that “the effort is worthwhile … A lot of people are convinced over time from small bits of information that trickle in.” According to a Time/Harris poll, 59 percent of people got vaccinated after a friend or family member did. You could literally save your creepy uncle’s life.

If you actually can lead by example when it comes to vaccines, what about the other stuff?

In May, The New York Times cited a poll in which “15 percent of Americans [said] they think that the levers of power are controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles.” I’m no statistician—in fact I’m barely able to add and subtract; I got a D in tenth-grade math—but to me that says there’s a decent chance someone at your Thanksgiving table will be QAnon-curious or believe the Big Lie. Should you let this person rant and rave about how there were voting “irregularities” even though there weren’t irregularities? If they’re keeping up with current events through Facebook and Fox News, they’re in such an information silo that they might never hear the truth of what really happened during the 2020 election. (For the record: Nothing happened; it was a completely normal election where Joe Biden won by almost the same margin that Donald Trump won in 2016.)

You might be the only person your uncle talks to all year who could explain to him that the Cyber Ninjas themselves found zero evidence of voter fraud. You might be the only person in the world who can sit down with your anti-vax cousin and explain to her that the vaccine won’t make her infertile and that Alex Berenson is a fraud.

You may also be the one person who unreservedly loves Thanksgiving, but let’s be honest, for most of us a five-hour meal with relatives you see once a year is no one’s idea of a great time. Have you ever thought, This is the gauzy Hallmark-movie fantasy I’ve always longed for?

I’ve done 43 Thanksgivings, and the best one was probably in 1997, when I was 19 and getting sober at Hazelden in Center City, Minnesota. I’m here to tell you Thanksgiving is terrible, and if you at least spend the time trying to deprogram your niece, you won’t be bored or depressed (though you might be enraged that Fox News or Infowars has convinced her Trump can “save America” from Joe Biden’s radical agenda of giving people hearing aids and free pre-K).

Maybe it won’t work. Maybe you’ll leave Thanksgiving dinner as divided as you were when you sat down at the table five hours and 4,000 calories ago. Or maybe you’ll plant the seed, sow just a little doubt about whatever Tucker Carlson is saying now. Maybe you’ll even change a heart or a mind. Maybe you’ll bring the temperature down just a tiny bit. Or maybe you’ll need to report a relative to the FBI! Either way, it’s something to do besides just eat.

source: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com...8/deprogram-your-relatives-this-thanksgiving/
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If you need to write a whole thinkpiece about owning your ideologically noncompliant relatives with Facts and Logic under the quasi-Soviet pretenses of 'deprogramming', that makes you the problem, not your relatives. No wonder the nuclear family is so alien to these people.

God, I want all these shitlib journalists to die alone in their overpriced Midtown apartments.
 
People have dug in heels regardless of the side pro or anti vaccine . This how you make your family even more uncomfortable and agitate your crank relative into some crazy rants you aren't winning anything .
It seems like the left has almost exclusively negative views of Thanksgiving. They hate the holiday and they treat it as if they're going to war with a right wing militia.

Edit to add: this alarmist articles were best back in 2016.
 
For those that don't know, Hazelden is part of the Betty Ford non-profit drug and alcohol treatment center chain. This dumb bitch is a real winner and it's no surprise that her family can't stand to be around her, so she projects this haughty attitude at gatherings.

Have another drink, Molly, you'll at least provide entertainment for those around you as you drunkenly flail your way through Thanksgiving dinner.
It's not a her.
 
There is a lot wrong with my family, but one thing I appreciate about it is that it's pretty much understood just not to even invite self absorbed cunts who try to bring their bullshit lefty politics. We try to avoid politics discussion any way even though we pretty much all agree on some level, just for the simple fact that we deal with this shit and bad news 365 days a year anyway. I'm sure there will be some general grumbling tomorrow at our dinner but guys, seriously, Thanksgiving should be a day where you're more focused on spending time with others and appreciating what you have instead of doomposting or being a lefty faggot or even being a curmudgeonly right wing loonbat. Just eat some good food and pass out on the sofa like normal americans for fucks sake.
 
Well I don’t see the reason why one shouldn’t drop a couple subtle red pills if a snippy relative decides to go all Branch Covidiot on you.

Maybe ask them when their next booster is gonna be, anything to wear down their confidence in the Science™.

Otherwise, the next best solution is to basically stand up and tell them that politics is off the table during the dinner.
 
If anyone wants to get political during a holiday like Thanksgiving or Christmas, then kindly fuck off.

If you are the type of person who views holidays as an opportunity to "convert" people to "your side" (whether it be left or right), then you are a zealot.

Most of the year sucks. The holidays, for a lot of people, are a time to actually chill the eff out, to have some long-awaited fun with loved ones, and to enjoy some comfort food. Anyone who wants to ruin that for others is a horrible person, and it will have the opposite effect of their miserable intentions.

Also, if someone instigates this garbage, then others have every right to mock and retaliate with their views. Just putting that out there.
 
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