Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%

  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%

  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%

  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%

  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%

  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%

  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%

  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%
  • Total voters
    3,199
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This might be getting far afield but I have never understood the so called "public figure" exception to defamation and libel. It disgusts me that there's this point at which you have "no assumption of privacy". The media decides suddenly you're noteworthy whether you want to be or not, and your privacy goes out the door? Who the fuck decided that?!
 
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thx1138 said:
This might be getting far afield but I have never understood the so called "public figure" exception to defamation and libel. It disgusts me that there's this point at which you have "no assumption of privacy". The media decides suddenly you're noteworthy whether you want to be or not, and your privacy goes out the door? Who the fuck decided that?!
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It was originally intended for public officials, and in that context, it makes perfect sense. Yes, if you are the government, you don't get to stop people from criticizing the government.
 
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Terrifik said:
it s worth social credit to go against kyle for next 4 to 5 years your in school even if it harms kyle for prospect.
kyle wanting a cool college party life :story:
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Poor guy just wants to make 4 doors more whores a reality.

That name will never stop being funny to me.

thx1138 said:
This might be getting far afield but I have never understood the so called "public figure" exception to defamation and libel. It disgusts me that there's this point at which you have "no assumption of privacy". The media decides suddenly you're noteworthy whether you want to be or not, and your privacy goes out the door? Who the fuck decided that?!
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In addition to what John goodman said, in theory someone of sufficient famousness can have the accusations against them blunted by their popularity. Some random ho accuses some random guy of raping her, it might be harmful to the guy if there's enough screeching.

Some random accuses a famous guy of raping her, he can mobilize his fanbase to shout her down, and blunt potential damages. We kind of saw this with... I think it was Bieber.

It's shit when you're (in)famous without ever having asked for it, like Kyle.
 
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It's shit when you're (in)famous without ever having asked for it, like Kyle.
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Generally limited public figure status requires actually having involved yourself in a specific controversy voluntarily, and only applies to that specific controversy. The argument would be he did so by actually going there with a gun. So far, that whole "but he CROSSED STATE LINES with a GUN" (which he didn't) argument hasn't carried much weight, but he did involve himself voluntarily with something that was newsworthy, and that he had certainly also seen on the news himself.

What you generally can't do is defame someone all over the place and then claim that your own defamation made them a public figure.

In this case, though, it was a high profile trial, and trials are of public interest, so I would think the actual malice standard would apply. I think it could be established for those who were actually present at the trial and then told objectively false lies about what happened there.

It's a rough standard. I'll note the only party in the Richard Jewell libel suits who didn't settle, a newspaper, ultimately won, although it took until after Jewell himself had died, over ten years later.
 
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AnOminous said:
I was considering trying Rittenhouse. Idea abandoned. Also it wasn't because of Kyle but because a lot of memes about me personally, before this case even happened, involved me drinking lots of Rittenhouse. Personally, I prefer Wild Turkey.
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I wonder who memed that?
 
6MillionCoofs said:
Because there is a difference between the concept and the mob. Something Kyle went on to specifically draw a distinction between in that very same interview.
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Is there though? BLM was founded by Marxist extremists. The mobs and riots are the point, not a side effect.

It's like saying: "I fully support the idea behind NAMBLA because I think we should all love one another, including men and boys, but some NAMBLA supporters take things a little too far."
 
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