Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

renée remains insane said:
Hey guys,
As one of the chosen few who actually makes MORE money since this mess started, I totes think y'all should keep doing what the people who created this mess say... the fact that they also profit from your prolonged misery is purely coincidental. You must ignore your gut feelings and actual experiences of these reactions. Remember, keep doing what didn't work last year until it works again.
Bro, The Covid testing system is totally not a mass scam, Bro.
p.s. there is NOTHING scary about forcing every human on earth to take one of two experimental medical interventions.
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Lol, calm down. If secret watcher's stickers are causing you butthurt like a hard cock then go get lube.
 
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renée remains insane said:
Hey guys,
As one of the chosen few who actually makes MORE money since this mess started, I totes think y'all should keep doing what the people who created this mess say... the fact that they also profit from your prolonged misery is purely coincidental. You must ignore your gut feelings and actual experiences of these reactions. Remember, keep doing what didn't work last year until it works again.
Bro, The Covid testing system is totally not a mass scam, Bro.
p.s. there is NOTHING scary about forcing every human on earth to take one of two experimental medical interventions.
k, thanks bbz
xoxo
Secret Arsehole.
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I am poor as shit. I don't work for a pharmaceutical company. Shocker, researchers don't get paid much at all.

Also scientists have no say in policy. I EXPLICITLY mentioned I was avoiding politics. Yes, they're going to profit off of misery. I have a little life tip for you: EVERYONE TRIES TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF TRAGEDY AND BAD SHIT. It doesn't mean this was a generated event or the people caused it. At the very least these people aren't scamming you or trying to kill you. In most cases, you're not even paying for it. The government is, and if you're screaming about the government spending money on stupid shit, hint: they all do. This is not different.

Wow, mass scam. Alright. The free testing we're doing for the poor is totally scamming people, even though buying those boxes cost tens of thousands of dollars and PCR is expensive. We're totally scammers bro, our non-profit organization that takes money from donors is totally scamming the government and the people. Like, you know, these tests are designed to give you mega aids.

If this were the age where the WHO was eradicating small pox or polio, people would say the exact same thing. Jesus christ you are stupid.

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OH SHIT BRO ITS AN NGO WATCH OUT FOR THE SOROS PLANT DUDES
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Wow, mass scam. Alright. The free testing we're doing for the poor is totally scamming people, even though buying those boxes cost tens of thousands of dollars and PCR is expensive. We're totally scammers bro, our non-profit organization that takes money from donors is totally scamming the government and the people. Like, you know, these tests are designed to give you mega aids.
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The test doesn't give you superaids, the test just promotes the infantilization of the general population.

When the tests are free, it mean the government/taxpayer are footing the bill.

When I had my first one I literally laughed in the guys face, I can't believe you people have been getting away with such a lame scam for so long... Yeah rub this stick up your nose and then the government can tell you if you are healthy. I got such second hand embarrassment for anyone who willingly took one of the things. I'm so sorry you got caught up in this mess and I feel sorry that you feel compelled to defend it.
 
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renée remains insane said:
When the tests are free, it mean the government/taxpayer are footing the bill.

When I had my first one I literally laughed in the guys face, I can't believe you people have been getting away with such a lame scam for so long... Yeah rub this stick up your nose and then the government can tell you if you are healthy. I got such second hand embarrassment for anyone who willingly took one of the things. I'm so sorry you got caught up in this mess and I feel sorry that you feel compelled to defend it.
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Just understand this.

I'm not forcing people or approve of forcing people to do something they don't want to do. I do not believe COVID is serious enough to warrant forced universal vaccination. Is it bad? Yes. But there is established treatment for it. Its not like the measles where there's no established treatment, where I do believe that vaccination should be compulsory. I don't play with my health and the after-effects of COVID are bad, especially if you get re-infected. I'm also pointing out that the current data does not support the hysterics of the vaccine. Can this change in the future? Of course. But right now, there is simply no evidence besides that the vaccine should not be given to children and minors.

I am simply pointing out what is out there and I do believe some protection is better than none. At the very least it may prevent it from transferring to a loved one. And like I said, I don't think there's any evidence in boosters, especially now we're starting to see new strains.

The flu vaccine is based on which strain is dominant. Until we know that, I don't think constantly getting boosters is worth it.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Just understand this.

I'm not forcing people or approve of forcing people to do something they don't want to do. I do not believe COVID is serious enough to warrant forced universal vaccination. Is it bad? Yes. But there is established treatment for it. Its not like the measles where there's no established treatment, where I do believe that vaccination should be compulsory. I don't play with my health and the after-effects of COVID are bad, especially if you get re-infected. I'm also pointing out that the current data does not support the hysterics of the vaccine. Can this change in the future? Of course. But right now, there is simply no evidence besides that the vaccine should not be given to children and minors.

I am simply pointing out what is out there and I do believe some protection is better than none. At the very least it may prevent it from transferring to a loved one. And like I said, I don't think there's any evidence in boosters, especially now we're starting to see new strains.

The flu vaccine is based on which strain is dominant. Until we know that, I don't think constantly getting boosters is worth it.
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What's your take on natural immunity vs vax immunity? Natural seems pretty strong compared to vax.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
What's your take on natural immunity vs vax immunity? Natural seems pretty strong compared to vax.
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Natural is better simply because your body can recognize multiple antigens on the COVID virus while the vaccine is only one antigen.

That being said, you can't control what antigens your body recognizes while you can with a vaccine. So for some people, vaccine immunity might be better. Again, we're all different, so I can't conclusively say with 100% certainty. This is just my opinion.
 
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@Secret Asshole
Is the resulting data shocking? No. Fatal cases were 3%, but again, that is from every source, not just from the vaccine.
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So you're saying they count fatalities from the vaccine similarly to how they treat deaths from COVID itself, or...? (he died falling off a ladder and our PCR test with a coin flip chance of testing positive results in a COVID death)
 
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@Secret Asshole


So you're saying they count fatalities from the vaccine in the same way they treat deaths from COVID itself, or...? (he died falling off a ladder and our PCR test with a coin flip chance of testing positive results in a COVID death)
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They do. It might be people who had COVID and got the vaccine and died. It might be a guy who falls off a ladder, but they might not have his medical chart or medical info, so they have to mark it down as a fatality. These are all possibilities.

Its done like this because 1) They don't want to ignore something and then get sued and 2) It errs on the side of caution and is frankly good practice, because its better you have all of the data then let something slip by.

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Also, remember, the Pfizer study I'm talking about is being done to find out what adverse effects there are, not their frequency. So in this case, they will try to document everything under the sun.
 
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Good news (for USA): Vaccine Mandates are getting blocked and the struggle to finally be rid of them seems to be going favorably.

Also @Secret Asshole thanks for taking the time to come into the thread. I know this subject can be exhausting as it is and I can imagine that goes double for anyone working in this field or similar. @Otterly has been MIA periodically due to her work too. Thanks for lending your assessment and perspective. No one is going to agree on every point since we're not drones but taking the time out should still appreciated, especially when you do it for free lol
Thanks.

Secret Asshole said:
Also, remember, the Pfizer study I'm talking about is being done to find out what adverse effects there are, not their frequency. So in this case, they will try to document everything under the sun.
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Which is what I want to see since that's exactly what ought to be done, shouldn't it? First comes data collection and then sifting through it for validity and frequency. For many it seems as though they'd prefer AEs to just be turned away at the door because either they aren't frequent enough or there's some which prove unrelated.

EDIT: On your earlier points,
I appreciate you wanting to avoid the politicization of this subject. I also appreciate your concern over people picking up scientific studies and parading them around, let alone with an air of knowing, as if they are smoking guns in favor of/against Covid or its vaccines. Same goes for your detailed argument against blindly trusting doctors/scientists, particularly from social media. Your argument against the "argument of authority" is immediately applicable and crucial to everyone regardless of their stance on the matter.

However I disagree about the notion that people who aren't scientists/knowledgeable in this field should avoid picking up scientific studies and assessing them, particularly from a summation or the abstract. Your concern over heralding every study as basically the voice of God is fair, especially those not yet peer-reviewed--the vax was already being sent for emergency approval before there were any peer-reviewed studies after all. If anyone has a problem with that (and they should) then they can't apply the same slipshod haste to other things they like.

But it is because we paid attention to the published (and reviewed) studies early on that we were basically able to predict the danger of the Spike protein and its effect on the vascular system. We were talking about the Salk Institute's study long before they started vaccinating youths and, thereafter, had VAERS flooded with myocarditis reports (and thereafter the CDC, upon investigation, found that heart inflammation was certainly linked to the Covid vaccines). If more people had paid attention to that early on then countless adults and especially youths would not have had to been diagnosed with pericarditis/myocarditis.

TL;DR I agree with not flagging scientific papers and medical reports as Voice of God and I agree with not just embracing anyone "science" simply because of what they say/how they explain it. However, I do not agree we should avoid discussing and reading medical studies/scientific publications simply because our lack of knowledge can lead to misunderstanding. If we pay attention to detail and don't put on airs, if we're honest and don't carry pretense of knowing, then we can be greatly informed in matter which otherwise would catch us off-guard, like with the Spike protein.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I spend my nights not sleeping because I am boning your mom, it has nothing to do with vaccinations. We hear you waking up in the middle of the night and coming up the stairs and wondering what the noise is... well, now you know
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You can't have sex because the vaccine made your penis shrivel up and blow away in the wind.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
At the very least it may prevent it from transferring to a loved one.
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I should point out that neither Pfizer nor the CDC claim that the jab prevents transmission. In fact, the CDC has cautioned that vaxies are just as infectious as normal people when it comes to current variants (e.g. Delta). While they may have claimed that was the reason for mandatory mass vaccination in the beginning, all current messaging is that it protects oneself, not one's neighbors or family.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
They do. It might be people who had COVID and got the vaccine and died. It might be a guy who falls off a ladder, but they might not have his medical chart or medical info, so they have to mark it down as a fatality. These are all possibilities.

Its done like this because 1) They don't want to ignore something and then get sued and 2) It errs on the side of caution and is frankly good practice, because its better you have all of the data then let something slip by.

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Also, remember, the Pfizer study I'm talking about is being done to find out what adverse effects there are, not their frequency. So in this case, they will try to document everything under the sun.
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I've seen listings on VAERS where it was "Death due to car accident" and things like that
 
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This expression indicates The Hulkster's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with something he can not understand or respond to, Hulk mumbles, "Muh dick" or "Muh dick, muthafucka." This is usually followed by crotch grabbing and foot shuffling.
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The racist spaz obsessed with mocking a dead black guy is upset that I am banging his mom

Mr Bunny said:
One of the side effects is swelling in the balls.
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No it's not. A side effect on VAERS was the guys dong increased 3 inches though!
 
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