Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Meriasek]

This is it. People cry about overpopulation but the birth rates in most developed countries are already stagnant or falling, and the more educated and middle/upper class someone is the more likely they are to have only one or two children, if any at all. The overpopulation problem is coming out of shit-tier countries that can't even feed themselves but the west keeps sending aid to artificially prop them up. If someone really wanted to reduce the worlds population you don't even need a convoluted plan to poison everyone with a vaccine, just stop subsidising people having more babies than they can support.

I think the argument is more that those in the developed nations gobble up much more resources per capita than those in undeveloped nations, so it's more important to reduce the population of the developed states. "Reducing overpopulation" means "reducing consumption", and you can't really tell people that their standard of living is unnacceptable. If we're going by the conspiracy angle, it's much more reasonable that the pandemic and all its restrictions are a test for climate lockdowns. You got huge focus on collectivist thought, always talking about "solidarity", getting used to give up your personal freedom and lifestyle for the sake of others. The pandemic is a much more tangible threat than climate change, so it's ideal to train people towards collectivist thought with that. No need to limit western population, which can and will backfire hard once it comes out, when you can introduce a thought pattern that will make people happy and eager to just limit their own lifes. As long as it's all for the greater good...

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I think the argument is more that those in the developed nations gobble up much more resources per capita than those in undeveloped nations, so it's more important to reduce the population of the developed states. "Reducing overpopulation" means "reducing consumption", and you can't really tell people that their standard of living is unnacceptable. If we're going by the conspiracy angle, it's much more reasonable that the pandemic and all its restrictions are a test for climate lockdowns. You got huge focus on collectivist thought, always talking about "solidarity", getting used to give up your personal freedom and lifestyle for the sake of others. The pandemic is a much more tangible threat than climate change, so it's ideal to train people towards collectivist thought with that. No need to limit western population, which can and will backfire hard once it comes out, when you can introduce a thought pattern that will make people happy and eager to just limit their own lifes. As long as it's all for the greater good...

I'd argue that first worlders are already much more receptive to looking after their environment than people in developing countries. Yeah, "muh overconsumption" is a problem but encouraging the disposable income class to sit at home and have plastic crap delivered to their door every day is only exacerbating that. Unironically the way to reduce environmental damage is a "reject modernity, embrace tradition" approach with short, local supply lines and high quality products that will last a long time and can easily be repaired. No more chickens being raised, slaughtered, processed and packaged in four different countries to save a fifth of a cent per unit, no more clothes mass produced by enslaved Bangladeshi children, no more impossible to recycle single use plastics on everything for the sake of hygiene theatre.

How many billions of disposable face masks were dumped in the ocean in the past year? Imagine how much worse it'd be if people actually wore them for 15 minutes and then threw them away like we're supposed to.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Troons and CRT wouldn't be a depopulation bomb, not like tricking and then forcing an entire generation to partially sterilize themselves + give them permanent debilitating health problems would be. Troons take the west's best and brightest and destroy them utterly, making them AT BEST loyal footsoldiers to the cause (troons overwhelmingly support pedophilia far more than sane people), at WORST a member of the 41%. They win either way. CRT is just an attempt to accelerate and codify the woke anti-white academics they have been spreading for decades in masters and phd programs; I believe they saw the numbers of Zoomers rejecting radical leftist dogma and it freaked them out. They're SOOOO CLOSE to convincing us to kill ourselves so they can have their wonderful woke cultural revolution and the commie utopia their gender studies teachers promised them. Just a few more years of indoctrination, of getting blacks and whites to hate each other, to sabotage the economy while their allies setup bugmen ghettos to push people into. Soooooooo close.

This is true, but they still need that managerial class of whites since there aren't enough minority managers yet. Honestly, I don't think there ever will be. The average white Karen wants another white Karen as a coworker, not DeSean no matter how well-spoken he is. If you haven't worked it out yet, a lot of CRT is an in-group code the elite have latched on to identify each other (i.e., you better know every buzzword and its implications OR ELSE), and minorities often fail it because DeSean is still praising some homophobic/sexist rapper. It's essentially the White Man's Burden and wasn't meant for minorities to begin with but actually a perverse way to uphold the current world order which is ran by white/(((white))) bankers.

The managerial class is having kids. Not many, but eventually (around age 30-40) Karen hooks up with a simp and shits out a solitary Myckennzye or a Jaxxtynn who of course is indoctrinated from birth in the ways of his mother (often the simp is divorced) and entrusted to the schools to learn CRT and determine the proper gender of the child. Why would they kill their own next generation? Myckennzye or Jaxxtynn will be far more reliable footsoldiers than the myriad of children of gimmegrant Pedro or Ahmed because their parents are already fanatics of the world order.

That's why "the vaxx is a depopulation agent" is stupid. Nobody kills their most hardcore followers while sparing their enemies.

I think the argument is more that those in the developed nations gobble up much more resources per capita than those in undeveloped nations, so it's more important to reduce the population of the developed states. "Reducing overpopulation" means "reducing consumption", and you can't really tell people that their standard of living is unnacceptable. If we're going by the conspiracy angle, it's much more reasonable that the pandemic and all its restrictions are a test for climate lockdowns. You got huge focus on collectivist thought, always talking about "solidarity", getting used to give up your personal freedom and lifestyle for the sake of others. The pandemic is a much more tangible threat than climate change, so it's ideal to train people towards collectivist thought with that. No need to limit western population, which can and will backfire hard once it comes out, when you can introduce a thought pattern that will make people happy and eager to just limit their own lifes. As long as it's all for the greater good...

True, but these are the people who love economic growth at all cost and outsourcing shit to the cheapest economies which are developing nations like China or Vietnam. Developing nations take that message to heart and build polluting factories everywhere and don't give a fuck about the environment or the average person dropping dead by 50 from lung cancer from their polluted cities or workplace accidents. They want to keep the Third World poor, but know that by doing so they are increasing pollution, living standards, and yes, population, since a sweatshop worker consumes more than a subsistance farmer. This has been known since the 60s when the Club of Rome was first founded by like-minded oligarchs and their supporters.

Now yes, a lot of it definitely is a test for climate lockdowns and to increase collectivism, where people care less about living in a pod. I know "globohomo" is a stupid right-wing buzzword, but it really is what they want. They want to bring the West down to the same living standards as the Third World.

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

They've been milking Delta for a full year, most people don't realise it's the same as the Indian Variant. Maybe they'll just rename it again.

The vaccine passes are working well, now they're talking about restricting who you can have in your own home again (lol good luck with that) and making primary school children wear masks.

New Covid restrictions: home visits and hospitality are on the table

New limits on the number of people permitted to sit at tables indoors, caps on household visits and a reduction in capacity at live music venues are among the measures being discussed by the Government as it struggles to get the fourth wave of the coronavirus pandemic under control.

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That shit about restricting the # of people in private homes is the one thing that the French didn't cuck out about, if the enormous crowds (and no snitching neighbors) at 2 parties in my neighborhood during the 6pm curfew bullshit are any indication.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

• Aliens are coming and the jabs mark who is edible/who is "NOT edible".

Which is which? Asking for a friend...

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Can't a company just do the Japan thing and promote disloyal employees to chief toilet scrubbing executives? That is what I would do.

I get it that you can't fire people because they are muslims, fucking cucked and bluepilled, but what about promotions?

Depends, not everyone is a useless bureaucrat. Some of us actually have skills and knowledge that make us useful outside of paper pushing.

 

[Meriasek]

I'd argue that first worlders are already much more receptive to looking after their environment than people in developing countries. Yeah, "muh overconsumption" is a problem but encouraging the disposable income class to sit at home and have plastic crap delivered to their door every day is only exacerbating that. Unironically the way to reduce environmental damage is a "reject modernity, embrace tradition" approach with short, local supply lines and high quality products that will last a long time and can easily be repaired. No more chickens being raised, slaughtered, processed and packaged in four different countries to save a fifth of a cent per unit, no more clothes mass produced by enslaved Bangladeshi children, no more impossible to recycle single use plastics on everything for the sake of hygiene theatre.

How many billions of disposable face masks were dumped in the ocean in the past year? Imagine how much worse it'd be if people actually wore them for 15 minutes and then threw them away like we're supposed to.

Indeed. The actual goal isn't necessarily overconsumption, it's more getting the middle class under control. Reduce population, turn everyone into part-time farmers, that leaves too much time and opportunity on your own with your own thoughts. It embraces an individualism that is unwanted. Ideally, as all the Great Reset propaganda material shows, the middle class should have nothing and be fully dependent on the supply lines, with good opportunity to get scared every now and then that their comfort relies on their absolute obedience.
On the other hand, the pandemic restrictions are already going so far that riots are firing up in many places. They couldn't do climate lockdowns and further restrictions without sparking an absolute doozy of a shitstorm, and the timing needs to be right if they can allow the pandemic to go away in between.
Letting imagination run wild a bit, letting the pandemic go on another winter could have been to explore additional passport mechanisms with the vaccine, and restrictions based on various semi-arbitrary statuses. A continued pandemic also worsens the economic situation and provides a great explanation for worker shortages, inflation, and things being generally shit.
The timing is important, I guess; uncontrolled, people tend to build back after a few years of shit, and they start being optimistic and entrepeneur-y. Gotta create a situation and mindset where there are no opportunities and possibilities, and the only way to continue is to rely on the state.
Oh hey, sounds like welfare and a certain melanated population in the US.

 

[Mealy Mouth Spittle]

Troons and CRT wouldn't be a depopulation bomb, not like tricking and then forcing an entire generation to partially sterilize themselves + give them permanent debilitating health problems would be. Troons take the west's best and brightest and destroy them utterly, making them AT BEST loyal footsoldiers to the cause (troons overwhelmingly support pedophilia far more than sane people), at WORST a member of the 41%. They win either way.

CRT is just an attempt to accelerate and codify the woke anti-white academics they have been spreading for decades in masters and phd programs; I believe they saw the numbers of Zoomers rejecting radical leftist dogma and it freaked them out. They're SOOOO CLOSE to convincing us to kill ourselves so they can have their wonderful woke cultural revolution and the commie utopia their gender studies teachers promised them. Just a few more years of indoctrination, of getting blacks and whites to hate each other, to sabotage the economy while their allies setup bugmen ghettos to push people into. Soooooooo close.

Trooning out kids absolutely does affect fertility if they are put on puberty blockers as children. And there is a push to get more and more kids "gender affirming" care.

CRT, though, would only harm white fertility in that it would encourage white people to seek out non-white partners. Won't affect overall population numbers, but it could potentially impact the number of white people being born seeing as how being half white gets you automatically counted in the "other" category. Even liberal people think that 1 drop rule applies, apparently. After all the first black president was also still a white president (or at least half of his DNA was).

I personally think the vaccines are just part of the theater designed to slowly take away our freedoms. Problem -> reaction -> solution. Fear of death causes a lot of people to beg for authorities to protect them. Create a virus and release it (problem). People get scared and demand the government do something (reaction). Authorities get to implement the Great Reset or New World Order (solution).

I don't really think the vaccines will kill off massive amounts of people (or at least I hope not since I caved and got the shots). If they are using it to kill off people, it would be used to kill off the old and sick since they are of zero use to the elite. They need healthy young workers -- not people who drain money away from their bank accounts.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

If they wanted depopulation, they'd target blacks (which they have abortion for but blacks aren't being vaxxed to the levels they want). Like you probably would have to pay a decent sum for a vaxx in the US or some Western countries (Canada, UK, Sweden, etc.) now because the benevolent West would be sending them to Africa and India and the media would say how racist and privileged it is to want to get vaxxed now after you had all year.

Like this?

Awash in vaccine, now Canada plans to share with other countries. Is it too little, too late?

International Development Minister Karina Gould says Canada will take no more doses from the COVAX initiative for its own use.

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Bank of Canada governor says sending vaccines around the world helps the economy

The governor of the Bank of Canada pressed the case for COVID-19 vaccines to be sent to developing nations as part of a broader push to not only end the pandemic, but aid Canada's economic recovery and ease price pressures on consumer goods.

www.nationalobserver.com

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To speak to depopulation strategies:
-It's not hard to envision how forced vaccination plays out in the German Military: A hand-picked medical team is used to administer injections. Those of proven wokeness get saline injections, the deplorables get garbage. Why? Because who's most likely to cause headaches for a nation during any potential uprising? The normies, or the trained and armed members of the armed forces? Plus, the ensure the complicity of the armed forces in whatever they do in the future, what better way than to put them all on the health-by-subscription plan, then change the law so that civilians have to pay for their own vaccines while giving them for free to members of the military?

-Why depopulate the future instead of today? The only people in the west having children at this point are those on the right or controllable immigrants. Replacement theory is real. Remember when Canada accepted a bunch of Syrian Refugees a few years back? The majority of them were sent to Alberta, and to Calgary specifically. Upon arriving, these people are allowed to participate in elections, and they vote how they're told by whatever NGO is supporting them. Convenient they all turned up in time for an election. But Arabs are literate and quickly figure out what's up. That's why four years later we packed the country with Afghan refugees, and stuck them all in Calgary in time to vote before they shuffled off to some other place in the country. They were there long enough to install a suntan Karen as Mayor and ensure that the North-East part of the city elected a Liberal for their Member of Parliament. Similar things are happening in all western nations.

This is why CRT and gender theory are being injected into schools; to control the minds of the new youth. They're parents will figure out whats up within a single election cycle, but they're children will be brainwashed into a specific way of thinking. When welfare is transferred from the west to shit-holes, the peasants living their know where it came from and go to those countries, forever thankful and obedient to the government that brought them to the promised land. Ever notice how all the articles from "experts" pushing vaccines cite "Doctors" with foreign names?

People forget that only a few generations ago the whites in the west, particularly the US and Canada, were immigrants themselves who were conditioned by public education to become consumerist bugmen. The world isn't overpopulated, and the powers that be aren't worried that it will be. The thing that separates whites from perma-tanned is that small population that are freedom-minded. Same for the domestic sunburns. TPTB aren't concerned about overpopulation in the traditional meaning, they're concerned about people who aren't easily ruled over. UN agenda 2030 requires the establishment of a ruling class (the white elite) and a willingly subservient worker caste of mix-raced turd-men who do what they're told.

-Remember, the loudest about climate hysteria are the biggest hypocrites. TPTB just want to hedge their bets and secure their place in society by manipulating you into sacrificing YOUR standard of living so that they can maintain theirs. COVID is no different.

-This has also been their litmus test to determine how well their manipulation has worked. The same people who kvetch endlessly about discrimination and corporations and big pharma are the ones shivering in fear in their pods handing their fiat stimmy cash to Amazon and Disney, going outside only for their next vaxx-shot and thanking the government for turning their countries into the fourth reich. Australians are literally cheering for that faggot who has built concentration camps in his region, gleeful that the military is rounding up their neighbors and placing them in indefinite detention for merely being near someone who has a positive COVID test. Austrians are on their knees thanking the government for stopping single motorists to verify their vaccine status.


TPTB don't necessarily want depopulation, they want replacement population and an obedient populous that is forever dependent upon government benevolence. COVID gives them all of this. Crash global markets for a new global currency. Destroy trust in existing government structures so the goyim accept a global one. Gate-keep every avenue of commerce, and ultimately survival,with arbitrary id that can be turned off or altered at any time. Control their health with regular injections and condition them that this "is just how it is" from the start. Vaccines were just "approved" for five year olds. Fauci is already looking to start injecting infants sometime in 2022.

 

[borsabil]

Professional soccer players seem to be particularly prone to collapsing with heart problems.

Is it their diet? Are they over training? The stress of being paid millions to chase a ball around?

Whatever the reason these incidents seem to becoming a daily occurrence.

 

[chiobu]

Professional soccer players seem to be particularly prone to collapsing with heart problems.

Is it their diet? Are they over training? The stress of being paid millions to chase a ball around?

Whatever the reason these incidents seem to becoming a daily occurrence.

Wow, I didn't know of this incident and I browse r/soccer rather regularly. Just went to take a look and a post about this was locked, just like as the ones about Sergio Aguero who recently had to retire after they discovered that he had a heart problem. It's even more strange when you realize that he was at the end of his career at 33 years of age and they only diagnosed him recently. This is a guy who turned pro at 15.

Sergio Aguero to retire from professional football following heart scare​

The former Man City striker was diagnosed with a cardiac arrhythmia last month after suffering chest pains while playing for Barcelona

Sergio Aguero has told close friends he will retire from football after suffering heart problems, bringing an end to the glittering career of the Premier League’s most prolific foreign player.

The Argentinian, 33, was diagnosed with a cardiac arrhythmia last month after suffering chest pains while playing for Barcelona against Alaves during a La Liga match. It was just his fifth game for the Spanish club after arriving on a free transfer following a decade of winning trophies at Manchester City.

Barca initially announced that Aguero would not play for three months after tests were taken when he fell ill, during which time his health would be monitored. But Aguero has told those close to him that he will retire from playing.

Samir Nasri, his team-mate at the Etihad Stadium, was on Canal+ on French TV and revealed he received a message from Aguero confirming he will hang up his boots after 18 years playing senior football for Independiente, Atletico Madrid, City and Barca.

Barcelona have announced that Sergio Aguero will not play for three months after suffering chest pains against Alaves on Saturday.

Pep Guardiola led emotional tributes to Aguero at the end of last season when he left City after 10 years when he won five Premier League titles, securing their first in 2012 with his 94th-minute winner against QPR clinching first place on goal difference.

When he left for Barca as a free agent, he had scored 260 goals during his time at City, with 184 of them in the Premier League and only behind Alan Shearer, Wayne Rooney and Andy Cole in the all-time list.

He had agreed a two-year contract with Barca but suffered injury problems in pre-season which delayed his debut. The match against Alaves was his second start and he received treatment for several minutes on the pitch before being taken to hospital. On social media, Aguero said he was "well and in good spirits to face the recovery process".

Sergio Aguero to retire from professional football following heart scare

The former Man City striker was diagnosed with a cardiac arrhythmia last month after suffering chest pains while playing for Barcelona

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The most upvoted comments are people who expressed concerns over how such incidents are happening more often in recent times, and surprisingly the mods did not delete them.

 

[XANA]

Why is this happening though? It doesn't make sense, Vaccines should at worst be ineffective, not make things worse.



edit: I actually have a guess. A lot of these people were those who were super careful not to get the virus before and super hyped to get the vaccine to then move on with their lives. And so they are now less careful than most of those without the vaccine and are thus spreading it since the vaccine is as we know not very efficient in stoping spread.

Have you heard of the Hoskins effect? It's also called "Original Antigenic Sin", if you want to go for the fun-sounding name.

Although it is not quite fully understood, the premise behind it is that the antibodies present would be biased towards the version that was acquired first. Vaccinating against one specific strain is in fact detrimental because our antibodies would be primed towards that strain (specifically, their antigens) and ill-prepared against novel strains. The danger therein, is immunity against a strain may cause a worse immunological response when a novel strain infects the person due to the immune system having an impaired response.

Remember how "natural immunity" was disregarded by the media community at large and how the vaccines were pushed as the only reasonable way to acquire immunity? Well. They were wrong. Your immune system, analyzing bits and pieces of the (actual) virus it killed to try to build immunity against it, has more to work with. It's akin to a police sketch including the perp's distinct facial features, hairstyle, wonky teeth, etc., whereas the current mRNA-based lipid nanoparticle vaccines would have the police sketch equivalent of just the perp's hairstyle because the vaccine mRNA basically produces the spike proteins and nothing else. Thus, natural immunity trumps vaccine immunity.

What SARS-CoV-2 is doing right now is antigenic drift - accumulating mutations over time until the internal code has changed sufficiently to be considered a new version of the virus. This is different from antigenic shift, in which case two viruses mix their genetic code within a host cell to form a new virus that shares both "parent" virus' codes/capsid proteins.

Original Antigenic Sin has also been implicated in Dengue fever, if you want to read more about it.

 

[TheTrumanShow]

I've been googling about this subject before your post and most sources I can find actually claim that vaccines+natural immunity create a superior antibody response to either alone. Especially against newer variants.

For example: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...nfection-induced-immunity#What-the-team-found

He said: “For a long time, we’ve known that people [who have the infection], if they are subsequently vaccinated, will have much higher levels of antibodies than people who [have the infection] but are not vaccinated. Natural infection plus vaccination is better than natural infection alone.”

Also in regards to this effect that I knew noting about I found this:

The “original antigenic sin” and its relevance for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) vaccination

Imprinting of the specific molecular image of a given protein antigen into immunological memory is one of the hallmarks of immunity. A later contact w…

www.sciencedirect.com

It ends with "The study of Amanat as discussed above has shown that mRNA vaccination can induce a modest but significant increase in antibodies to the related seasonal β-coronavirus spike proteins of HuCoV-OC43 and HuCoV-HKU1 [20]. The cross-reactive epitopes recognized by the antibodies that bind SARS-CoV-2, HuCov-HKU1, and HuCoV-OC43 spikes could form the basis for future pan-β-coronavirus vaccines. The original antigenic sin thus could turn into a virtue."


So I would really like to see more studies that suggest its actually not good for you in the case of Covid 19 to be vaccinated. It really doesn't make much sense, the virus isn't mutating that fast and everything reported suggests vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalization to a certain degree.

 

[Just wandering]

Wow, I didn't know of this incident and I browse r/soccer rather regularly. Just went to take a look and a post about this was locked, just like as the ones about Sergio Aguero who recently had to retire after they discovered that he had a heart problem. It's even more strange when you realize that he was at the end of his career at 33 years of age and they only diagnosed him recently. This is a guy who turned pro at 15.

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The most upvoted comments are people who expressed concerns over how such incidents are happening more often in recent times, and surprisingly the mods did not delete them.

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Drawmyeconomic, a french youtuber did a video on it. They're a real increase in heart attack in 2021 but it too early to be sure of the vaccine is the cause

 

[borsabil]

I've been googling about this subject before your post and most sources I can find actually claim that vaccines+natural immunity create a superior antibody response to either alone. Especially against newer variants.

For example: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...nfection-induced-immunity#What-the-team-found

He said: “For a long time, we’ve known that people [who have the infection], if they are subsequently vaccinated, will have much higher levels of antibodies than people who [have the infection] but are not vaccinated. Natural infection plus vaccination is better than natural infection alone.”

Also in regards to this effect that I knew noting about I found this:

The “original antigenic sin” and its relevance for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) vaccination

Imprinting of the specific molecular image of a given protein antigen into immunological memory is one of the hallmarks of immunity. A later contact w…

www.sciencedirect.com

It ends with "The study of Amanat as discussed above has shown that mRNA vaccination can induce a modest but significant increase in antibodies to the related seasonal β-coronavirus spike proteins of HuCoV-OC43 and HuCoV-HKU1 [20]. The cross-reactive epitopes recognized by the antibodies that bind SARS-CoV-2, HuCov-HKU1, and HuCoV-OC43 spikes could form the basis for future pan-β-coronavirus vaccines. The original antigenic sin thus could turn into a virtue."


So I would really like to see more studies that suggest its actually not good for you in the case of Covid 19 to be vaccinated. It really doesn't make much sense, the virus isn't mutating that fast and everything reported suggests vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalization to a certain degree.

The production of neutrailising antibodies is a response to infection. This can never provide long term immunity to mutable RNA viruses like SARS Cov-2. Mammalian immune systems prioritise memory immunity as it's more efficient. From everything to the common cold, seasonal flu and Covid-19 T-cell immunity is literally all that matters. Neutralising antibodies from RNA viral exposure will almost always dissipate with time, this is entirely to be expected.

So the questions we should be asking isn't whether or not the vaccines produce high antibody titres post jab, we know they do, but rather how long those tires will maintain serconversion and more importantly whether or not the human immune system is able to respond to the S-protein exposure with strong B-cell recall and T-cell immunity.

What we know is that vaccine derived immunity is of a very short duration. Antibody titres don't fall away gradually, as they do with natural infection, but collapse on a compounding basis by 40% per month. This strongly suggests that there is either no or very weak B-cell recall. We also know that the vaccinated are at least as prone to becoming infected as the non vaccinated, which can only be happening if the vaccines are either not inoculating against the currently circulating virus or again there is no B-cell recall and so the vaccinated are unable to produce neutralising antibodies when they become seronegative and are challenged by the virus.

TLDR natural infection is the only way we will get out of our current situation. Constantly jabbing young, healthy people with leaky imperfect vaccines will, at best, provide some short term disease prevention with the risk that the vaccinated will be unable to respond to viral infection with a proper and broad immune response. The data coming out of the UK and Israel strongly suggests this is exactly what is happening and if it is Covid-19 will continue to present as a major public health issue for many years to come. We need to stop injecting young people and children with these vaccines. We need to allow them to contract Covid and recover. This is the only way we will achieve proper herd immunity and it's also the only way the virus itself will be challenged to mutate into something far more benign and become just another annoying circulating cold bug.

 

[chiobu]

Drawmyeconomic, a french youtuber did a video on it. They're a real increase in heart attack in 2021 but it too early to be sure

I've only a semester's knowledge of French, but it seems that he's talking about the risks of vaccination if you're a professional athlete? For sure there's a very visible increase in such incidents if we're just considering footballers. There was the incident in Euro 2020 that was televised throughout the world in July, and since then we have another two similar cases involving high profile players that I can think of.

Euro 2020: Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest on pitch, doctors say, as he 'sends greetings to teammates' from hospital

Some fear that the former Tottenham star may not be able to play football again, given the severity of the incident.

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These are players at the top of their game, so one can only wonder if it happens to less prominent athletes and whether they report it. I've been watching the game almost all my life and indeed such incidents happen to top players, but maybe one or two every decade?

 

[borsabil]

I've only a semester's knowledge of French, but it seems that he's talking about the risks of vaccination if you're a professional athlete? For sure there's a very visible increase in such incidents if we're just considering footballers. There was the incident in Euro 2020 that was televised throughout the world in July, and since then we have another two similar cases involving high profile players that I can think of.

Euro 2020: Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest on pitch, doctors say, as he 'sends greetings to teammates' from hospital

Some fear that the former Tottenham star may not be able to play football again, given the severity of the incident.

news.sky.com

Euro 2020: Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest on pitch, doctor…

archived 25 Nov 2021 19:06:52 UTC

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These are players at the top of their game, so one can only wonder if it happens to less prominent athletes and whether they report it. I've been watching the game almost all my life and indeed such incidents happen to top players, but maybe one or two every decade?

I know 5 people who experienced sudden onset chest pain post jab. Only one of them went to hospital and she was fobbed off with a basic enzyme screen and ECG and told to go home and take Paracetamol.

How many people are contracting mild myocarditis or pericarditis post vaccination and either ignoring it or being told by their doctors to rest up and take painkillers? Probably a lot of fucking people. With pro-athletes it might be even worse. It's not so much they're paranoid about their health they're paranoid that they'll be told they can't play their sport and a diagnosis of myocarditis might be the end of their career, so yes I can see them ignoring symptoms.

In Australia we have AFL as our main sport. It's the most aerobically challenging team sport on the planet with players running up to 30km in a game. The next would be soccer. ALL of them have been forced to take the vaccine or else be fired on the spot. The season is due to start in March,

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I've only a semester's knowledge of French, but it seems that he's talking about the risks of vaccination if you're a professional athlete? For sure there's a very visible increase in such incidents if we're just considering footballers. There was the incident in Euro 2020 that was televised throughout the world in July, and since then we have another two similar cases involving high profile players that I can think of.

Euro 2020: Christian Eriksen suffered cardiac arrest on pitch, doctors say, as he 'sends greetings to teammates' from hospital

Some fear that the former Tottenham star may not be able to play football again, given the severity of the incident.

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These are players at the top of their game, so one can only wonder if it happens to less prominent athletes and whether they report it. I've been watching the game almost all my life and indeed such incidents happen to top players, but maybe one or two every decade?

That reminds me of another article involving a professional althlete.

Sheffield United Star John Fleck Collapses on Pitch During Tuesday Match and Rushed to the Hospital - TV Live Feed Cut when Announcer Asks If He's Had COVID Jab

Sheffield United star John Fleck collapsed on the pitch during Tuesday night’s match and rushed to the hospital. Play was halted for 11 minutes as Fleck was treated on the field. The soccer star was given oxygen on the field and then taken off the field in a stretcher. He spent the night in the…

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Sheffield United star John Fleck collapsed on the pitch during Tuesday night’s match and rushed to the hospital. Play was halted for 11 minutes as Fleck was treated on the field. The soccer star was given oxygen on the field and then taken off the field in a stretcher. He spent the night in the hospital.

The live feed was cut after one of the announcers asked, “I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the COVID vaccine?”

Btw, Dr. Fauxi/Fraudci, one day or another you'll see that, whetever you like it or not.

There Are Now 365 Studies that Prove the Efficacy of Ivermectin and HCQ in Treating COVID-19 -- Will Anyone Confront Fauci and The Medical Elites on Their Deception?

There have now been 67 Ivermectin COVID-19 controlled studies that show a 67% improvement in COVID patients. There have been 298 Hydroxychloroquine studies that show a 64% improvement in patients for COVID-19 patients. Despite the science, Dr. Fauci and the medical elites have blocked the use of...

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Despite the science, Dr. Fauci and the medical elites have blocked the use of these effective treatments for coronavirus patients.

Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccines, accused Dr. Fauci and others of lying and causing the death of over 500,000 Americans by preventing HCQ and Ivermectin, and other treatments from COVID-19 patients.

Dr. Malone is right. It is well documented that Dr. Fauci and top US doctors conspired to disqualify and condemn hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment.
Millions died as a result of this.

There have been 298 Hydroxychloroquine studies that show a 64% improvement in patients for COVID-19 patients.

Despite the science, Dr. Fauci and the medical elites have blocked the use of these effective treatments for coronavirus patients.

Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccines, accused Dr. Fauci and others of lying and causing the death of over 500,000 Americans by preventing HCQ and Ivermectin, and other treatments from COVID-19 patients.

Dr. Malone is right. It is well documented that Dr. Fauci and top US doctors conspired to disqualify and condemn hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment.
Millions died as a result of this.

As TGP reported earlier — It wasn’t just Fauci but all of the top US medical leaders who were in on the hydroxychloroquine lie.

***For more, click here for TGP’s exclusive interview with Dr. Abraham Zelenko on the benefits of hydroxychloroquine***

Dr. Meryl Nass, MD, broke this story in The Defender. According to Dr. Nass, the top health officials were all in on the conspiracy against hydroxychloroquine.

 

[chiobu]

I know 5 people who experienced sudden onset chest pain post jab. Only one of them went to hospital and she was fobbed off with a basic enzyme screen and ECG and told to go home and take Paracetamol.

How many people are contracting mild myocarditis or pericarditis post vaccination and either ignoring it or being told by their doctors to rest up and take painkillers? Probably a lot of fucking people. With pro-athletes it might be even worse. It's not so much they're paranoid about their health they're paranoid that they'll be told they can't play their sport and a diagnosis of myocarditis might be the end of their career, so yes I can see them ignoring symptoms.

In Australia we have AFL as our main sport. It's the most aerobically challenging team sport on the planet with players running up to 30km in a game. The next would be soccer. ALL of them have been forced to take the vaccine or else be fired on the spot. The season is due to start in March,

Over here they tell us not to exercise for 2 weeks post vax, and we had to stay at the vax center for half an hour for observation.

Vaccinated persons who received the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty or Moderna vaccines, in particular adolescents and young persons, are advised to avoid strenuous physical activities such as running, weightlifting, competitive sports, or playing ball games for two weeks after their first and second vaccination doses, as a precautionary measure.

MOH | FAQs - Post-vaccination Matters

Ministry of Health (MOH) is an innovative, people-centred organisation, committed to medical excellence, the promotion of good health, the reduction of illness and access to good and affordable healthcare for all Singaporeans, appropriate to their needs.

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We had a 16 year old kid suffer a cardiac arrest but they're blaming the weightlifting and supplements (AFAIK they didn't say what)

Teen suffers cardiac arrest after weightlifting session 6 days after first Covid-19 jab​

SINGAPORE - A 16-year-old youth collapsed following a weightlifting session six days after his first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty Covid-19 vaccine.

In a statement on Monday (July 5), the Ministry of Health said that the teenager is currently in critical condition in the intensive care unit at the National University Hospital (NUH).

He received his first dose of the vaccine on June 27, and was assessed by trained healthcare personnel to be suitable for vaccination at the time, said a ministry spokesman.

The teen was observed on-site for about 30 minutes following his vaccination and was well during the time.

According to the spokesman, the teenager was also well for the following five days after his vaccination.

On July 3, he went to the gym to lift weights. The spokesman added that the teen trained with "very heavy weights which were above his body weight".

He collapsed at home later that morning, and was taken to the emergency department at Khoo Teck Puat Hospital, which alerted the ministry to the incident.

He was transferred to NUH later that evening.

MOH's spokesman said the ministry is currently in contact with the medical team at NUH that is providing close medical care for the patient.

"The preliminary diagnosis of his condition is an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. Clinical and laboratory tests are in progress to understand the underlying cause," said the spokesman.

He added that MOH will work with the medical team in NUH to determine if the incident might be linked to the teen's Covid-19 vaccination.

This investigation will include a thorough consideration of whether there was acute severe myocarditis, which is severe inflammation of the heart muscles affecting the heart function.

The expert committee on Covid-19 vaccination will also monitor the outcome of this investigation.

In the meantime, following a review of local and overseas data, the committee and the Health Sciences Authority (HSA) recommended on Monday that people should avoid strenuous physical activity after receiving either of their mRNA Covid-19 vaccination doses.

This is an update from the committee's previous advisory on June 11, which recommended that those vaccinated should avoid strenuous physical activity for one week only after their second dose of the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines.

MOH said this review took place independently of the incident involving the 16-year-old, and that it supports the recommendations.

In a separate release on Monday, the committee said that during the one-week period, those who had received their jabs should seek medical attention promptly if they develop chest pain, shortness of breath or abnormal heartbeats.

All doctors should pay particular attention to patients showing such signs and symptoms after vaccination, added the committee.

The committee noted that as at June 30, HSA had received 12 reports of myocarditis and pericarditis occurring in people following their vaccinations with mRNA Covid-19 vaccines.

Pericarditis is the inflammation of tissue surrounding the heart.

Five of the cases occurred in adults aged 30 years old and above. Seven of the cases involved males below the age of 30, which the committee noted is higher than expected for this age group, based on background incidence rates.

HSA said in a third separate statement that while half the cases reported had occurred after the second dose of their vaccination, it had received six reports of cases that occurred after the first dose.

"All the cases in the younger age group responded well to treatment and had recovered or were discharged well from hospital," said HSA.

But the committee cautioned that while this is the case, it is possible that myocarditis may be aggravated by factors or strenuous activities that may affect the heart.

It added that anyone diagnosed with myocarditis after taking an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine should not receive further doses of such vaccines.

Teen suffers cardiac arrest after weightlifting session 6 days after first Covid-19 jab

People urged to avoid strenuous activity for a week after both doses of mRNA vaccines. . Read more at straitstimes.com.

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The government here very rarely pay out for vaccine incidents, often saying that there were other underlying issues, but they paid out for this kid, so I wonder how bad it was.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

I swear one of these days im going to suffer cardiac arrest reading about all of these mongoloids doubling down on insisting there's any benevolent reason whatsoever to expose the young ( anyone really, but especially the young ) to these injections.