Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

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  • The US Trucking Crisis of 2021 works fine

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It's been like that the last few years now, Cyber monday as well. the discounts are literally just normal stingy as fuck "sales" for overpriced stuff now that puts it down to what the price would normally be without "inflation". Like wooow you marked shit that was 10 dollars up to 15 dollars only to have your yearly 1 time special sale mark it back down to 10? The shit you do all year long anyways? Yeah fuck you.


Seems like a crafty chinaman scalper using shipping as the majority of the price, shit happens a lot. Unless this isn't that in which case why the fuck is the shipping $75?? I keep seeing shit that ships dirt cheap or free from china, especially right now.
maybe we're looking at different things. game pass $100 for 3 years (all signs point to this being the last year for that) porn sites were offering up lifetime deals for the same price as 2 years normally, way more combos and free subs when buying crap, like free amazon prime for a year with the purchase of some item in 2019 that basically meant buying a year of prime and getting a high quality piece of tech for free. giftcards out the ass if you shopped at like any retail site. i was getting 50% bonus on any gift cards purchased a year or two ago. lots of cruises and airlines were offering first class for coach prices,etc.

I guess its because this time last year everyone was expecting their companies to not be around in 2 years, now they're in the "lets cut back" phase of a 10 year decline into bankrupcy
 
Unless this isn't that in which case why the fuck is the shipping $75?? I keep seeing shit that ships dirt cheap or free from china, especially right now.
AliExpress used to have regular registered international airmail as a shipping option for practically everything, which was slow but dirt cheap. But ever since the Coofening, passenger planes that happen to also transport airmail in spare cargo hold room have drastically sparsened, and now that's just not a viable option.

So sellers are now resorting to using random cheapo logistics companies like SunYou that ping-pong around the entire globe flat earth for anything like under $4 or about the size of a postage stamp, and expensive FedEx/UPS/DHL for anything else. Which is just ridiculous.
 
I can't find a strike or protest mega thread so I'll post there here:




If I see any more I'll post them.
 
Taxes must've risen again without me noticing because when I went to check out with some shit online it added a whole 6 dollars tax and wanted 8 dollars for shipping which weirdly brought the price somehow to $80 which was nearly half of the actual things cost. Not sure if that's tied to the crisis shit or something else but it's weird and I can't afford things right now as a result. this was not tied to a seller specific thing this is legit just things being shitty.
 
I just want to take a moment to scream into the internet over how insane overseas shipping rates have gotten now that regular, bog-standard airmail ain't a thing anymore.

An electronic component, just the one I need, at the reasonable price of $17 and oh look FedEx is the only option and shipping is $75 REEEEEEEEE

Goddamn it, China, it's the size of a playing card, just staple it to a carrier pigeon.

China would probably have no problem doing that. You might even get a bonus recipe for turning the pigeon into a penis hardening soup.

I can't find a strike or protest mega thread so I'll post there here:




If I see any more I'll post them.

Can we please just make it legal to run these extinction rebellion retards over? Just drive the Amazon trucks right over them.
 
China would probably have no problem doing that. You might even get a bonus recipe for turning the pigeon into a penis hardening soup.



Can we please just make it legal to run these extinction rebellion retards over? Just drive the Amazon trucks right over them.

I so hope they rope themselves when the supply chain has a week of soy milk shortage. Not in minecraft.
 
Since its relevant to anxieties over supply chains etc I'll chime in with this re: dog food and making your own to supplement or cover for shortages -

1. Anyone making the argument that dogs are carnivores because wolves are strict carnivores is retarded. Wolves are primarily carnivorous but absolutely do supplement their diet with shrubs and veggies if they are available. Also dogs are separated by wolves by enough to shrink them down to fucking purse size, does anyone really believe nutritional needs wouldn't change in that time?

2. Not all dog diets should be the same. Try to tailor your dogs meals to what they're doing and what they are. Slight PLing but I have two different breeds of dogs. My large "sled dog" prefers to get carrots, apples, red meat and chicken, long grain rice and bananas when I can get them. Lots of protein and high energy foods because he runs and is active a lot. My rat dog is much more sedentary and prefers just laying around, and has GI problems when he eats certain things. So he mostly gets chicken, rice, beans, peas and apples. And these are things dogs will love to eat, you just have to break them from eating kibble all the time. A lot of people give their dogs fish and tbh I've thought about giving the sled dog go some trout but Im weird about fish bones I don't want to risk them choking on one. Turkey is a seasonal treat for them that they love as well but remember to cook your dogs their own poultry without using salt or herbs. OH and if you can find them cheap in the store, plain boiled eggs can be a good treat for them but don't do it too often because cholesterol etc.

Most commercial kibble is actually horrible for use as the only source of food for dogs. It's loaded with corn and empty calories and fats and not near enough proteins or other vitamins and minerals.
The problem is that dogs who are raised on kibble will sometimes refuse anything else because to them if tastes great and is fattening. If you had a choice between eating your favorite pizza every day for life or eating new things in a balanced diet, and your brain was the size of a walnut, you might make the same type of choice. It doesn't take that long either and once they get accustomed to it they will want the veggies too. My rat dog actually picks out the green beans more than the chicken sometimes.

3. How this ties into global supply issues? Well, it presents a problem for a lot of people because they don't have the option to supplement store bought food. I strongly recommend researching some dog safe fruits and veggies and starting your own mini gardens. For meat you do have to be careful about hunting or trapping for it too, ALWAYS cook it like you would for a human, it sounds dumb but a house dog is going to be just as vulnerable to intestinal parasites and diseases as you would be when eating game.

4. Make use of coconut oil and pumpkin and stock up on it. Dogs can eat both of them in pure form and it will help with digestion, worms, stomach upset and constipation in place of medications. You can bake or cook pumpkin and I think they can even eat the seeds if you cook them soft enough and its good nutritionally as well.
 
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It's been like that the last few years now, Cyber monday as well. the discounts are literally just normal stingy as fuck "sales" for overpriced stuff now that puts it down to what the price would normally be without "inflation". Like wooow you marked shit that was 10 dollars up to 15 dollars only to have your yearly 1 time special sale mark it back down to 10? The shit you do all year long anyways? Yeah fuck you.


Seems like a crafty chinaman scalper using shipping as the majority of the price, shit happens a lot. Unless this isn't that in which case why the fuck is the shipping $75?? I keep seeing shit that ships dirt cheap or free from china, especially right now.
buying anything online from USA is the same. tiny $5 item with 75 euro shipping plus taxes and import export charges. even more is ebay global shipping. fortunately USA doesnt make anything I want and there is always a seller on aliexpress/alibaba who charges better fees/discounts/EU warehouse.
 
China is imposing seven week long mandatory quarantines for any sailor returning overseas. Crew changes with foreign seafarers are banned. To work around these restrictions, ships are being rerouted, increasing shipping delays, will probably have an "an accumulative impact on the supply chain and cause real disruptions".

Merry Christmas, y'all.
 
China is imposing seven week long mandatory quarantines for any sailor returning overseas. Crew changes with foreign seafarers are banned. To work around these restrictions, ships are being rerouted, increasing shipping delays, will probably have an "an accumulative impact on the supply chain and cause real disruptions".

Merry Christmas, y'all.
China really is doing a whole "you're stuck in here with me" routine at this point. i guess they figured a majority of their population knows what its like to starve so they'll shake out better than the whites if the global economy collapses. we got another 4 months of shortages at this point.

politically it seems the dems are planning on shit suddenly going better by summer of 2022. the midterms must look scary bad
 
China really is doing a whole "you're stuck in here with me" routine at this point. i guess they figured a majority of their population knows what its like to starve so they'll shake out better than the whites if the global economy collapses. we got another 4 months of shortages at this point.

politically it seems the dems are planning on shit suddenly going better by summer of 2022. the midterms must look scary bad
No, they are planning on things getting so bad that "oops, we can't hold an election right now". Or at least, no in-person balloting and mail-in ballots only, with the mail so slow that they can get a friendly judge to drag out the ballot receiving period as long as they need to print all the fake ballots they need.
 
I can't find a strike or protest mega thread so I'll post there here:




If I see any more I'll post them.

You're always welcome in the thread, mate. I personally liked the articles, and strikes are just a sort of labor shortage, so I think it fits!

so are things easing up? Getting worse?

The port backups are down from a peak of 80+ ships waiting to 70 or so, but that's about where things were at when this all started. I've gathered everything in China shuts down for the Lunar New Year, so they might be able to clear the port backlogs, but it's likely to go back to being bad again because none of the underlying problems have been addressed.

Also, winter is going to be very cold and snow may leave some portions of the US cut off from supply deliveries. I'd say we're stuck with this into 2022, and maybe even until 2023. There's no reason to expect things to go back to normal soon.
 
Since its relevant to anxieties over supply chains etc I'll chime in with this re: dog food and making your own to supplement or cover for shortages -

1. Anyone making the argument that dogs are carnivores because wolves are strict carnivores is retarded. Wolves are primarily carnivorous but absolutely do supplement their diet with shrubs and veggies if they are available. Also dogs are separated by wolves by enough to shrink them down to fucking purse size, does anyone really believe nutritional needs wouldn't change in that time?

2. Not all dog diets should be the same. Try to tailor your dogs meals to what they're doing and what they are. Slight PLing but I have two different breeds of dogs. My large "sled dog" prefers to get carrots, apples, red meat and chicken, long grain rice and bananas when I can get them. Lots of protein and high energy foods because he runs and is active a lot. My rat dog is much more sedentary and prefers just laying around, and has GI problems when he eats certain things. So he mostly gets chicken, rice, beans, peas and apples. And these are things dogs will love to eat, you just have to break them from eating kibble all the time. A lot of people give their dogs fish and tbh I've thought about giving the sled dog go some trout but Im weird about fish bones I don't want to risk them choking on one. Turkey is a seasonal treat for them that they love as well but remember to cook your dogs their own poultry without using salt or herbs. OH and if you can find them cheap in the store, plain boiled eggs can be a good treat for them but don't do it too often because cholesterol etc.

Most commercial kibble is actually horrible for use as the only source of food for dogs. It's loaded with corn and empty calories and fats and not near enough proteins or other vitamins and minerals.
The problem is that dogs who are raised on kibble will sometimes refuse anything else because to them if tastes great and is fattening. If you had a choice between eating your favorite pizza every day for life or eating new things in a balanced diet, and your brain was the size of a walnut, you might make the same type of choice. It doesn't take that long either and once they get accustomed to it they will want the veggies too. My rat dog actually picks out the green beans more than the chicken sometimes.

3. How this ties into global supply issues? Well, it presents a problem for a lot of people because they don't have the option to supplement store bought food. I strongly recommend researching some dog safe fruits and veggies and starting your own mini gardens. For meat you do have to be careful about hunting or trapping for it too, ALWAYS cook it like you would for a human, it sounds dumb but a house dog is going to be just as vulnerable to intestinal parasites and diseases as you would be when eating game.

4. Make use of coconut oil and pumpkin and stock up on it. Dogs can eat both of them in pure form and it will help with digestion, worms, stomach upset and constipation in place of medications. You can bake or cook pumpkin and I think they can even eat the seeds if you cook them soft enough and its good nutritionally as well.
Something to add is that many people feed their dogs X and are like ‘My dog loves X!’ as if it’s some sort of indication that it’s good for them. Humans love donuts, that doesn’t mean they should eat them.

Regarding raw meat, vegetables and flour cause more foodborne illness than meat (and that’s even with the popularity of sushi). Nothing is safe, but I do believe the risks of foodborne illness are grossly overstated. Remember the people that tell us to overcook our meat are the same people who tell us the vaccine is safe and effective and that Ivermectin doesn’t work. I do agree with you on wild game however. I believe hunters freeze their meat before consuming to reduce the likelihood of parasitic infection, though I am not a hunter myself. There is absolutely no detriment to freezing meat before consuming it.
 
So how fucked are we once the governments starts their overreaction to the dreaded Omicron strain that's getting hyped like an MCU movie? Are the lockdowns going to be used to sacrifice some parts of the supply chain in exchange of clearing the backlog in others?

We can all expect Omicron (formerly Nu and Xi but those didn't test market well, especially not in China) to last through 2022 since Democrats have a lot of elections to steal next year.
 
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Regarding raw meat, vegetables and flour cause more foodborne illness than meat (and that’s even with the popularity of sushi). Nothing is safe, but I do believe the risks of foodborne illness are grossly overstated.
well bacterial contermination can always happen, but thats mostly a problem for minced for sliced meat, not the big cheap soup chunks you give your dogs.


I believe hunters freeze their meat before consuming to reduce the likelihood of parasitic infection, though I am not a hunter myself. There is absolutely no detriment to freezing meat before consuming it.
and stock up on ivermectin, that stuff kills parasites like crazy.
 
So I will wrote from perspective of one of the biggest cities in my part of former eastern block (now part of EU):

- nearly all kind of food have giant prices and they still increase - this is partially eased by EU economics,
- nearly all kind of electronic equipment is in high prices (e.g. used and refurbed Dell E6320 notebook is now priced nearly 180-200 USD in local currency, few years ago in was in range 50-70 USD), new computers are priced as hell - some effect is that in Europe was popular to send kids into e-learning from homes in the pandemic,
- all fuels at the ATH in consumer prices,
- prices of EUR, USD, CHF and GBP in smaller european currencies are high, but still in normal prices (near the ATH, but most of small european currencies (NOK, HUF, other currencies in non-eurozone countries like Romania) didn't break ATL in relation to global currencies. It is strange, but ukrainian hrywna is getting more and more priced in relation to USD and EUR event that many people in Europe, governments and so one are nearly sure that war with Russia is coming in weeks.
- medic pesonel, medic supplies and so one are low and going to be in my opinnion in critical levels after winter - some personel changed his jobs, some was died on COVID-19, some migrated to other european countries etc. and most of Europe didn't have nearly any serious drug-producers (they all import stuff like that from rest of the world),
- strangely, animal food (in all kinds) is in great supply and cheap, even some better ones (cost of feeding mydogs are around 50-75 USD - two big dogs).
 
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I do agree with you on wild game however. I believe hunters freeze their meat before consuming to reduce the likelihood of parasitic infection, though I am not a hunter myself. There is absolutely no detriment to freezing meat before consuming it.

Less for getting rid of parasites and more because, unless you're turning most of your game into jerky (a waste imo), you're going to waste it if you don't freeze it. In my zone I can get one buck and two doe during the autumn rifle season. Unless I'm really unlucky, I'll usually limit out on buck, then maybe get a doe, and that will just be frozen in my deep freezer for the rest of the year.

Venison does not generally have very many parasites, though I wouldn't want to be a hunter in Wisconsin with CWD roaming around and playing the 'Will I be the first to get this prion disease?' lottery. Bear and boar you do have to be careful to cook thoroughly, because both have high instances of trichinosis.


In response to shipping from China, my wife and I usually order a huge box from China about two or three times a year. Usually just household stuff we can get for dirt cheap, like spray bottles, bathroom mats, soap dispensers, or whatever, plus whatever one-off food my wife hasn't had from China in a long time. Used to be we could order it and it would slow-boat here in about two months. Our most recent order took six and we paid through the nose for shipping.
 
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