Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

You are correct but they also announced those games within a few months of them actually releasing, Skyrim was about 8 months later and Fallout 4 was 6. Bethesda used to at least be good about not announcing things until they had a concrete date but I think the scrabbling to recover all the good will lost with the shitshow known as Fallout 76 has screwed them up something bad.

Skyrim was announced December 2010 at the Video Game Awards I'm pretty sure so it was closer to 11 months with that.

I'd assume them revealing Starfield a year and a half before release has more to do with Microsoft wanting content for E3 than them being worried about backlash from Fallout 76. For how shitty the launch was and how much gamers threw a shit fit, very few seem to give a shit today.

 

[Acrid Alchemist]

Skyrim was announced December 2010 at the Video Game Awards I'm pretty sure so it was closer to 11 months with that.

I'd assume them revealing Starfield a year and a half before release has more to do with Microsoft wanting content for E3 than them being worried about backlash from Fallout 76. For how shitty the launch was and how much gamers threw a shit fit, very few seem to give a shit today.

Starfield's first announcement was E3 of 2018. It will have been 4 and half years since announcement to when it comes out. Elder Scrolls 6 is in a similar boat since it was announced the same day and we don't even have a year of release let alone an actual date. At the time of their announcements Fallout 76 was still a fresh sore spot. And both of these were before Microsoft bought them out so they didn't have a say in their announcements.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Starfield's first announcement was E3 of 2018. It will have been 4 and half years since announcement to when it comes out. Elder Scrolls 6 is in a similar boat since it was announced the same day and we don't even have a year of release let alone an actual date. And both of these were before Microsoft bought them out so they didn't have a say in their announcements.

Oh, you meant the title announcement.

I don't really count or pay attention to that so I wasn't thinking that. My bad.

 

[Maude Snew]

Who cares how bad it will be the brainlets who always buy Bethesda shit no questions ask and defend that shit everywhere will do the same again. Some of those will bitch about the game barely working but will be shouted down by the consoomer mob and the cycle will continue with the next one. There is no escaping the consoom they will make boat loads of cash.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Who cares how bad it will be the brainlets who always buy Bethesda shit no questions ask and defend that shit everywhere will do the same again. Some of those will bitch about the game barely working but will be shouted down by the consoomer mob and the cycle will continue with the next one. There is no escaping the consoom they will make boat loads of cash.

Dude it's like Nascar, people want to buy bethesda games day 1 so they can experience the crashes.

Hell since it's an exclusive and if it doesn't turn out to be liquid ass I may buy and xbox for it and then buy it again with the GOTY edition once all the DLC is out. Man cannot subsist on Skyrim re-releases alone.

 

[ZMOT]

Who cares how bad it will be the brainlets who always buy Bethesda shit no questions ask and defend that shit everywhere will do the same again. Some of those will bitch about the game barely working but will be shouted down by the consoomer mob and the cycle will continue with the next one. There is no escaping the consoom they will make boat loads of cash.

we'll see. one of the reasons bethesda games usually get a pass because you know someone will fix it and you can mod it to your heart's content. it's one of the reasons people still buy and play it. the moment they shut that down they're veering off into cp2077 territory.

 

[Marissa Moira]

we'll see. one of the reasons bethesda games usually get a pass because you know someone will fix it and you can mod it to your heart's content. it's one of the reasons still buy and play it. the moment they shut that down they're veering off into cp2077 territory.

I don't think Starfield is being offered on Steam or Epic though. It's a Microsoft store exclusive on PC I think.

Microsoft is still very much anti-dicking around with their programs. Especially since they've been pushing their service programs. Having mods for a game that would be offered via streaming would certainly cause issues.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Why buy it when you can just get a gamepass trial for like 1 dollar?

 

[Marissa Moira]

Why buy it when you can just get a gamepass trial for like 1 dollar?

That's the thing, you're now under layers of DRM if it's a streamed service. They're not going to want to have you open it up and make fixes to files because then you can easily pirate a copy.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

That's the thing, you're now under layers of DRM if it's a streamed service. They're not going to want to have you open it up and make fixes to files because then you can easily pirate a copy.

I'm able to mod games on Game Pass no problem so...

 

[Marissa Moira]

I'm able to mod games on Game Pass no problem so...

You still can't instapop achievements like the PC can. You're able to upload pre-approved mods for some games, but you're still limited.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

You still can't instapop achievements like the PC can. You're able to upload pre-approved mods for some games, but you're still limited.

I will never understand the obsession with game achievements. Fuck em

And I've never seen this "pre approved" mod nonsense on Gamepass you're talking about but I also don't play that much on Gamepass. Got any examples? I know you've brought this up in other threads even though Microsoft and Bethesda have been extremely open to modding so far, much more than your darlings at Sony who actually do partake in pre approved mods.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I will never understand the obsession with game achievements. Fuck em

And I've never seen this "pre approved" mod nonsense on Gamepass you're talking about but I also don't play that much on Gamepass. Got any examples? I know you've brought this up in other threads even though Microsoft and Bethesda have been extremely open to modding so far, much more than your darlings at Sony who actually do partake in pre approved mods.

Microsoft in general is king of bloat if you're using their OS or office programs, trying to fully remove their shit willingly has always been an annoyance so it's been better to try and find a free alternative.

The Microsoft Store is the successor to Games for Windows Live, now if you used that service and kept everything check with Microsoft, sure everything worked fine. But loads of shit got fucked over when GFWL got discontinued. It took a good amount of work to unfuck shit after GFWL bit it. Now they're tying the Microsoft store to Xbox as one big marketplace and it still functions the same as GFWL.

Microsoft has always been not all that open to software modding mostly due to the fact that this pretty much their bread and butter. The company now has multiple subscription programs for all their software. why? Well the the subscription packages are all shit you don't own, you pay to have access granted to you. This is mostly because it's considered the primary anti-piracy method so people won't go in and try and alter and copy shit.

Microsoft allowing xbox on PC platforms isn't a form of good will because you'll be running windows and you'll be needing to buy stuff from their online store platform. You're still within their ecosystem, that's the only reason it's happening. You'll be very much under their thumb when it comes to stuff that effects gameplay performance like mods and all of that. Microsoft Store is a direct competitor to Steam, they're going to want you to use their own stuff and have you become more dependent on their storefront as time goes on.

Say a mod winds up fucking shit up for Halo infinity like what happens with Grand Theft Auto 5. These games are all on publicly maintained servers by the company, they'll ban your ass from playing further.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Say a mod winds up fucking shit up for Halo infinity like what happens with Grand Theft Auto 5. These games are all on publicly maintained servers by the company, they'll ban your ass from playing further.

This has nothing to do with Microsoft or Gamepass. If you're caught using mods in online games you typically get banned regardless of what service you bought it from.

Do you even use Gamepass? The fact you keep calling it "streaming" is really suspect and all you seem to do is keep pointing to stuff from 10-20 years ago.

And all that aside, it makes no sense that you're worried about paying full price to play Starfield, but when someone mentions you can just use a 1 dollar game pass trial to try it out you freak out as if you are forced to use it forever.

 

[Marissa Moira]

This has nothing to do with Microsoft or Gamepass. If you're caught using mods in online games you typically get banned regardless of what service you bought it from.

Do you even use Gamepass? The fact you keep calling it "streaming" is really suspect and all you seem to do is keep pointing to stuff from 10-20 years ago.

And all that aside, it makes no sense that you're worried about paying full price to play Starfield, but when someone mentions you can just use a 1 dollar game pass trial to try it out you freak out as if you are forced to use it forever.

I'm not worried about paying full price, I'm more concerned about future bethesda games being less accessible than what they were prior. I don't really trust Microsoft to leave things open because that's not how they've behaved in the past.

Stuff like Gamepass puts more distance between you and the software. That's why i don't really care for it and similar services.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I'm not worried about paying full price, I'm more concerned about future bethesda games being less accessible than what they were prior.

But there is literally no justification for this yet as Microsoft has opened up modding to their consoles, and the game isn't an online multiplayer game.

Like I said, you're focusing on shit from 10-20 years ago and completely ignoring the stuff they have done in the last 5.

 

[Marissa Moira]

But there is literally no justification for this yet as Microsoft has opened up modding to their consoles, and the game isn't an online multiplayer game.

Like I said, you're focusing on shit from 10-20 years ago and completely ignoring the stuff they have done in the last 5.

The modding they've opened has been very limited, they're not exactly allowing it across the board and the circumstances it was allowed were all grandfathered in. Starfield isn't a re-release, it's a new game and a new IP.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

The modding they've opened has been very limited, they're not exactly allowing it across the board and the circumstances it was allowed were all grandfathered in. Starfield isn't a re-release, it's a new game and a new IP.

The Xbox app finally lets you choose where to install your PC games

Microsoft is finally updating the Xbox and Microsoft Store apps on Windows so you can specify a folder to install your games to. The change will be available soon to people who install the Xbox Insider Hub app and is expected to be in beta before the release of Halo Infinite on December 8...

www.pcgamer.com

The change removes the barriers Windows uses to prevent you from accessing your game files, which has kept people from installing and using mods. Some games currently allow mods, but they only allow you to access a dedicated mods folder. With this change, you'll be able to install mods directly into your game files like you can do on Steam.

Could it all turn out to be shit? Sure. But everything points to Microsoft trying to make modding more open than not.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Starfield flops critically, 70 receive aggregated on Meta, player scores will vary widly because there are no mods fixxing the sexbots yet, the game is so broken ho ho hoe..

125h in I decide the game is okay Bethesda fare.

 

[cybertoaster]

So oblivion in space?