Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[BrokLesnerd]

If 6% of the vulnerable population dies, and only 5% of population is vulnarable that means the 0,3% of population will die. Probably yearly, so take a excel sheet and simulate ten years of reducing population by 0,3%. And in no counteraction we will have a giant bio-labratory producing new variations of virus.

Also as a bonus we have people that recover, but no in full health. All pulmonology sickness can have a permanent effects like smaller effectivness of breathing or so, COVID-19 also have nice effects like "brain fog" for not-so-small percentage of recovered people. And this is main concern with pandemic: long term health effects on population, not the death factor. TBH, even if 20% of population dies it will probably not be something that will be more than a short note in historical books, but a common disease (common like flu or something) which will grant a fraction of population life-time standing effects on hearth or mental health will be something that isn't to be ignored.

Many people when think about a "serious virus" have in mind a pop-cultural shit like Captain Trips from The Stand - erm, NO, any virus like that will ever spread. If a virus quickly kills a person that his range will be small and disease will be very quickly wiped out or limited (you need time to gave a virus to others, so if you die quickly you will not spread it to many persons). That is the true danger from viruses like HIV or COVID-19 - their effects aren't visable for a long time.

And also yes, mass-vaccination will be resulting in death of some unlucky guys. But the point is, that vaccination for most diseases is less destructive than freely spreading disease. If in one hand government body have letting to die perspectively like 1-3% of population in long standing epidemic and have to deal with long-term effects in other 10-15% percent of it OR take some serious actions (like mass-vacination) and have the death ratio like 0,1-0,5% of population with less than 5% population with long-standing effects the choice is obvious. In theory, in reality they have unpredictable effects of disease and predictable effects of vaccination. In some way, sometimes they have a black swan to deal with (in both ways: COVID-19 have a lot smaller effects in populations, that have been using in past old good vaccine BCG against tuberculosis).

Thats just math, not a moral-fag "person have a freedom to something". And was always math.

(And if someone is curious - yes, I taked Astra Zeneca vaccine in full half year ago. Any side effects - and I choose AZ not Pfizer because it was less likely to give side effects in long term in my opinion. And yes, I'm wearing masks now - in the start with COVID-19 in my city it was against COVID-19, now because I just realized that I didn't have any infections from the start of mask action, even stupid cold so fuck it, I only regead that I didn't wear it in past just to avoid colds).

Their data already shows that only "between 10 and 20" percent of COVID patients have long-term ailments. And considering how they've acted this far, assume 10%.

Stop being a fag. No amount of "whataboutism" will justify the actions governments have undertaken. The virus that was active in 2020 was far more lethal to people than what is going now. In Canada, the number of deaths due to COVID was equal to the number of people who die from Influenza in any given year. And considering that many times over it has been shown that for ever person infected and showing symptoms at least one other person was infected and asymptomatic.

As for masks, governments have admitted that they lied about them protecting the wearer. You haven't been sick in the last year because you're hiding from people and washing your hands more often.

Also, please remember that OG COVID had a transmission rate of 0.0007%, which increased to 0.0014% with delta and 0.014% with the "delta plus" variant we were all supposed to be scared of a month ago. If Omicron is ten times as transmissible than THAT, we arrive at 0.14%, An individual sick with newest COVID would have 1. leave their mucus on a surface others will touch 2. have that mucus come into contact with 1000 people for ONE more person to get sick. Then if that's a "high risk" person, they'll have a 94% chance of recovering and a greater than 80% chance of recovering with no long-term effects. And that's only if the modern Rona-Chan remains as lethal as "delta plus" and doesn't do what viruses do, becoming less lethal so they can continue to spread and survive.

You're more likely to be harmed by the vaccine than the illness.

You write like a street-shitter. Go home, pajeet.

 

[Protistology]

If 6% of the vulnerable population dies, and only 5% of population is vulnarable that means the 0,3% of population will die. Probably yearly, so take a excel sheet and simulate ten years of reducing population by 0,3%. And in no counteraction we will have a giant bio-labratory producing new variations of virus.

Also as a bonus we have people that recover, but no in full health. All pulmonology sickness can have a permanent effects like smaller effectivness of breathing or so, COVID-19 also have nice effects like "brain fog" for not-so-small percentage of recovered people. And this is main concern with pandemic: long term health effects on population, not the death factor. TBH, even if 20% of population dies it will probably not be something that will be more than a short note in historical books, but a common disease (common like flu or something) which will grant a fraction of population life-time standing effects on hearth or mental health will be something that isn't to be ignored.

Many people when think about a "serious virus" have in mind a pop-cultural shit like Captain Trips from The Stand - erm, NO, any virus like that will ever spread. If a virus quickly kills a person that his range will be small and disease will be very quickly wiped out or limited (you need time to gave a virus to others, so if you die quickly you will not spread it to many persons). That is the true danger from viruses like HIV or COVID-19 - their effects aren't visable for a long time.

And also yes, mass-vaccination will be resulting in death of some unlucky guys. But the point is, that vaccination for most diseases is less destructive than freely spreading disease. If in one hand government body have letting to die perspectively like 1-3% of population in long standing epidemic and have to deal with long-term effects in other 10-15% percent of it OR take some serious actions (like mass-vacination) and have the death ratio like 0,1-0,5% of population with less than 5% population with long-standing effects the choice is obvious. In theory, in reality they have unpredictable effects of disease and predictable effects of vaccination. In some way, sometimes they have a black swan to deal with (in both ways: COVID-19 have a lot smaller effects in populations, that have been using in past old good vaccine BCG against tuberculosis).

Thats just math, not a moral-fag "person have a freedom to something". And was always math.

(And if someone is curious - yes, I taked Astra Zeneca vaccine in full half year ago. Any side effects - and I choose AZ not Pfizer because it was less likely to give side effects in long term in my opinion. And yes, I'm wearing masks now - in the start with COVID-19 in my city it was against COVID-19, now because I just realized that I didn't have any infections from the start of mask action, even stupid cold so fuck it, I only regead that I didn't wear it in past just to avoid colds).

Their data already shows that only "between 10 and 20" percent of COVID patients have long-term ailments. And considering how they've acted this far, assume 10%.

Stop being a fag. No amount of "whataboutism" will justify the actions governments have undertaken. The virus that was active in 2020 was far more lethal to people than what is going now. In Canada, the number of deaths due to COVID was equal to the number of people who die from Influenza in any given year. And considering that many times over it has been shown that for ever person infected and showing symptoms at least one other person was infected and asymptomatic.

As for masks, governments have admitted that they lied about them protecting the wearer. You haven't been sick in the last year because you're hiding from people and washing your hands more often.

Also, please remember that OG COVID had a transmission rate of 0.0007%, which increased to 0.0014% with delta and 0.014% with the "delta plus" variant we were all supposed to be scared of a month ago. If Omicron is ten times as transmissible than THAT, we arrive at 0.14%, An individual sick with newest COVID would have 1. leave their mucus on a surface others will touch 2. have that mucus come into contact with 1000 people for ONE more person to get sick. Then if that's a "high risk" person, they'll have a 94% chance of recovering and a greater than 80% chance of recovering with no long-term effects. And that's only if the modern Rona-Chan remains as lethal as "delta plus" and doesn't do what viruses do, becoming less lethal so they can continue to spread and survive.

You're more likely to be harmed by the vaccine than the illness.

You write like a street-shitter. Go home, pajeet.

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Topic dilution. Glowniggers. Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi.

 

[SCSI]

Been poking around the news today, not much in the way of individual stories that are terribly interesting, but two things do float to the surface after wading through enough of that shit.

One, there's a surprising variety this time in how doom-y the stories are. Seen anything from "OMG this is the worst variant yet" to "seems to be progressing as expected towards becoming another ordinary endemic bug." And two, there's a particular call to action that's starting to congeal in the journomuck that might explain why all of a sudden, an African variant is getting hyped instead of "don't talk about that you racist." (Archive)

Some experts said the variant’s emergence illustrated how rich countries’ hoarding of vaccines threatens to prolong the pandemic.

Fewer than 6% of people in Africa have been fully immunized against COVID-19, and millions of health workers and vulnerable populations have yet to receive a single dose. Those conditions can speed up spread of the virus, offering more opportunities for it to evolve into a dangerous variant.

“This is one of the consequences of the inequity in vaccine rollouts and why the grabbing of surplus vaccines by richer countries will inevitably rebound on us all at some point,” said Michael Head, a senior research fellow in global health at Britain’s University of Southampton. He urged Group of 20 leaders “to go beyond vague promises and actually deliver on their commitments to share doses.”

I guess Pfizer and friends are getting tired of how the African market hasn't been opening their wallets for them.

 

[Willie Thrills]

How to piss on a bonfire in one easy post!

I meant in Africa but they are still world-class in research. They're less of a third-world country and more like a third-world country tied to a highly developed first-world country.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Meanwhile Israel shut its borders to all foreigners to prevent scary Omicron sauce
While Goldman Sachs says it's not that scary to change your portfolio, LOL.

Methinks the new Omicron variant exists solely to explain why people get sick despite being vaxxed. Remember? Israel is about to enter it's natural coronavirus wave, and even though some Israelis get already fourth shot, they expect it not to work, hence closing borders and scaremongering.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess Pfizer and friends are getting tired of how the African market hasn't been opening their wallets for them.

Or they haven't lobbied enough against HCQ and Ivermectin.

Meanwhile, that article from American Thinker is very optimistic because the pro-lockdown leftists might have created a big unintended consequence. The last paragraph are worth to read.

Is there a wholly unexpected benefit from the left’s COVID madness?

It’s possible that the Democrats’ decision to use COVID to gain a political advantage in the 2020 election and beyond may have triggered a powerful Black Swan event. Even as they succeeded in destroying the U.S. economy and weaponizing pu...

www.americanthinker.com

...Add in the fact that the lockdowns allowed often unconstitutional mail-in voting and secretive vote counts and, suddenly, you’ve got a popular president losing the race to a corrupt, incompetent puppet who managed to have more ballots counted in his favor. With Biden in office, the left has been able to strike major blows at the economy, the border, national sovereignty, and the military. In addition, it keeps hammering away at the culture, especially in K-12 schools.

This is where that Black Swan might be seen floating by.

Thanks to the lockdowns and school closures, parents have been home to witness their children’s distance learning. They’ve seen, up close and personal, the Critical Race Theory, LGBTQ propaganda, and general anti-Americanism inundating their children. And many parents, having seen it, haven’t liked it.

And at long last, I’m ready to get to the two items I saw today that suggest the possibility of a Black Swan that leftists didn’t see coming when they weaponized COVID to achieve the short-term goal of ridding themselves of Trump and the long-term goal of striking a blow at America’s political, economic, and social infrastructures.

The first story is that, in Washington State, 55,000 students have withdrawn from the public school system. Many withdrew for the reasons mentioned above, as well as the fact that public schools are failing at their core mission, which is to teach children basic skills, such as reading, writing, and arithmetic. Indeed, across America, homeschooling is soaring and public schools are struggling to justify their budget. The fact that a district like Fairfax County Public Schools told parents to accept that there are pornographic books in the library indoctrinating kids in the LGBTQ agenda and promoting pedophile grooming won’t help schools.

The second thing I read was a theory that Sarah Hoyt articulated regarding a David Foster article pointing out that America has jobs but no workers. Sarah posited that the workforce deficit may not just be people on the dole or retiring early. Instead, she wonders if a lot of families are discovering that, if they’re not paying for preschool, childcare, and nannies, they can manage on Dad’s salary, especially in an employee’s market. Mom can be home for the kids. Children thrive when they have stay-at-home moms and homeschooling means they’re not getting indoctrinated in leftism.

Looked at from that angle, it’s entirely possible that, by trying to push Americans into being the Soviet Union in 1935, leftists managed to recreate conditions for America in 1955—a time of stable nuclear families and stay-at-home moms before women’s liberation saw them turn their children over to the state’s less than tender-loving-care. And that’s the Black Swan I’m talking about.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Not to powerlevel too much, but the last paragraph of that article above describes mine and my wife’s current situation fairly accurately. One of us gets free healthcare through Veteran status. The other has the job with healthcare for them and the kids. Back before COVID, we both worked full-time and that meant daycare for the kids plus a lot of eating out and precooked stuff from the store because after 10 hours of work for each of us, plus with the kids tired from school AND daycare, no one felt like cooking anything.

Turns out that with one of us home, (the one with no healthcare costs), and the other one working, we’re doing great. No more daycare costs for 2 kids. Cooking 3 meals at home a day and only having to pay the fuel cost for one car to work and back a day instead of two saves a TON of money too PLUS the best thing is that the kids aren’t having their school day extended by 2 hours due to our work schedules, and my wife and I aren’t overwhelmed by both working 40 hour weeks and then trying to get everything done in the 3-4 hours we’d have in the evenings and whatever time we could find on weekends. At least one of us now has the time to keep the home perfect, get everything done, while the other is at work. It’s fantastic, and my wife and I NEVER would have tried it if COVID hadn’t put one of us out of work. Anyway, just thought I’d mention it.

 

[UVB-76]

Also as a bonus we have people that recover, but no in full health. All pulmonology sickness can have a permanent effects like smaller effectivness of breathing or so, COVID-19 also have nice effects like "brain fog" for not-so-small percentage of recovered people. And this is main concern with pandemic: long term health effects on population, not the death factor. TBH, even if 20% of population dies it will probably not be something that will be more than a short note in historical books, but a common disease (common like flu or something) which will grant a fraction of population life-time standing effects on hearth or mental health will be something that isn't to be ignored.

We already know that a ton of people claiming long term effects of COVID can't even provide evidence of ever having a positive test or having exposure confirmed through antibody testing.
Even though in the US the blacks and hispanics have a greater chance of hospitalization and death, the long covid claims are disproportionately coming from middle-class white women.
I had "brain fog". Caused by dealing with retards at all at work while not being able to take a decent breath due to masks.
Things like "depression" and "anxiety" are also counted towards long covid claims so essentially you added a huge chunk of the population to the numbers.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Not to powerlevel too much, but the last paragraph of that article above describes mine and my wife’s current situation fairly accurately. One of us gets free healthcare through Veteran status. The other has the job with healthcare for them and the kids. Back before COVID, we both worked full-time and that meant daycare for the kids plus a lot of eating out and precooked stuff from the store because after 10 hours of work for each of us, plus with the kids tired from school AND daycare, no one felt like cooking anything.

Turns out that with one of us home, (the one with no healthcare costs), and the other one working, we’re doing great. No more daycare costs for 2 kids. Cooking 3 meals at home a day and only having to pay the fuel cost for one car to work and back a day instead of two saves a TON of money too PLUS the best thing is that the kids aren’t having their school day extended by 2 hours due to our work schedules, and my wife and I aren’t overwhelmed by both working 40 hour weeks and then trying to get everything done in the 3-4 hours we’d have in the evenings and whatever time we could find on weekends. At least one of us now has the time to keep the home perfect, get everything done, while the other is at work. It’s fantastic, and my wife and I NEVER would have tried it if COVID hadn’t put one of us out of work. Anyway, just thought I’d mention it.

Yeah, I don't know if many people do the math on that. Sure, a second income might net you a bit more splurge money, but the return on time spent might not necessarily be there. Homemaker is an important job to making living more efficient for the family unit. You might not earn a wage directly, but you reduce household expenses by not having to outsource things like raising your kids and feeding your family. Plus, you actually get more time out of each other.

I think the wage gap between working/middle class and the 1% has gotten too wide since we had that "dream" society of the 50s, and that's probably a social issue that does eventually collapse a society. You basically need people to be able to lead comfortable, boring lives by doing honest work to keep them from wanting to rebel, self-sterilize and degrade your society. I don't want to claim I have a solution, but if you can make one person working and the other perhaps no more than mom's house part time it's likely a more efficient family unit, but we are pushed to crave more and that two income households where no one sees each other is ideal.

Sorry for the derail. To tie it back to covid, I think if one good thing has come out of the push to the New Normal, is that we have all gotten a chance to put things in perspective and reevaluate our priorities. I'm not sure if most people have done this, but at least the opportunity was there!

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Their data already shows that only "between 10 and 20" percent of COVID patients have long-term ailments. And considering how they've acted this far, assume 10%.

So it is worse than expected - that will probably increase the ratio of long-time sick peopla like "to big to not care". Many conditions aren't killing, but will deplate working force or force a person to spend a lot money during their life time (e.g. asthma - probably asthmatic person will not die because of asthma, but will consume time to itme not-so-cheap drugs and will not be able to conduct many activities or do many jobs.

You're more likely to be harmed by the vaccine than the illness.

In which timeline? No one from my work have side effects of vaccination, but few people that was non-vaccinated go and died in result of COVID-19, some others recover ut not in full strenght.

Are You sure, that You governemnt used vaccine, not pancuronium bromide? Maybye this is why you see more side effects and deaths from vaccine than from COVID-19.

Well, it is also possible that in Canada pandemic isn't in full scale - in some countries of Europe where antivaccers are strightly bounded which certain political forces that is looking like in mysterious way the number of supporters anti-waccine forces are going down. not very big, like from 11 to 9,5 percent, but it is visible in last year. Hush, maybye is just nothing, maybye some of them just go and died.

As for masks, governments have admitted that they lied about them protecting the wearer. You haven't been sick in the last year because you're hiding from people and washing your hands more often.

Well, I didn't change anything in my behavior because epidemic. Only things is that I'm sitting on home office not in normal office and masks. Social contacts of mine are on the same level, I more often go for shopping (because I'm bored after working all day home), and due to more money I'm going more often outside to places like cinema or other shit.

IDK, maybye You started to wash hands in near past, but in my country it is rather popular thing to do - wash hands after toilet, wash hands before eating anything, wash hands after taking a shover etc.

An individual sick with newest COVID would have 1. leave their mucus on a surface others will touch 2. have that mucus come into contact with 1000 people for ONE more person to get sick. Then if that's a "high risk" person, they'll have a 94% chance of recovering and a greater than 80% chance of recovering with no long-term effects.

If the numbers are correct, You just didn't understood them. Thats not a shame, but really - use excell to recalc Your predictions. First one - infectivness didn't mean that someone who avoid getting virus is non-vulnerable for infection. That means his lucky this time, nothing more. If You fuck someone HIV-positive it is only 1% (one 100 intercourses, some sources are typing one per 200 intercourses) that you will get it.

If one person can infect only one of 1000 contacts and stay infectous for only 7 days, that means after a daily trips to and from work using subway with 250 persons abroad they will probably infect one person ever two days. So lets say they only 2 new infected dicks. If the infected persons will still using subway they will also infect - each one two more persons in next week, so we will have four more infected dicks. And so one.

Also this isn'ta checkbox in game. One contact without infection didn't means You will not get virus after another contact with sick person.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

I had "brain fog". Caused by dealing with retards at all at work while not being able to take a decent breath due to masks.

If You have troubles with breathing under a mask You should quickly contact with some medical personel. That isn't normal. It is a huge, red sign that You have some general breath problems (probably not related with COVID-19 - maybye asthma, maybye poorly treated flu in past) but healthy person wearing normal mask will have not a problem with breathing.

Normal - some what in Europe is classifield under category FFP1, FFP2 or FFP3 or classic medical mask; if you use old granny panties thats your choice to suffocate.

 

[borsabil]

Kolkata's air quality ambience ranges from poor to very poor | Science-Environment

Read more about Kolkata's air quality ambience ranges from poor to very poor on Devdiscourse

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"It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home," Coetzee said The official noted that hospitals have not been overburdened by Omicron patients and that the new strain is not been detected in vaccinated persons. At the same time, the situation might be different for the unvaccinated.

Well it's certainly been detected among the jabbed. Every single air traveler who's thrown a positive has been at least double jabbed and some triple. But interesting that the patients she's had reports on have been unvaccinated and have displayed extremely mild symptoms, i.e. common cold. If it's 3 x more transmissible than Delta Covid then that would make sense. Virus mutate over time to become more infectious and benign. Also if it's that transmissible there's no point to closing borders, it will be raging through the global population within a couple of weeks.

So nature has perhaps given us our Covid vaccine, at least for the non jabbed. The vaccinated will have to wait to find out what effect the new variant has on them but best case they'll enjoy the same disease course as everyone else, mild cold for a few days then on their way. All that fuss and reeing, all the lockdowns and the force vaccinations. The destroyed businesses and lives and we may well end up where we would have anyway if we'd just let mother nature do it's thing. Anyway if this is the super mild form of Covid we've been waiting for that's great news, Yes they'll continue to push their crappy vaccines and treatments but anyone who actually consents to getting jabbed from this point is a no shit moron.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

We already know that a ton of people claiming long term effects of COVID can't even provide evidence of ever having a positive test or having exposure confirmed through antibody testing.
Even though in the US the blacks and hispanics have a greater chance of hospitalization and death, the long covid claims are disproportionately coming from middle-class white women.
I had "brain fog". Caused by dealing with retards at all at work while not being able to take a decent breath due to masks.
Things like "depression" and "anxiety" are also counted towards long covid claims so essentially you added a huge chunk of the population to the numbers.

Long covid is just the next iteration of bullshit medical problems latched on to by white women who can't deal with the fact that being a strong and empowered working womyn wasn't all the Jews cracked it up to be.

These medical problems provide an easy out - they REALLY wanted and DID work hard like a real adult but sadly they contracted muh fibro, whiplash, pelvic instability, postpartum or long covid and now they just can't anymore!!

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Holy fucking shit, I love this. And you. This is the perfect rebuttal to the fucking spastics who have yet to find, install, and use their spines.

The one choice I forgot to mention was they picked which brand of covid shot they wanted. They literally picked their own poison. How can you say you had no choice.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Yeah, I don't know if many people do the math on that. Sure, a second income might net you a bit more splurge money, but the return on time spent might not necessarily be there. Homemaker is an important job to making living more efficient for the family unit. You might not earn a wage directly, but you reduce household expenses by not having to outsource things like raising your kids and feeding your family. Plus, you actually get more time out of each other.

The article makes a good point regarding that, though. Mothers weren't working for money. They were working because women's liberation told them that they should derive their fulfillment from their occupation, like a man would.

Except that's not true for either gender. Proper fathers aren't fulfilled because of their job. They derive enjoyment from being "the bread winner" that provides for their family. We all prefer to have a job we enjoy and are good at, too, but those things fall second to feeding, clothing, and housing your children. Proper mothers find their value in raising their children to be good citizens, which requires a stable, tidy home and proper nutrition and ample attention and affection.

Feminism has always been a lie, which facilitated Corporatism (which is just a gentle name for Fascism) and globalized economies, which were also a lie. I once had a man I know tell me that he liked globalism because it meant he could buy cheap socks at Wal-Mart. When I told him that I bought socks that were just as good and made in the USA from a truck stop for the same price, his head almost exploded. Thought he was going to have a heart attack when I told him that the price of goods usually reflects the quality of the goods and all the "savings" from globalism are lost in transportation costs. All he was left with was "well, at least we don't have factories polluting the air!", which ignores shitty factories in China and the progress the west had made in developing "clean factories". Western Manufacturing wasn't wholly transplanted to China until the mid 90s. Why did the air quality in L.A. improve from the 50s to the 70s if the factories in the inner city were so bad?

If we ever get another POTUS with a spine, we'll see manufacturing return to the west since the clean-air technologies have remained in development and improved greatly in the last 50 years.

anyone who actually consents to getting jabbed from this point is a no shit moron.

But morons are full of shit. And regarding those who took the poke, especially so.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

If You have troubles with breathing under a mask You should quickly contact with some medical personel. That isn't normal. It is a huge, red sign that You have some general breath problems (probably not related with COVID-19 - maybye asthma, maybye poorly treated flu in past) but healthy person wearing normal mask will have not a problem with breathing.

Normal - some what in Europe is classifield under category FFP1, FFP2 or FFP3 or classic medical mask; if you use old granny panties thats your choice to suffocate.

Why yes, I do have asthma. But I even see people with no asthma or other conditions "modifying" their masks to allow easy airflow (i.e. completely destroying the point of the masks). And no one in covidian states accepts "muh asthma" as a reason not to wear a mask everywhere. "Hurrr that's not normal you probably have breathing issues you should get checked out." Yes, I do, from a pulmotoxic medication I was given during my first pregnancy and which my body has never fully recovered from. Clearly the right response is to wear my mask and take more unproven medications with unknown longterm effects!

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

VIRGINIA: Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin brought a list to Gate City on Tuesday of what he will do on Day 1 of his administration.

www.timesnews.net

 

[borsabil]

The one choice I forgot to mention was they picked which brand of covid shot they wanted. They literally picked their own poison. How can you say you had no choice.

My wife got the jab back in April. I told her it was a terrible idea but she did it anyway because vaccines in her mind are always safe. Fair enough, that's up to her. Equally she's supported my choice in turning down the vaccine even though it' meant I lost my job. Because of this we've had to drastically change our lives, she'd have every right to be pissed off at me, but she isn't. Why? Because she understands, like all adults with a moral worldview, that people have a right to bodily autonomy. If I get a bad case of the coof I expect she'll tell me she thinks I'm an idiot and vice versa. We'll then get on with our lives.

I've seen people posting on here about being 'forced' to get the jab by their employer. Forced? Only governments and criminals can force anyone to do anything. All that employers can do is fire you, in the middle of the biggest labor shortage since WW2. Where I live it's mandatory to get jabbed for almost every job there is, but still it was ludicrously easy for me to get some part time cash work and some consultancy contracts. Don't get me wrong if you want to get the vaccine get it, but people need to stop with the forced jabbed bullshit. Just be honest, almost everyone (with the exception of kids who have Branch Covidian's as parents and Australian Aboriginals) got the vaccine because going out to the pub, or keeping their barely above minimum wage job, was more important to them than any possible health effects. We all make our choices in life, best to own them.

Anyway here's Fauci opining on the Omicron

For those who can't stand the torture of watching takeaways:
- Omicron Covid is an unknown entity at this point but it likely will avoid antibody treatments and vaccines
- It's never been more important to get vaccinated and get boosted (yes he uses the word boosted) because booster doses give you crazy high antibodies which is good and will protect from Omicron.
- The President is taking it very seriously and is doing everything needed to protect the public
-Doesn't want to say Omicron is a dangerous turn in the pandemic but we need to err on the side of caution and get everyone vaccinated and boosted.

The only actual information point I got from listening to this cretin is the word boosted. I take it this has been focus grouped and approved as the new term to sell the 3rd dose mRNA jab. OK?

Whatever this faggot says do the exact fucking opposite. I mean literally the opposite. If he says this is Ebola crossed with AIDS and the measles treat it like it's the common cold and vice versa.

 

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But I even see people with no asthma or other conditions "modifying" their masks to allow easy airflow (i.e. completely destroying the point of the masks).

With no known conditions.

No, seriously - if I will have any problems with brething in proper mask I will just go do doctor for diagnosis what is wrong.

Yes, I do, from a pulmotoxic medication I was given during my first pregnancy and which my body has never fully recovered from. Clearly the right response is to wear my mask and take more unproven medications with unknown longterm effects!

It is very hard to wrote but You are unlucky - sad but true. Also as a woman You have smaller chances than someone without health problems or opposite sex to stand in health or alive in very harsh conditions, e.g. in case of war in Your home city.

But it is a huge mistake to grade governmental actions in any moral scale - from some level of power person in power just didn't have any good options. So thet go to math: what option is more likely to kill less people? They can choose to do nothing and see what happens (probably very bad things) or try to do something with COVID-19 and have some number of people who get harmed because they was unlucky. And this problem (bad things resulting deaths or bad things resulting deaths as only options) occurs in many questions:

- guns: should we have freely access to guns for everyone or nearly anyone (and some kids will get shoot because some idiot LARPs Colombine in their own school?) or we can regulate guns ownership (less school shootings, more people who hasn't a chance to defend itself from a very bad guy with illegal gun).

- public healthcare: what disease or condition we will fight using public funds? Who we let to die, who we let to live (e.g. what curations will be refund under public healthcare scheme, what not)?

- migrations: should we let them go into our country in whole, should we let to pass and stay only some of them, or should we ban migration at all? More migration is equal to more crime and this is true in all huge migrations, denying entry will led to suffering of some other people and it is also true always.

- freedom of press: should he let to unregulated freedom, or should we ban some non-nice things like separatism, religious radicalism or something?

I have one disclaimer - I'm from Europe, so some things work in this place different than in North America. Public healthcare is covered by public and compusolary monopolized scheme (all workers with small expections have to pay few percents of their wage to state, and state funds public healthcare system: emergency is free, common conditions are free to take care in hospital, cheap ones also, many no-so-cheap are also covered from this scheme in 100% - e.g. cancers - but some rare or very expensive therapies for some rare conditions aren't covered so one is fucked if he have it). Also now happening situation between Belarus and eastern EU states - yes, many innocent people, even childs frozen to death or dehydrated to death in this crisis on border with no option to go into EU territory or retreat into Belarus. Evacuations to Iraq started after ~50 confirmed deaths.

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In some point I cathed with my eyes some off-top about rule of law. O boi. Law is only a way to enforce the will of rulling group. Nothing more, nothing less, no matter what is the way of settling rulling entity. Even democracy is just a tyrany majority over minorities.

 

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If You have troubles with breathing under a mask You should quickly contact with some medical personel. That isn't normal. It is a huge, red sign that You have some general breath problems (probably not related with COVID-19 - maybye asthma, maybye poorly treated flu in past) but healthy person wearing normal mask will have not a problem with breathing.

Normal - some what in Europe is classifield under category FFP1, FFP2 or FFP3 or classic medical mask; if you use old granny panties thats your choice to suffocate.

Remind me again how a mask that's 'totes easy to breathe through ' protects one from an aerosolized respiratory virus.