Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Cincinnatus]

This is true, but not Jazz's case. Jeanette isn't into progressive shit, she's at most an ordinary basic bitch who consumes media and has a terrible case of narcissism.

Her only reason to troon her child is because she thought that a boy playing with dolls meant the boy was secretly a girl, which was later confirmed by "health experts" she talked with. That and the need to have an "special kid".

She has Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It's a disorder where you convince people your kid has an illness just to get attention.

 

[Putin Bot]

No doubt if being trans wasn't a thing, Jeannette would have gone the Dee Dee Blanchard route with Jazz instead. The whole sickening part of this shit is Jeannette hasn't isolated just her and Jazz. She's involving the whole family in with her abuse of Jazz.

I still think Harvard won't be a reality for Jazz. There's just no way that Jeannette could ever let go control of him, and I'm sure she's worried that Jazz would tell people the truth of his transition and reality, because she always tries to stop any negative talk of his SRS and transition, lest it scare kids and parents away.

How I hope things turn out? He goes to Harvard, realizes the horrible shit he's gone through and gets a support network around him, then sues and charges his parents for child abuse and also sues TLC for actively documenting him being abused, but did nothing to stop it. If he can't go after the doctors, the next best thing is to go after the ones who actively let all this shit happen to him.

 

[Gilkore]

—Father lets son be castrated.
—Surely feminism is to blame.



Greg is just a spineless cuck who checked out on child rearing and let Jeanette take the reins. Their family and marriage seems pretty 50’s traditional, if twisted by Jeanette’s narcissism: Greg earns the money, Jeanette spends it on tacky crap for a filthy home. Greg works long hours, Jeanette overparents and overinvolves herself in the kids (leading to failure-to-launch Sander and the disaster that is Jaron). Greg works an actual job, Jeanette putters around with the occasional vanity side project.

Spoiler

People who regularly come into these threads to reeeee about women being to blame for this stuff are lazy, obnoxious, and probably blame women every time they stub a toe. I'm a woman who has been directly harmed by genderist garbage myself, and know that 2nd wave feminists set off alarm bells regarding troons from the start, etc etc etc. But as dumb as "the feminists did troons, JFK, and 9/11" is, saying "omg no, there's absolutely no way a major modern political movement centered on sex/gender with various and conflicting branches, wide-ranging implications for academia, marriage, and child bearing/rearing should be examined as having any intersecting part of gender mania, nope, those people pushing the idea that gender can be dissolved and abolished had no part in this, nothing to see there" is the other extreme imo. That doesn't mean "wamman forced man to troon out bc elaborate Escher-like excuses as to why everything is somehow their fault " though.

None of this shit will get resolved in this thread, or any thread, anyway. Just like every time someone suggests the LGB is in any way implicated in or paved the way for the T. Half the thread chimps out, the other half spergs, etc, and we all carry on being Josh's awful children lol

Anywaaaay to bring this back to Jazz, now that I've derailed in the very way I just objected to:

So if Greg is just a paralyzed cuck who lets his wife run the house and castrate his own son, what might that have looked like in a different era, I wonder? What twisted shrew bullshit does a woman like that get up to without this kind of abuse handy? MbP has been mentioned, but I think she'd be very aggressive about it if she went that route. Or maybe just straight up slowly secretly poisoning one of them tbh. I wouldn't put anything past her. There seem to be different "types" of moms who troon out their kids, and she seems more like the "wtf is wrong with you" meddling spiteful type (poisoner) and less like the "oh my poor sick baby" type tbh (also completely evil but more outwardly "sweet")

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I still think Harvard won't be a reality for Jazz. There's just no way that Jeannette could ever let go control of him, and I'm sure she's worried that Jazz would tell people the truth of his transition and reality, because she always tries to stop any negative talk of his SRS and transition, lest it scare kids and parents away.

Honestly considering the recent documentary about an FtM kid whose bones started aching from being on puberty blockers for just a few years, I wonder how many health issues Jazz has that Jeanette/TLC are keeping from becoming public? We did see a row of pills that Jazz had to take daily, but most of those only seemed to be from mental issues so far.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

She has Munchausen syndrome by proxy. It's a disorder where you convince people your kid has an illness just to get attention.

I think this is a probable scenario, but remember that Jeannette had other three kids before Jazz and she never showed any intention to harm them. Either this Munchausen was triggered after Jazz was born or it's something else.

Besides, she didn't convince anyone, she was convinced after she saw certain signs on Jazz, that he was trans in the same way many mothers are convinced their children are gifted and make them study hard or play an instrument to the point of abuse or sign them up for beauty pageants. This is a common factor and I don't think it's Munchausen, it's mothers simply being narcissist and living through their kids.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

an FtM kid whose bones started aching from being on puberty blockers for just a few years,

"Just a few years" is WAY too long. For adults with cancer it's recommended to take gnrh agonists (aka drugs that are also used to block puberty) for not more than 6 months because of the terrible side effects.

 

[Bumbler]

Spoiler

People who regularly come into these threads to reeeee about women being to blame for this stuff are lazy, obnoxious, and probably blame women every time they stub a toe. I'm a woman who has been directly harmed by genderist garbage myself, and know that 2nd wave feminists set off alarm bells regarding troons from the start, etc etc etc. But as dumb as "the feminists did troons, JFK, and 9/11" is, saying "omg no, there's absolutely no way a major modern political movement centered on sex/gender with various and conflicting branches, wide-ranging implications for academia, marriage, and child bearing/rearing should be examined as having any intersecting part of gender mania, nope, those people pushing the idea that gender can be dissolved and abolished had no part in this, nothing to see there" is the other extreme imo. That doesn't mean "wamman forced man to troon out bc elaborate Escher-like excuses as to why everything is somehow their fault " though.

None of this shit will get resolved in this thread, or any thread, anyway. Just like every time someone suggests the LGB is in any way implicated in or paved the way for the T. Half the thread chimps out, the other half spergs, etc, and we all carry on being Josh's awful children lol

Anywaaaay to bring this back to Jazz, now that I've derailed in the very way I just objected to:

So if Greg is just a paralyzed cuck who lets his wife run the house and castrate his own son, what might that have looked like in a different era, I wonder? What twisted shrew bullshit does a woman like that get up to without this kind of abuse handy? MbP has been mentioned, but I think she'd be very aggressive about it if she went that route. Or maybe just straight up slowly secretly poisoning one of them tbh. I wouldn't put anything past her. There seem to be different "types" of moms who troon out their kids, and she seems more like the "wtf is wrong with you" meddling spiteful type (poisoner) and less like the "oh my poor sick baby" type tbh (also completely evil but more outwardly "sweet")

In a different era, I'm gonna say Ed Gein.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Besides, she didn't convince anyone, she was convinced after she saw certain signs on Jazz, that he was trans

He was only 5 years old when he was diagnosed with gender disphoria.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

I'm thinking she's a run-of-the-mill malignant narcissist parent. It's manifested in various ways with her behaviour and the rest of the family.
Jazz specifically is the "golden child". She obsesses over him, micromanages his life, expects him to do things a certain way and then rages if he defies her plans. She wants a special high achieving kid she can brag about and make herself look good, rather than for the kid to have the best opportunities in life and fulfil his potential.
He's also the youngest, so you have the whole thing of her wanting to keep him a baby forever. On the one hand she makes him helpless and dependent on her, on the other she berates him for that same helplessness she's encouraged in him. Kind of reminds me of Barb, though it won't end the same way since she had him castrated and all.

 

[behindyourightnow]

This is true, but not Jazz's case. Jeanette isn't into progressive shit, she's at most an ordinary basic bitch who consumes media and has a terrible case of narcissism.

Her only reason to troon her child is because she thought that a boy playing with dolls meant the boy was secretly a girl, which was later confirmed by "health experts" she talked with. That and the need to have an "special kid".

I came across a parent of a "trans child" on twitter that struck me as the same way, except this one did not even have the narcissism that Jeanette has (she kept the kid off social media for the most part). Some people are just not very bright and think that anyone who sounds authoritative must be correct, and then after that they have no ability or desire to self-reflect. If it was 40 years earlier they'd be faithfully dropping their effeminate son off every weekend at the home of the local overly affectionate Catholic priest who has "taken a liking to him." If it was 300 years earlier they'd be sitting there patiently while a doctor drained all their kid's blood with leeches because he had the sniffles.

It's one of the reasons I am particularly disgusted at the "experts" who are dragging moron parents into this shit.

 

[Loony Tunes]

No doubt if being trans wasn't a thing, Jeannette would have gone the Dee Dee Blanchard route with Jazz instead. The whole sickening part of this shit is Jeannette hasn't isolated just her and Jazz. She's involving the whole family in with her abuse of Jazz.

I still think Harvard won't be a reality for Jazz. There's just no way that Jeannette could ever let go control of him, and I'm sure she's worried that Jazz would tell people the truth of his transition and reality, because she always tries to stop any negative talk of his SRS and transition, lest it scare kids and parents away.

How I hope things turn out? He goes to Harvard, realizes the horrible shit he's gone through and gets a support network around him, then sues and charges his parents for child abuse and also sues TLC for actively documenting him being abused, but did nothing to stop it. If he can't go after the doctors, the next best thing is to go after the ones who actively let all this shit happen to him.

I’m pretty sure jazz went for fall semester, no?

 

[and I must scream]

He was only 5 years old when he was diagnosed with gender disphoria.

3 years old. He was 3 years old when he was diagnosed with gender disphoria.

 

[Totallyunknown]

I think this is a probable scenario, but remember that Jeannette had other three kids before Jazz and she never showed any intention to harm them. Either this Munchausen was triggered after Jazz was born or it's something else.

Besides, she didn't convince anyone, she was convinced after she saw certain signs on Jazz, that he was trans in the same way many mothers are convinced their children are gifted and make them study hard or play an instrument to the point of abuse or sign them up for beauty pageants. This is a common factor and I don't think it's Munchausen, it's mothers simply being narcissist and living through their kids.

The fact she already had three kids and was on her fourth makes it a lot less exciting for others in the family. MBP is driven by attention, which is also a symptom of narcisstic personality disorder.

My theory would be people did not fawn over her being pregnant or giving birth or she was feeling the strain of sharing the attention of her children (with her husband or her own mother) and was looking for a way to bring that attention back to herself. At some point she heard the vague idea of transgender children and that is probably the best MBP grift, easily. It's kind of hard to convince a kid they are sick without physically harming them to make them physically sick. Kids will do and say what they want. The gender thing is in the hands of the parents to decide pretty much based on their opinions and perspectives. And then, like other munchies, found the exact doctors willing to echo these sentiments about necessary surgeries on a healthy child because gender.

She kind of hit the MBP jackpot and accomplished more than DeeDee with not only her family but like a million people watching.

I guess Jazz is biologically a boy but at this point, having been raised as they were, looking the way they do, they might as well join the nullification crowd of "no gender" because they can't be a woman but they definitely can't go back to being a man now. So they're kind of just a sauntering flesh sack pumped full of hormones and SSRIs. Kind of bummed myself out...

 

[T.E.R.F]

I finally got around to watching the first episode. I don't actually remember the last time I saw this series. Aside from the lynchian horror value, it really is such a boring show, even by reality tv standards. I have no idea what normies are watching this and how it's made it to 7 seasons. Some previous posters already mentioned some of these things but here are my random takes:

Spoiler

-Season opens with a flashback and it's SO stark to see how big Jazz has gotten in so little time. He looks like he's going to pop in the opening interview, complete with a breathy, gaspy, fat cadence of speaking

-Opens with beer/paddleboat tour to celebrate wonky-eyed granny's birthday. The family keeps telling us how much they all love each other but everything feels awkward and stilted, even with the editing. Does anyone in this family talk like a normal person.

-We meet Chris. She's annoying, fat, and woke. An obvious terminal cat lady but she still makes sure to show cleaveage. Jeanette describes her as an "LGBT+ expert" and in the "field" for more than 20 years. A real scholar.

-Her and Jeanette talk because apparently another tranny with a big following made a video criticizing Jazz. Jeanette's resentment for Jazz is finally coming through this season. Like really coming through.

-The next plot point takes them to a very unsettling Irish surgeon who Jazz will eventually intern for. Jazz and Jeanette are nervous that Jazz will need more surgery, and are elated the doctor doesn't think he needs it. But it's like...??? Your neovagina is so mangled looking you're not even sure whether it requires surgery? Is hearing "no" really much of a relief?

-Choice quote from Jazz: "I have a mini FUPA...fat upper [bleeped] area...I play with....I play with-- *laughs* --I mean I like press it." Producer chimes in: "It's like a little pillow."

-Jeanette, Jazz, Ari, fat woke lady go to a lame arranged drawing session with a nude model. I'm expecting some young, hot guy to step out...but no, some faggy fit gay dude in his 50s comes out. Like yeah, he looks great for his age but I don't think Ari is thirsting after some homosexual older than her father. Grandma Jackie: "I don't know where to put my eyes." Punch line writes itself. More awkward, fake, forced interaction between this loving family. "I laughed so hard my face hurts" says a clearly unenthused Jeanette.

-And the film crew must have only had time for them to draw about 10 minutes because all of their drawings are like...abnormally bad? Not even like random person who can't draw bad but like developmentally delayed bad. I think someone posted pics already.

-Assorted weird shit from Jeanette: "Obviously I like penises enough to produce 4 children...I'm around [penises] every day, just with clothing on." *laughs*

-Why does Greg sound like he's always speaking at 80% volume or something? Everything about him just feels so lethargic. Or just like robotic and awkward. I just wanna see him fucking lose it at Jeanette or show any kind of energy/emotion at all. Does he just shut down in front of the cameras or is he actually this milquetoast all the time? Cuck!

-Watching Jazz intern at the office, he's just so awkward around people despite growing up in the spotlight from a young age.

-We watch Jeanette and fat woke lady virtually confront T.S. Madison for saying Jazz' problems stem from Jeanette's abusive decisions. Agreed that the original vid is probably fake. It wouldn't be the first time the show has staged haters. What does surprise me is that, ghetto over the top sassy black persona aside, everything T.S. Madison is saying obviously makes sense and there's not really much to argue against. So I'm just surprised they wouldn't create more of a strawman so we could sympathize with Jeanette.

But it's such a pointless conversation.

"Why is Jazz so fucked up?"

"It has nothing to do with the surgery because she was clinically depressed long before that!" Jeanette says matter of factly as if this helps her case

"Then what was it?"

"It was clinical depression"

But never once, in a show dedicated to going "mental health rock!" every episode, do we ever hear the slightest discussion of what might be the root cause of all this magical depression. Are normies just supposed to think Jazz is just sometimes inexplicably sad and fat with three normal siblings but it's just a coincidence and totally not about the trans thing?

tl;dr this is a dumb show and I don't know why it's on air

 

[Positron]

Was this related to the video where she said it was a travesty that a surgeon sent a patient's removed breast tissue to pathology to be tested for cancer?

You always send everything that has a remote chance to be cancerous to Pathology -- breasts, balls, dicks. If Exulansic fumes at that she knows even less about clinical practice than I assumed.

 

[Muttnik]

YouTube was streaming the new episode earlier and I was able to watch it. Will post my summary either tonight or tomorrow. Brace yourselves because this one is a FUCKING MESS and I felt my frustration hitch more than once.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

The family keeps telling us how much they all love each other but everything feels awkward and stilted, even with the editing. Does anyone in this family talk like a normal person.

I think they do in their real lives, something Jazz doesn't have. That's what I think it's gonna be very difficult for him to adapt to a life when he has to interact with others without a script and a crowd to congratulate him whenever he says something right.

 

[DoorPost101]

3 years old. He was 3 years old when he was diagnosed with gender disphoria.

Children at that age believe that fairies and Santa Claus is real. Where was the adult that should have known this about 3 year old children? Horrifying.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

YouTube was streaming the new episode earlier and I was able to watch it. Will post my summary either tonight or tomorrow. Brace yourselves because this one is a FUCKING MESS and I felt my frustration hitch more than once.

I am watching it and this is v. cursed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsIVIX1JZ3s

(The ad is a fundraiser to build a lift for a masjid in NYC to make it ADA compliant. Even YouTube knows this show is haram.)

 

[Free the Pedos]

You always send everything that has a remote chance to be cancerous to Pathology -- breasts, balls, dicks. If Exulansic fumes at that she knows even less about clinical practice than I assumed.

I generally like her a lot but she should have said from the beginning that she's a speech pathologist and not a pathologist.