Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Billy Beer]

For those who can't stand the torture of watching takeaways:
- Omicron Covid is an unknown entity at this point but it likely will avoid antibody treatments and vaccines

They have no idea about Omicron, other than it WILL avoid vaccines and thus people need a 3rd and 4th booster? I mean come the fuck on, can it be more blatant that this is just fabricated horse shit?

"I don't know what will happen tomorrow, but I know i'll find a thousand quid in a shoe box." What?

- It's never been more important to get vaccinated and get boosted (yes he uses the word boosted) because booster doses give you crazy high antibodies which is good and will protect from Omicron.
- The President is taking it very seriously and is doing everything needed to protect the public
-Doesn't want to say Omicron is a dangerous turn in the pandemic but we need to err on the side of caution and get everyone vaccinated and boosted.

What about those already boosted and vaccinated? Do they need to get reboosted and vaccinated to err on the side of caution?

How about erring on the side of economic, mental wellness and social caution, and carry on with our daily lives?

 

[Livecorpse]

VIRGINIA: Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin brought a list to Gate City on Tuesday of what he will do on Day 1 of his administration.

www.timesnews.net

Youngkin talks a good game, but we'll have to see how well he can back it up. I doubt he'll go full DeSantis (and considering VA is much bluer than FL, that might actually hurt him in the long run), but if Back There Biden imposes more overbearing COVID 'mitigation' measures and Youngkin doesn't fight, he's toast.

Thank fucking God McAuliffe didn't win; you know he'd be announcing a full lockdown right now. The one decent thing I can say about Governor Blackface is that he didn't go full Newsom with the lockdowns.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Remind me again how a mask that's 'totes easy to breathe through ' protects one from an aerosolized respiratory virus.

In normal way - they stop part of aerosole (mainly droplets of saliva and snot to which the virus is attached). Their aren't supposed to stop particle of virus what isn't attached to some kind of droplets, but main way the virus travels and stays active is saliva and snot droplets. That is how it works in case of surgical mask.

In case of FFP3 masks their should protect up to 99% of particles bigger than 0,3 micrometer, so their should stop nearly all of saliva droplets. When You sneeze, to didn't eject much of "clear", unattached to anything viruses, but they stay in droplets in saliva.

But let be clear - I don't care than any of others wear masks. In worst case they will die (maybye virus, maybye in protest against "totalitarism" - I also don't care), in best nothing will happen and because they aren't me I just didn't care of their future.

 

[The Worm Ouroboros]

With no known conditions.

No, seriously - if I will have any problems with brething in proper mask I will just go do doctor for diagnosis what is wrong.


It is very hard to wrote but You are unlucky - sad but true. Also as a woman You have smaller chances than someone without health problems or opposite sex to stand in health or alive in very harsh conditions, e.g. in case of war in Your home city.

But it is a huge mistake to grade governmental actions in any moral scale - from some level of power person in power just didn't have any good options. So thet go to math: what option is more likely to kill less people? They can choose to do nothing and see what happens (probably very bad things) or try to do something with COVID-19 and have some number of people who get harmed because they was unlucky. And this problem (bad things resulting deaths or bad things resulting deaths as only options) occurs in many questions:

- guns: should we have freely access to guns for everyone or nearly anyone (and some kids will get shoot because some idiot LARPs Colombine in their own school?) or we can regulate guns ownership (less school shootings, more people who hasn't a chance to defend itself from a very bad guy with illegal gun).

- public healthcare: what disease or condition we will fight using public funds? Who we let to die, who we let to live (e.g. what curations will be refund under public healthcare scheme, what not)?

- migrations: should we let them go into our country in whole, should we let to pass and stay only some of them, or should we ban migration at all? More migration is equal to more crime and this is true in all huge migrations, denying entry will led to suffering of some other people and it is also true always.

- freedom of press: should he let to unregulated freedom, or should we ban some non-nice things like separatism, religious radicalism or something?

I have one disclaimer - I'm from Europe, so some things work in this place different than in North America. Public healthcare is covered by public and compusolary monopolized scheme (all workers with small expections have to pay few percents of their wage to state, and state funds public healthcare system: emergency is free, common conditions are free to take care in hospital, cheap ones also, many no-so-cheap are also covered from this scheme in 100% - e.g. cancers - but some rare or very expensive therapies for some rare conditions aren't covered so one is fucked if he have it). Also now happening situation between Belarus and eastern EU states - yes, many innocent people, even childs frozen to death or dehydrated to death in this crisis on border with no option to go into EU territory or retreat into Belarus. Evacuations to Iraq started after ~50 confirmed deaths.

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In some point I cathed with my eyes some off-top about rule of law. O boi. Law is only a way to enforce the will of rulling group. Nothing more, nothing less, no matter what is the way of settling rulling entity. Even democracy is just a tyrany majority over minorities.

Your points don't make any logical sense, and it's partly because you're a true eurofag, so you were taught what to think without analyzing the logic of it.
First off, you saying "probably very bad things" will happen if we do nothing, is complete speculation. Additionally, considering the absurdly low death rate with covid, I don't know where you get that impression. Sweden did just about nothing, and they fared equal or better than everyone else.
You say we shouldn't morally grade the government, but you're a tool if you actually believe that. The government has in fact done worse than nothing; they have blocked access to life saving treatments during the majority of this pandemic. Just look at what Biden tried to do with Florida and monoclonal antibodies. Many governments have even used the pandemic as an excuse to overreach their power considerably.

Guns: I can't begin to describe how wrong you are. I don't know where you get this idea that more guns = more school shootings. More guns would result in less school shootings, as other people at the school would have their own weapon to defend themselves with, and they would be trained in their use, instead of having to cower or hide because they're all unarmed. Same point with places like Detroit, by the way. If the gangs and criminals weren't the only ones with the guns, aka the means to defend themselves, I doubt the gangs would flourish as much. As an aside, if you truly believe that the police will substitute for a gun while they can't be there for another 20 minutes, boy do I have news for you.

Public healthcare: what the fuck are you talking about? what disease or condition will we fight? we can address any number of them simultaneously, not just one. Who do we let die? Probably less people if the government didn't spend so much time blocking treatments that have been proven effective in other countries.

migrations: in the US, we go with some of them. Which is really the only answer if you want to maintain any kind of cohesive nation state with any kind of social programs. If you want social programs, you can't do mass migration into the country. The state simply can't afford it.

freedom of press: are you actually retarded enough to attempt to argue that the press should have any restrictions on it besides not printing falsehood, aka propaganda? The thing people in Europe don't understand is that there is no one trustworthy enough to be given the power to decide what people can and cannot say, and there never will be. It is not a power that can be given to any authority. Threats don't count as free speech because they are intended to force a person to alter their behavior, so don't even start whining about that.

If you take one piece of advice from this, it's to wake up and realize the government is not your friend.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Just to touch on how bug a bunch of fucking cunts the EU are, they're actively encouraging customs staff in Ireland to knock back stuff originating in the UK.

Forget the fact Ireland has fuck all industry, no manufacturing base. Lots of it being stuff for infants and newborns that the Irish don't/can't make in their own land is moot, clearly?

The EU fucking despise anyone wanting to get out, and the sooner it topples the better.

The Muslims need to up their game and start rolling the trucks of peace to the Hague and parliaments and homes of people who put Europe, Europe uber alles. I could at least tolerate the Muslims doing that.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Remind me again how a mask that's 'totes easy to breathe through ' protects one from an aerosolized respiratory virus.

"Muh saliva droplets"

Just to touch on how bug a bunch of fucking cunts the EU are, they're actively encouraging customs staff in Ireland to knock back stuff originating in the UK.

Forget the fact Ireland has fuck all industry, no manufacturing base. Lots of it being stuff for infants and newborns that the Irish don't/can't make in their own land is moot, clearly?

The EU fucking despise anyone wanting to get out, and the sooner it topples the better.

The Muslims need to up their game and start rolling the trucks of peace to the Hague and parliaments and homes of people who put Europe, Europe uber alles. I could at least tolerate the Muslims doing that.

Fool! Only right-wingers fight the government!

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Has this been posted yet?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

VIRGINIA: Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Governor-elect vows to strike down vaccine, mask mandates in January

Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin brought a list to Gate City on Tuesday of what he will do on Day 1 of his administration.

www.timesnews.net

I hope it'll allow the sale of HCQ and Ivermectin to everyone as well.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

They have no idea about Omicron, other than it WILL avoid vaccines and thus people need a 3rd and 4th booster? I mean come the fuck on, can it be more blatant that this is just fabricated horse shit?

"I don't know what will happen tomorrow, but I know i'll find a thousand quid in a shoe box." What?

What about those already boosted and vaccinated? Do they need to get reboosted and vaccinated to err on the side of caution?

How about erring on the side of economic, mental wellness and social caution, and carry on with our daily lives?

In the near future we will all have a constant iv drip of mRNA vaxx so our bodies never forget they have always been at war with covid.

 

[talk sh1t]

Yes, medicine as a subscription service, it's been mentioned here before. Now the question is whether you can cancel you're subscription anytime and be fine (healthwise, not the vaccine passport shit), or if you've fucked your immunsystem up beyond repair and actually need the booster now?

Whatever the case may be, I think that's the one thing we can all agree on: money for big pharma. What's in it for the government? Control with little to no pushback. Truly a match made in hell.

Still there's an important distinction to make: while Pfizer, Biontech and Moderna make billions in profit, AstraZeneca and Johnson made their vaccine non-profit (but that's about to change soon).

Pfizer, BioNTech, Moderna making $1,000 profit every second: analysis

Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are making combined profits of $65,000 every minute from their highly successful COVID-19 vaccines while the world's poorest countries remain largely unvaccinated, according to a new analysis.

medicalxpress.com

So, of course AstraZeneca had to be shat on, banning it in countries, then changing the recommendation to only 60+ years - can't let another vaccine cut into Pfizers profits.

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Another tidbit from Germany: a few days ago Jens Spahn, our health minister, announced that there's not enough of the Pfizer vaccine available and people should consider the Moderna vaccine, which is just as wonderful. Create artificial scarcity, if people didn't care what vaccine they got they sure do now. Or he got a bribe from Moderna and he's just a terrible salesman, that's possible, too, I guess.

Why aren't Astrazeneca and Johnson's vaccines being supplied to third world countries, then, since they're made non-for-profit?

 

[JosephStalin]

Ya, more babbling from Fauci. He doesn't seem to understand, and probably doesn't care that the more he babbles, the less anyone pays attention to him in a positive way. The man simply talks shit. Always has. Always will.

UPDATE 1-U.S. readies fight against Omicron but too soon for lockdowns -Fauci

Americans should be prepared to fight the spread of the new COVID-19 variant Omicron, but it is too soon to say what actions are needed, including possible mandates or lockdowns, top U.S. infectious disease official Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Sunday. The United States must do "anything and...

www.yahoo.com

UPDATE 1-U.S. readies fight against Omicron but too soon for lockdown…

archived 28 Nov 2021 17:58:22 UTC

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[Lone MacReady]

Remind me again how a mask that's 'totes easy to breathe through ' protects one from an aerosolized respiratory virus.

You're supposed to be wearing 2 masks now silly.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

they're made non-for-profit?

Kinda answered your own question

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

@The Worm Ouroboros

Well, yes, yankee and his nearly any knowleadge of world...

The thing people in Europe don't understand is that there is no one trustworthy enough to be given the power to decide what people can and cannot say, and there never will be.

So who will decide what is, and what isn't propaganda?

Also Europe tested the full freedom of press in past - it resulted in few radical ideologies to spread. Few decades ago Europe have amnesia, forget about own history and give back full free of speach. And troubles are back.

I can't begin to describe how wrong you are. I don't know where you get this idea that more guns = more school shootings

In EU shootings in schools nearly never take place in countries with strict prohibition in guns (e.g. Poland, Slovakia, Portugal). Because it is nearly impossible to get gun in hands, even illegal.

Also nearly all school-shooting incidents in schools in EU take place in countries with more liberal gun laws - mainly Germany and Finland.

And yes - also criminals nearly didn't use guns in countries with a gun bans. Because illegal gun in country where you have nearly no option to buy it will be very expensive, so a random punk will not afford it, so someone who has a idea to shoot in school

Public healthcare: what the fuck are you talking about? what disease or condition will we fight? we can address any number of them simultaneously, not just one.

Economic man, economic. In that paragraph I have in mind the financial site of healthcare - someone must pay for hospital. If public healthcare have something like budget, it is neccesary to decide for what will pay insurance, and for what it not give a dime.

Sweden did just about nothing,

Thats false. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/travel-and-covid/sweden/index_en.htm here, take and read about travel ban to Sweden.

Also, migrants and social - that isn't valid in most of EU. If we didn't count Germany and Sweden nearly any country in EU gives a signifant social for non-citizens, also it is mostly reserved for people who work some time or have very serious conditions - so main controversy is about public safety versus leaving some people o death in forst or sea. Funfact: Chris chan will probably have a big nothing from social security in most Europe, so he will be or a normal working creep, or die years ago, or (if lucky to live in Sweden or Germany) have a subsidy barely sufficent for food.

In some jurisditcions families can have subsidy for kids, but rather low (biggest in Germany - around ~300 USD in EUR for third kid). If someone thinks he can prosper in EU on any acceptable level is plain stupid or have a very little needs.

If you take one piece of advice from this, it's to wake up and realize the government is not your friend.

If I wasn't living in country that uses repression on daily routine, and was partially builded on force labour maybye I need such a wise advice.

Just to touch on how bug a bunch of fucking cunts the EU are, they're actively encouraging customs staff in Ireland to knock back stuff originating in the UK.

Erm? That is normal custom and border protection. What Brits was expecting - they leave custom union, so they aren't in custom union. They should be happy that they was allowed to leave EU without givin Ulster to Ireland

And yes, separatism isn't tolerated in most countries. Ask former CSA states how it works in USA.

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As discussion was derailed I give up with this thread, I will not waste time to teach about basics of physics, logic and math.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

Attention-grabbing headline:

Anti-vax zealot may face charges after death of Covid-19 patient​

Anti-vax zealot may face charges after death of Covid-19 patient

Gardaí are recommending criminal charges be brought against anti-vax extremist Antonio Mureddu in connection with Covid patient Joe McCarron’s departure from hospital in Donegal while gravely ill.

www.independent.ie

Anti-vax zealot may face charges after death of Covid-19 patient - In…

archived 28 Nov 2021 10:24:00 UTC

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Upon reading the article, him being against the vaccine has little to do with it. He convinced an older man (who was also fat by the way but we can all guess that by now) with covid to leave hospital against medical advice, who later returned and died after being put on a ventilator. He could face an endangerment charge if it's found that he forced the old man to leave, and they might throw in trespassing on the hospital grounds. Nothing about telling people not to get the vaccine.

It's something that should be easy to get thrown out by claiming the old man made his own decision, but this guy is a freeman of the land type who refuses to recognise the authority of the court and will definitely represent himself if charges are brought so if that happens he probably will lose and go to prison.

 

[LaxerBRO]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1464816645541486595

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I just want to note these are persons that most likely live in cities with mask and vaccine mandates.

They would mock anyone complaining about masks and say how showing their vaccine card or wearing a mask was not big deal.

That such individuals complaining were babies. But look at them now, they are complaining about getting back to normal.

But why? I thought masks and showing proof of vaccination was no big deal? Are they vain or are they liars?

 

[Fliddaroonie]

@The Worm Ouroboros

Well, yes, yankee and his nearly any knowleadge of world...



So who will decide what is, and what isn't propaganda?

Also Europe tested the full freedom of press in past - it resulted in few radical ideologies to spread. Few decades ago Europe have amnesia, forget about own history and give back full free of speach. And troubles are back.



In EU shootings in schools nearly never take place in countries with strict prohibition in guns (e.g. Poland, Slovakia, Portugal). Because it is nearly impossible to get gun in hands, even illegal.

Also nearly all school-shooting incidents in schools in EU take place in countries with more liberal gun laws - mainly Germany and Finland.

And yes - also criminals nearly didn't use guns in countries with a gun bans. Because illegal gun in country where you have nearly no option to buy it will be very expensive, so a random punk will not afford it, so someone who has a idea to shoot in school



Economic man, economic. In that paragraph I have in mind the financial site of healthcare - someone must pay for hospital. If public healthcare have something like budget, it is neccesary to decide for what will pay insurance, and for what it not give a dime.



Thats false. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/travel-and-covid/sweden/index_en.htm here, take and read about travel ban to Sweden.

Also, migrants and social - that isn't valid in most of EU. If we didn't count Germany and Sweden nearly any country in EU gives a signifant social for non-citizens, also it is mostly reserved for people who work some time or have very serious conditions - so main controversy is about public safety versus leaving some people o death in forst or sea. Funfact: Chris chan will probably have a big nothing from social security in most Europe, so he will be or a normal working creep, or die years ago, or (if lucky to live in Sweden or Germany) have a subsidy barely sufficent for food.

In some jurisditcions families can have subsidy for kids, but rather low (biggest in Germany - around ~300 USD in EUR for third kid). If someone thinks he can prosper in EU on any acceptable level is plain stupid or have a very little needs.



If I wasn't living in country that uses repression on daily routine, and was partially builded on force labour maybye I need such a wise advice.



Erm? That is normal custom and border protection. What Brits was expecting - they leave custom union, so they aren't in custom union. They should be happy that they was allowed to leave EU without givin Ulster to Ireland

And yes, separatism isn't tolerated in most countries. Ask former CSA states how it works in USA.

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As discussion was derailed I give up with this thread, I will not waste time to teach about basics of physics, logic and math.

Yes,please, do fuck back off and go offer your daughter to your nearest Somali refugee for a "sexual crisis". please. Thank you.

Better yet, go and learn the different between "was" and "were" and the contexts in which they're meant to be used.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

Omicron symptoms are ‘extremely mild’ says doctor who discovered it

The doctor who discovered Omicron says symptoms from the variant are “extremely mild” and has accused the UK of “panicking unnecessarily”.

www.standard.co.uk

Omicron symptoms are ‘extremely mild’ says doctor who discovered it |…

archived 28 Nov 2021 18:26:30 UTC

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The doctor who discovered Omicron says symptoms from the variant are “extremely mild” and has accused the UK of “panicking unnecessarily”.

The UK government announced the reintroduction of masks in shops and on public transport and imposed new travel restrictions after two cases of Omicron were detected in Britain.

Omicron, first detected in Botswana, has sparked alarm among scientists over fears that it could be more contagious than other variants and resistant to vaccines.

But Dr Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association, said the UK is overreacting, adding that symptoms are “extremely mild”.

She told the Andrew Marr Show that she first discovered the variant in a man in his early 30s who displayed symptoms of tiredness and a mild headache.

Dr Coetzee said: “What we are seeing clinically in south Africa, and remember I’m at the epicentre – that’s where I’m practising – it’s extremely mild. For us, that’s mild cases.”

When asked if the UK was “panicking unnecessarily”, she said: “I think you already have it there in your country and you’re not knowing it, and I would say, yes, at this stage I would say definitely.

“Two weeks from now maybe we will say something different.”
On Saturday, two cases of the new variant were confirmed in Nottingham and Essex.

At a press conference on Saturday Boris Johnson said that masks will be reintroduced in shops and on public transport and that all travellers into the UK would have to take a PCR test on the second day after arrival.

Those who tested positive for Covid-19 will have to isolate for ten days.

On Sunday, health secretary Sajid Javid said the new rules about mask-wearing would come into effect on Tuesday.

Speaking about face coverings he said: “I hope this is something that we can remove within weeks.

“But I do think in terms of making progress, we want life to go back towards normal, but at this point in time, given what we know about this variant, and the expert advice that has been received, I think it is right to take some proportionate and balanced action.”

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Better yet, go and learn the different between "was" and "were" and the contexts in which they're meant to be used.

Just after you will point how to make proper quote marks on forum, ok?

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Just after you will point how to make proper quote marks on forum, ok?

Oh no, after you, on your way to learn that not all languages use the same grammar and punctuation, I insist. Let me grab a shotgun for you to suck-start as well.

Christ, you're worse than your stereotypical American cunt with a passport, off "like totes doing Europe!!". As arrogant as them and limited in your scope with your world view, but simultaneously convinced you're nothing like them, when you are. They're just retards. You're an arrogant cunt who is deluded they're better and different, when you're not at all.

You can get the last word, I'm sure you'll need something to do while sucking Muslim cock and letting them skullfuck your wife and kids. Enjoy