General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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I’m not saying Vshojo is innocent, I just know Nux has a habit of doing this sort of thing and presenting his own opinions on things as absolute fact. The fact that Mouse said something against him leads me more to believe he legitimately fucked up here.
As absolutely massive as his ego might be/played up to be, I don't think he is so dumb as to punch up to vshojo with something that at the least he does not believe in. alongside Mel's deafening radio silence with only this while still replying to everyone else about anniversary things makes me pretty sure there is either a massive miscommunication caused by the Sec team, or the girls and Zen are hiding something.
 
You know, all this guessing about which side is really at fault, when it’s highly likely it’s just a combination of both.
You just know the drama's particularly spicy when I leave for a few hours in the afternoon to prep shit for Thanksgiving and I come back to 10+ pages about an escalating public slapfight between a bunch of turds and a cringey faggot.
 
To be fair, most companies have their own HR and PR departments, as well as at least 1 (one) bumbling lawyer to turn to.

When your entire company comprises of streamers and youtuber managers, they're PROBABLY not going to question the recommendations of the people they hired specifically to help them out.
Pretty sure they are at the point of multiple millions of yearly revenue now. When you get to that point, that reasoning starts to not hold for me.
 
To be fair, most companies have their own HR and PR departments, as well as at least 1 (one) bumbling lawyer to turn to.

When your entire company comprises of streamers and youtuber managers, they're PROBABLY not going to question the recommendations of the people they hired specifically to help them out.
If they actually hired an attorney, they hired a fucking moron.
 
I feel like a lot of people’s opinion on the whole mess lies more with how they feel about Vshojo in general rather than what’s actually going on.

You know, all this guessing about which side is really at fault, when it’s highly likely it’s just some combination of both.
I've been trying to sufficiently and shortly word a question to you and others and then you hit the nail on the head. Is it not possible they're all flawed (and some terrible) people in the past and even now? Edit: Also, that they may be flawed in different, non-competing ways in this? Sure people have a bias against both parties, but I ask you is there not reason to those bias and is there not merit to putting them under suspicion and criticism?

Both sides are dominated with a bunch of vain, attention seekers. This drama is between exceptional actors, just laugh at the clowns burning down their networking.
 
I still do not understand Vshojo simps. At the end of the day, the absolute worst thing we can say about Nux is that he released his video without actually consulting them and lied about it, something easily disproven with an email. But they don't deny what happened, they aren't denying they knew their name was getting used by a scam artist repeatedly, they don't deny they failed to act on it.

All they had to do, they have like what eight streamers and all they needed was one person to say "Hey guys, someone's using our name claiming to be us to get personal info, we're not accepting auditions, we're not demanding personal info." That's it, that would grant them the benefit of the doubt. But instead they're trying to tell us that they didn't say anything because stopping a crime would interfere with investigations of previous crimes? Who the fuck is stupid enough to believe that?
 
I’m just reminded of when Lily Peet did that video exposing that one brony analyst for being a groomer and accusing all the other members of protecting him and not warning their fans, and pretty much ever single one of them said “no, we were doing what the police said and gathering up as much evidence as possible to give to them so the guilty party couldn’t get away or bail before things were ready”.
I wanted to mention the ToonKritic thing but felt it might've felt weird. As I recall it Joshscorcher and the others didn't release audio of him admitting to grooming a child that had for 2 weeks was because they didn't want to interfere with a police investigation. As far as I know they weren't told to not release the audio. My thought were that idk if that would would interfere with an investigation and it still seems very irresponsible not the tell people given the severity of the threat. (ofc still fuck Lily for acting like people were protecting Toon, especially given her shady history)

If VShojo never warned people publicly about the phising scam (which is what it looks like so far) that's worse to me than what Josh and others did in 2018. At least I could argue that this was something that they weren't equipped to handle, they're YouTubers and something like this had never happened before. But there's no excuse for VShojo, it's a growing media company, it should be equipped to handle these kind of things and it should know how to conduct themselves. The fact they botched it this much shows how woefully mismanaged the company is.
 
This is the ideal time for Pippa to become the host of the VTuber Killstream and get all of these people on her stream to slapfight and yell at each other.
:cunningpepe:
>Pulls a Metokur
>Tries to host it
>Tries to let them all yell over each other
>But keeps saying "hey guys" to calm it down a bit and let the others have the chance to talk
>Leaves abruptly as they're still yelling at each other.

If only. Still is my favorite stream, despite the autism, gay ops shit, and how it took me a few years to realize what this shit was about.
 
Pretty sure they are at the point of multiple millions of yearly revenue now. When you get to that point, that reasoning starts to not hold for me.
Yeah if they making million+ dollars a year and don't have a in house, or on retainer lawyer to ask about this stuff. That's on them, especially since they apparently had time to hire "cyber security experts" but not call a lawyer.
 
Pretty sure they are at the point of multiple millions of yearly revenue now. When you get to that point, that reasoning starts to not hold for me.
Also those HR/PR people would be screaming, in no uncertain terms, that replying to a tweet with about how they, the talent, don't feel safe, might not be such a good idea.

I've been trying to sufficiently and shortly word a question to you and others and then you hit the nail on the head. Is it not possible they're all flawed (and some terrible) people in the past and even now? Edit: Also, that they may be flawed in different, non-competing ways in this? Sure people have a bias against both parties, but I ask you is there not reason to those bias and is there not merit to putting them under suspicion and criticism?

Both sides are dominated with a bunch of vain, attention seekers.

For sure, for me I watch a lot more Vshojo than I do nux, mostly Mel and Mouse, but the way they are handling it Vs Nux just makes me lean the other way, either way this is gonna end poorly and we are just here to watch.
 
This whole V drama is interesting but at the same time retarded tbh.

Like, I have no dogs in this fight (I guess I do like some of Vshojos talent) but I feel like if you know someone is impersonating your organization, regardless of their intent, you need to put out an APB on it immediately. I guess it's possible they didn't know until recently but regardless if they knew and didn't say anything that's fucked.

I think it's even worse in this case because the guy was doing it just to Swat people. Swatting has fucking killed in the past and if one of these chicks died because Vshojo didn't say anything, well, they'd be culpable in it imo.

I think they're just trying to demonize Nux now so they don't look like shit. Regardless I'd like to just get back to seeing people post about cute animu girls playing video games.
 

this broad is going to play jump king until she beats the game. good find @SoundWave Superior
Yeah she's just got partner, i found her while she was still just a vtweeter but she actually was pumping out vids so much better than 80% of the ENvytubers, also more cute bug girls too add with people like the moth of like 8000 models
 
If they actually hired an attorney, they hired a fucking moron.
they hired a cybersec firm. which means nothing without knowing their creds.
Yeah if they making million+ dollars a year and don't have a in house, or on retainer lawyer to ask about this stuff. That's on them, especially since they apparently had time to hire "cyber security experts" but not call a lawyer.
i was pegging these smaller companies at 500-700k in revenue. i mean you can have a company that pulls in 3-5 million in gross revenue and end up with 15-20k in profit at the end of the year.

Yeah she's just got partner, i found her while she was still just a vtweeter but she actually was pumping out vids so much better than 80% of the ENvytubers, also more cute bug girls too add with people like the moth of like 8000 models

she sounds little like uruka from Phase.
 
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