What would it take for Europeans to procreate? - With white 18+ year old women

People build families when they can look for a purpose beyond their own enjoyment, but Europeans don't believe in any transcendental value - you are born, you have fun, you "make your own choices", you die. Children are both occasionally very much not fun, they force you into maturity, and they expose you by necessity to how much you are not in control.

Every time they get sick, youre anxious; when they grow independent enough that they can make their own mistakes, you pray they don't suffer serious consequences. They grow, and you get old. They cry at night, you have to figure out what's going on.

From the western perspective, the only reason to have children is to satisfy an inborn need, but there are so many ways to distract yourself from it, and they come with fewer strings attached, that eventually the need for reproduction in westerners goes the way of the panda's. And then you get a handful of people still having a single child, and many more enjoying the DINK lifestyle and showcasing to everyone on the fence that they are having much more fun.

Europeans will die out, and it's out of people's hands.
Man, this. Just this.

Makes me glad in the US we still have a huge population of people that wanna settle down and have families. Its obviously shrinking as well, but not nearly as much.
 
It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of necessary skills.

With the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present Gross National Product within say, twenty years.

Now this would necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship as far as men were concerned. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race.

I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious...service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
 
It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of necessary skills.

With the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present Gross National Product within say, twenty years.

Now this would necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship as far as men were concerned. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race.

I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious...service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, doctor
 
It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of necessary skills.

With the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present Gross National Product within say, twenty years.

Now this would necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship as far as men were concerned. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race.

I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious...service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
Where do I sign up?
 
Just reverse the decade long measures that were put in place:

(yes it is a @Lemmingwise re-iterates the jaffe memo day)

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Also tell white people that they're racist and anti-environment if they don't have kids. Those seem to work well to persuade people.
 
Every time I talk to someone about having kids some day it always breaks down to "Oh well but we can't afford that". That seems to be at least a good part of the issue.
It's just an easy excuse though.
Just reverse the decade long measures that were put in place:

(yes it is a @Lemmingwise re-iterates the jaffe memo day)

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Also tell white people that they're racist and anti-environment if they don't have kids. Those seem to work well to persuade people.
I don't know how many of those were implemented in the EU, looking at graphs Europe has been below replacement rate since the 1980's, way before the globohomo asserted control.
 
Better cost of living and resurgence of many conservative values regarding marriage and raising children (marriage isn’t supposed to be fun, it’s supposed to be stable). Ofc this will take the world ending to happen.

Most likely the state will start growing embryos in vats and the Kamala Harris of the decade will get to customize the genetics of the next generation while the concept of the family vanishes from common knowledge.
 
I don't know how many of those were implemented in the EU, looking at graphs Europe has been below replacement rate since the 1980's, way before the globohomo asserted control
The pill has been free in the netherlands since 1972.

This is one the list of the 1967 on the right side: contraceptive to be available to all.

The cultural element and availability of abortion is also notable in what was at the time still a predominantly christian nation. There were huge protests against this; but you know how media control can make people do anything.

Leftist journalist from the same time have in recent years (after long careers) admitted how much they falsely depicted for example Janmaat, which led to the terrorist attack that caused the man's wife to end up in a wheelchair. I don't think it's unlikely that they depicted things in regards to abortion in similarly warped light to make people swallow it, despite being against the sensibilities of the day.

Availability of abortion is also available on the right side. Of course the left side is more about the cultural factors that lead into not even needing to worry about the right side of the graph; people will demand it for themselves even if not offered once they swallow those cultural ideas.
 
Undo feminism, secularism, and liberalism. Muslims, Mormons, and the Amish all have high birth rates because women stay in the household where they belong taking care of kids who grow up knowing that they'll be ostracized at best if they don't get married and have children of their own.
 
the only way to fix this is to fix the women which is impossible they are to easily manipulated by social pressure. either way it’s over for whites, the arabs and the blacks get to take what we built and run it into the ground and that’s ok. the transhumanist future the elites are building doesn’t include the third world. al of these groups from the WEF to planned parenthood have a long history eugenics and i don’t believe they’ve given up those values they just want to get rid of whites first because we are psychologically very weak people prone to self hatred and suicide.
 
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Undo feminism, secularism, and liberalism. Muslims, Mormons, and the Amish all have high birth rates because women stay in the household where they belong taking care of kids who grow up knowing that they'll be ostracized at best if they don't get married and have children of their own.
And unlike the myth women believe, most of them would be a lot happier too. You see a friend who becomes a mother and they just transform into a yes, tired, but also happier person most of the time.

In this sense I am more darwinist than christian, in that we find fulfillment in fulfilling our biological destiny.
 
Tough times, poverty + loose governance, tight demographic/cultural tensions. Religious sects & a general sense of purpose?

For instance, the Serbs in Kosovo have an above-average birthrate due to their precarious condition, and so do the Albanians in North Macedonia. The Catholics in North Ireland seem to be out-breeding the Protestants, even as the birthrates in Ireland itself has plummeted.

Laestadians in Finland (much like the LDS and Amish) also had a high fertility rate until recently. Some Orthodox priests have larger families, as do many Israelis.

Ultimately, maybe one might say that society is like a tree, without winds to shake it and strengthen its wood, the tree gradually weakens as it grows?
The West can't just deliberately engineer a crises to get citizens to get it on now, can they?
The other option would be to fire up the firing squads and then RETVRN to Monke.
 
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And unlike the myth women believe, most of them would be a lot happier too. You see a friend who becomes a mother and they just transform into a yes, tired, but also happier person most of the time.

In this sense I am more darwinist than christian, in that we find fulfillment in fulfilling our biological destiny.
I'd argue that most religions are naturally Darwinistic because the ones that lasted for any length of time did so because their structure was conducive to societal stability.
 
The West can't just deliberately engineer a crises to get citizens to get it on now, can they?
The other option would be to fire up the firing squads and then RETVRN to Monke.
Not sure, the majority of the mainstream population is demoralized now.

The future of the West will emerge from its more fertile subgroups, whatever they might be.
 
Most likely the state will start growing embryos in vats and the Kamala Harris of the decade will get to customize the genetics of the next generation while the concept of the family vanishes from common knowledge.
I see you’ve finally gotten around to reading Brave New World. That book terrifies me to this day, but I also have to remind myself that in spite of globohomo, humanity isn’t necessarily a monolith, and just because one society would adopt that technology (ethical objections notwithstanding), doesn’t mean another will on the other end of the continent. Maybe you haven’t touched much grass lately, but if there’s anyone unironically advocating for baby factories and eliminating the family unit, they’re a very small minority of disconnected academics who have no idea what the average person thinks or wants. I guarantee you if the average person was allowed to own a home without becoming slaves to the bank for the rest of their lives in the process, more people would be starting families.

Also LMAO if you think Kamala Harris is gonna be allowed anywhere near the reins of power after this past year. Choose a better applicant for neoliberal dictator.

I swear, the blackpills from y’all are exhausting sometimes.
 
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