Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Justa Grata Honoria]

So to put this in context if you are double jabbed in the UK you are 8.5 times more likely to need hospital care and 8 times more likely to die than people who have refused to hand over their NHS numbers or illegal immigrants.

Is this total mortality rate or just covid? Btw can you check total mortality and how much the total mortality rate has increased

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

My dad and paternal grandparents now have both shots and one booster as of today. I will report back if they show any symptoms of side effects. I do not have any shots.

End of the month update from my previous (quoted) post: nobody developed any side effects from the booster or caught the coof.

 

[borsabil]

Is this total mortality rate or just covid? Btw can you check total mortality and how much the total mortality rate has increased

All case mortality is 0.4%. It's been bouncing around to as low as 0.3% and as high as 0.6%. No definitive trend

Edit- to answer your first point yes just Covid. This is a Covid surveillance report

 

[Hippopatumus]

Didn't the Nazis also use disease as an excuse to exclude Jews from society?

Yeah the Nazi Germany Wikipedia page is H I L A R I O U S *honk honk*

"At least 91 German Jews were killed during this pogrom, later called Kristallnacht, the Night of Broken Glass.[304][305] Further restrictions were imposed on Jews in the coming months – they were forbidden to own businesses or work in retail shops, drive cars, go to the cinema, visit the library, or own weapons, and Jewish pupils were removed from schools."

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

You're not coughing up pure virus, you're coughing up water/mucus droplets (with virus attached) which are significantly (tens to hundreds of times) larger than 100nm. This isn't that hard to understand holy shit.

Fauci said masks do nothing, dumbass.

Your lies are causing stupid cowards to take poison, and are making lockdown politically viable. Stop persecuting your fellows with your lies.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Not to powerlevel too much, but the last paragraph of that article above describes mine and my wife’s current situation fairly accurately. One of us gets free healthcare through Veteran status. The other has the job with healthcare for them and the kids. Back before COVID, we both worked full-time and that meant daycare for the kids plus a lot of eating out and precooked stuff from the store because after 10 hours of work for each of us, plus with the kids tired from school AND daycare, no one felt like cooking anything.

Turns out that with one of us home, (the one with no healthcare costs), and the other one working, we’re doing great. No more daycare costs for 2 kids. Cooking 3 meals at home a day and only having to pay the fuel cost for one car to work and back a day instead of two saves a TON of money too PLUS the best thing is that the kids aren’t having their school day extended by 2 hours due to our work schedules, and my wife and I aren’t overwhelmed by both working 40 hour weeks and then trying to get everything done in the 3-4 hours we’d have in the evenings and whatever time we could find on weekends. At least one of us now has the time to keep the home perfect, get everything done, while the other is at work. It’s fantastic, and my wife and I NEVER would have tried it if COVID hadn’t put one of us out of work. Anyway, just thought I’d mention it.

ok, but if we put it in the time value of money system, how much are you losing doing this compared to paying for that healthcare.

Also can spergs please stop shitting up this thread, i'm like 20 pages behind because of idiots deciding to argue everything

 

[Male Idiot]

Even those don't work if any air is getting out around the edges.

Wear glasses? Mask cause your glasses to fog up? Your mask is useless.

Never said they were fullproof.
But hey, it is all a gamble you just stack your modifiers. Vodka vaccine, mask, prepper vitamins, and if I can get it the pill that removes jews from inside horses.

All the vitamin c d and zinc made me feel somewhat better. Just memba, vitamin D needs some kalium or natrium supplement, look it up.

On the big graph, we need numbers of total population for it to mean anything, besides that it kills old people very reliably. Biggest spreaders are schoolkids unvaccinated or vaccinated late middle agers.

Lets say you got 50 deaths of both vaccinated and not groups.
If the population is 500 for both, it is the same.
But if it is 900 vaccinated and 100 not living in the measured area, or vice versa, then it is a wholly different matter, and that is left out of your analysis.

But if I read it right, age 50-59
Vaccinnated: 101284 cases, 126 dead
Not: 7211 cases, 108 dead

Now this again doesn't tell us the whole picture. There could be many of either groups out there, not severe enough to find.

But this means that your odds of dying are:
-0,124% if innoculated.
-1,49% if not, a 12 time increase.

For math: death/cases= chance of coofing to death.
Pureblood Siths 108/7211=0,0149
Poisoned sheeples 126/101284=0,00124

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

ok, but if we put it in the time value of money system, how much are you losing doing this compared to paying for that healthcare.

Also can spergs please stop shitting up this thread, i'm like 20 pages behind because of idiots deciding to argue everything

Well, one of us works and has healthcare through their employer for them and our kids. The other doesn’t work but has healthcare coverage due to their veteran status. It saves a hundred or 2 a month not having to have coverage on one of us so a penny saved is a penny earned but we were saving those pennies before COVID even started

It’s nowhere near what we save in childcare. Before and afterschool care is around $200 per kid per week. That’s $400 a week we’d be dropping each week that we don’t have to spend anymore. Plus I’ve got our grocery bill down to around $60 a week. That’s 2 times eating out or 3 times getting fast food for a family of 4 and that $60 goes the whole week cooking everything at home. We were probably blowing another $200 on that since my wife and I would both grab fast food on the way to work and for lunch most days. We just didn’t have time to make anything at home when we both worked. We didn’t have time for anything. We’ve got plenty of time now, plus the one of us who works has breakfast before they leave and packs lunch from home.

So saving $400 a week in childcare, conservatively, I’d say $200 a week on grocery/food costs, 1/2 the gas/upkeep on our cars because only one of us has to drive to and from work is at least a $50 savings. That means we’re saving at a minimum $650and I’d say most months it’s closer to $700. Since the one of us who stopped working to take care of the kids brought home around $700 net a month, you can see that we’re not losing anything. Plus we’re getting more time with our kids, a clean house all the time, home cooked meals all the time, someone there to take care of everything while everyone else is off doing what they need to do all the time. It’s worth it, (plus there are a bunch of ways to make a little extra cash if you want to doing stuff on the side like selling junk on Marketplace or gig work in your spare time.

 

[Ponzo]

I guess no more travel for unvaccinated Canadians, ever. You now need the jab to renew your passport.

 

[Czechem Republic]

Fauci said masks do nothing, dumbass.

Have you heard of "being wrong"? That was from 2/2020, when the bug was poorly characterized, when the best advice was "don't bother". Shockingly enough, better info came out later.

inb4 "mask wearing is an assault on muh freedoms"

 

[Ponzo]

Have you heard of "being wrong"? That was from 2/2020, when the bug was poorly characterized, when the best advice was "don't bother". Shockingly enough, better info came out later.

inb4 "mask wearing is an assault on muh freedoms"

Better info? Fauci has been in Government for decades and is the highest paid federal employee. This was not the first corona virus the US had to deal with since he had this job and there are only so many ways a virus can spread. He should have known by then how to respond and act accordingly.

 

[Czechem Republic]

Fauci has been in Government for decades and is the highest paid federal employee.

Are you seriously defending Fauci? Either his advice was good due to his competence or bad due to his incompetence. Choose one.

He should have known by then how to respond and act accordingly.

Nobody fucking knew - this was back when China was spraying disinfectant on surfaces before it was understood that covid doesn't last long enough for that to matter.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Instead he clapped along, a passenger when he should have been the driver and it ended up costing him the Presidency. Karma.

You're right he doesn't get a pass for that, but Trump being a passenger and not the driver is pretty much his entire presidency. But it's a night and day difference between him and Joe Brandon who deliberately oppresses Americans. Trump wouldn't be screaming at corporations to impose vaccine mandates because those damn dirty courts are getting in the way.

I don't think there's many world leaders at all who did well at this, for whatever reason. I think of major countries, Bolsonaro in Brazil was best because he called out the bullshit, but Brazil's judicial system and state politics are even more fucked than the US since it all appears to be the Brazilian equivalent of money-grubbing RINOs and commies. Who else, maybe John Magufuli in Tanzania who appears to have been assassinated?

Have you heard of "being wrong"? That was from 2/2020, when the bug was poorly characterized, when the best advice was "don't bother". Shockingly enough, better info came out later.

Except it wasn't, since SARS-1 was a thing and there's like 5 or 6 other coronaviruses that over a billion people contract yearly in the form of the common cold. Turns out there's plenty of study on that. Either Fauci is a straight up idiot who doesn't know science, or he was deliberately lying. Both mean he's absolutely unqualified to hold his position.

"Nobody knew" is not an argument because people know how viruses work. Assuming a human coronavirus is going to act wildly different than any other human coronavirus is like assuming a tiger is going to be a herbivore instead of eating meat like a lion or every other goddamn big cat.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Better info? Fauci has been in Government for decades and is the highest paid federal employee. This was not the first corona virus the US had to deal with since he had this job and there are only so many ways a virus can spread. He should have known by then how to respond and act accordingly.

Fauci is a faggot but it's highly unlikely that he's singlehandedly responsible for the situation in the US. When he gets sacrifice goat'd, remember that behind him there's a massive machine of medical civil servants.

 

[Czechem Republic]

Except it wasn't, since SARS-1 was a thing and there's like 5 or 6 other coronaviruses that over a billion people contract yearly in the form of the common cold. Turns out there's plenty of study on that. Either Fauci is a straight up idiot who doesn't know science, or he was deliberately lying. Both mean he's absolutely unqualified to hold his position.

"Nobody knew" is not an argument because people know how viruses work. Assuming a human coronavirus is going to act wildly different than any other human coronavirus is like assuming a tiger is going to be a herbivore instead of eating meat like a lion or every other goddamn big cat.

How many of those viruses wind up with neurological involvement, or causing life-threatening pneumonia? This virus is engineered. So no, it is not just another coronavirus.

 

[Mr Bunny]

How many of those viruses wind up with neurological involvement, or causing life-threatening pneumonia? This virus is engineered. So no, it is not just another coronavirus.

It still spreads like a cornoavirus.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Have you heard of "being wrong"? That was from 2/2020, when the best advice was "don't bother". Shockingly enough, better info came out later.

Fauci was being honest with a confidante in that email; the masks do nothing. He's been lying to the public for the last two years, and for decades before that. Masks are just safety theater to control the ignorant masses, as in you. Masks have not become more effective in the last two years. Let's all just trust Pfizer, the makers of the opioid epidemic with the health of the nation's citizens. Surely that's a good decision.

The lies you repeat make you a liar too. Your lies are harming society and harming your fellow citizens. My comfort is that true believers die hard; those espousing experimental gene therapy are the most likely to take it repeatedly, which hastens and worsens their painful death. Die hard, true believer.

Fauci is a faggot but it's highly unlikely that he's singlehandedly responsible for the situation in the US. When he gets sacrifice goat'd, remember that behind him there's a massive machine of medical civil servants.

Fauci is the massive machine of medical civil servants. He's at the top of that infernal machine. It's literally his position as head of those medical civil service departments.

How many of those viruses wind up with neurological involvement, or causing life-threatening pneumonia? This virus is engineered. So no, it is not just another coronavirus.

Fauci funded that and lied about it. He said the lab leak was conspiracy theory and completely unfounded, and that covid came from a wet market arising from an animal specimen. He deliberately obfuscated that the virus was engineered, and now you use one of his lies as a counterpoint in debate? Wow. True believers.

 

[Male Idiot]

How many of those viruses wind up with neurological involvement, or causing life-threatening pneumonia? This virus is engineered. So no, it is not just another coronavirus.

And the Americans and Fauci had the bugmen make it.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Fauci is the massive machine of medical civil servants. He's at the top of that infernal machine. It's literally his position as head of those medical civil service departments.

In modern world, every "tsar" and "king" has a slew of advisors and co-heads who actually handle day-to-day decisions and direction. You don't think he's a moustache-twirling villain, I hope? He's just a gray man in a bland suit, a cog in the machine.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

Are you seriously defending Fauci? Either his advice was good due to his competence or bad due to his incompetence. Choose one.

Nobody fucking knew - this was back when China was spraying disinfectant on surfaces before it was understood that covid doesn't last long enough for that to matter.

Airborne viruses not being stopped by worthless cloth masks isn't new information, retard. The virus is airborne. The masks don't do shit. Full fucking stop.