Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[mr.moon1488]

I think i might speak for us all if there is a war with Russia I want no part of it, im not going to war against other Christians , and im not gonna die for Biden, the global elites, homos and troons.

Most of the problems of the past couple hundred years could have been avoided if Christians had taken this stance on things.

 

[Richardface]

Given that Ukranians are apparently mentally disabled, we should give all of their women asylum in the USA, pressure Brazil to give their men asylum, and sell what's left of Ukraine to Poland. Poland at least isn't stupid enough to provoke a former superpower into invading them while also selling their land, women, and sovereignty to the same NKVD ethnics that raped and butchered them 3 generations ago.

What? Strategic pridefulness and stupidity has been Poland's thing for centuries

 

[MysticLord]

What? Strategic pridefulness and stupidity has been Poland's thing for centuries

I don't disagree. Poland essentially started WWII by ethnically cleansing Germans from regions that had been German for hundreds of years, and they did it with the belief that Britain would somehow save them from Germany. It was a ploy by the Soviets and their moles in the USA and Britain to get a land border with Germany, from which the USSR could invade Germany.

However, Poland is no longer as populous as they were, they depend on Russian oil, 50 years of forcible sodomy from the Germans and then the Russians has made them very wary. And as bad as they are, Ukrainians are worse.

 

[East_Clintwood]

I could be wrong, but I also doubt America is feeling up for another war after 20 years of dicking around in the desert being ended with a humiliating bitchslap from the Taliban

Never underestimate the establishments willingness for another war, even after the Iraq/Afghanistan shitshows. That's probably even more true for a war with Russia given:
A) its unlikely to devolve into the same insurgency clusterfuck as the others
B) most of the boomers in charge probably spent their early service in, or under people, planning for the potential soviet zergrush, so have unfulfilled fantasies to realise
C) the establishment sees Russia as an eminently winnable fight, especially if it stays a fairly localised conventional fight over Ukraine.

That being said I doubt anything will actually come of this, it's the usual east-west dock waving contest

 

[Meat Target]

Scuttlebutt on Bloomberg is that the US will seek to shut down the Nord Stream 2 pipline if Russia invades.

Wait... didn't Trump try to do that in office?

 

[LillWeeb]

Never underestimate the establishments willingness for another war, even after the Iraq/Afghanistan shitshows. That's probably even more true for a war with Russia given:
A) its unlikely to devolve into the same insurgency clusterfuck as the others
B) most of the boomers in charge probably spent their early service in, or under people, planning for the potential soviet zergrush, so have unfulfilled fantasies to realise
C) the establishment sees Russia as an eminently winnable fight, especially if it stays a fairly localised conventional fight over Ukraine.

That being said I doubt anything will actually come of this, it's the usual east-west dock waving contest

I wonder if the boomers that run things, expect everyone to be unified like in ww2, despite the US being far less homogenous, Would leftest blacks, ect.. really want to fight a war for a country they where told to hate for the last decade or so. but then again globo-homo propaganda is a hell of a drug.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

It is most interested in maintaining its eastern neighbors as satellite states/imperial vassals, if possible. This was the state of affairs under Yanukovych and still is under Lukashenko. It was extremely unpopular in Western Ukraine and is continually growing more and more unpopular in Belarus because many people don't want to live in a corrupt vassal state.
While being a vassal of the West is far more toxic in many respects, at least the EU, unlike the Putinosphere, can claim to offer integration, prosperity and political representation. Those of us living in the west know that these are all false promises, but I can easily see how young people in a neo-Soviet vassal state like Belarus could fall for them.

Lukashenko's an odd bird. He tried to be a clever statesman like Putin, but lacks the tact, self control (and I think the intelligence) to pull it off. He's the Sonny Corleone to Putin's Don Vito Corleone. Every time further integration of the Union State or the Eurasian Economic Union approaches, he pulls an about face and starts (mildly) sabre-rattling about Belarusian independence. He can come across as quite fickle at times and it seems like Putin is growing tired of it.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Apparently Biden briefed congress and the word is we have zero leverage and the plan is to just evacuate Americans.

 

[East_Clintwood]

I wonder if the boomers that run things, expect everyone to be unified like in ww2, despite the US being far less homogenous,

Probably since they're the same dumbass boomers pushing diversity and inclusion shit to the detriment of actual warfighting capability.

Would leftest blacks, ect.. really want to fight a war for a country they where told to hate for the last decade or so. but then again globo-homo propaganda is a hell of a drug.

I suppose we could tell them they can loot all the sneakers they want from any Russian they kill. That'd have them queueing round the block at the enlistment offices.
Of course that's not really as huge an issue as you think. The days of having to mobilize vast reserves to face the pact armoured hordes no longer exist. Without both the land and the numbers provided by their satellite states, and the vulnerability to tank plinking of their older armour (which makes up most of their inventory), we wouldn't especially have to start drafting and shit.

Apparently Biden briefed congress and the word is we have zero leverage and the plan is to just evacuate Americans.

I can't wait to hear how this is Trump's fault

 

[LillWeeb]

Probably since they're the same dumbass boomers pushing diversity and inclusion shit to the detriment of actual warfighting capability.


I suppose we could tell them they can loot all the sneakers they want from any Russian they kill. That'd have them queueing round the block at the enlistment offices.
Of course that's not really as huge an issue as you think. The days of having to mobilize vast reserves to face the pact armoured hordes no longer exist. Without both the land and the numbers provided by their satellite states, and the vulnerability to tank plinking of their older armour (which makes up most of their inventory), we wouldn't especially have to start drafting and shit.


I can't wait to hear how this is Trump's fault

one flaw in that equation will joggers jog, for ghetto Slavic off brand counterfeit Nikes though?

 

[Borscht]

Apparently Biden briefed congress and the word is we have zero leverage and the plan is to just evacuate Americans.

Our sly evil old man called your sleepy confused old man two and a half hours ago, and they are still on the phone. The talk has no set duration and is expected to continue until all matters of importance have been discussed, so keep your fingers crossed for whatever outcome you deem more preferable.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

This is a perfect time to liberate east Ukraine right now. Biden is incapable of reacting to Russia in any meaningful way other than huffing and puffing on the phone, while the rest of NATO is absolutely dickless and does not want to freeze this winter so they'll play along.

As for other former Soviet countries like Belarus, Moldova, and Kazakhstan, they're more than willing to join an alliance with Russia. They know that the alternative of trying to jump up NATO's ass is so much worse, as exemplified by what's happening to Ukraine right now.

I agree regarding Lukashenko, he's was trying that whole Belorussian independence thing when it was politically expedient to fuck around. Now when he'll be forced to pick sides, I'm certain he'll side with Russia over NATO.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

The concept of reclaiming your ancestral homeland is a thing. Russia only has to go back to the Mongol invasion to justify their claim to Ukraine, while Israel had to go all the way back to the glorious reign of Hadrian to do the same with Palestine. Russia can take Ukraine and Belarus without doing anything wrong.

Does territorial claims only make sense under Ivan the Terrible and his descendants or the romanovs otherwise these people's territorial claims
Are stupid f*** Vladimir Putin the neo-soviet douchebag

 

[East_Clintwood]

one flaw in that equation will joggers jog, for ghetto Slavic off brand counterfeit Nikes though?

I mean they're joggers so not exactly difficult to convince. Hell you could probably convince them fighting against the Russkies is some sort of stunning and brave stand against the white hetero-normative patriarchy and the tards would do it for free.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I mean they're joggers so not exactly difficult to convince. Hell you could probably convince them fighting against the Russkies is some sort of stunning and brave stand against the white hetero-normative patriarchy and the tards would do it for free.

Joggers and Arabs make shit fighters. Half of them will desert before their transport plane even touches down in Germany, and the other half will be lost to attrition before they even engage the enemy.

 

[Scale Smerch]

As already mentioned nothing will come of this, it's the usual western neocon-eastern oligarch dick waving that has been a thing since the Soviet breakup. There's enough brain cells left in the think tank circles to know Russia will invade should Ukraine actually join NATO (much like Finland coincidentally) and enough residual prescience on the part of political advisors to know selling a war in Eastern Europe is suicide at the ballot box.

At worst we'll get another breakaway state following the storied tradition of Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Luhansk/Donetsk to help reinforce why you don't stick your dick in crazy.

 

[jje100010001]

I agree regarding Lukashenko, he's was trying that whole Belorussian independence thing when it was politically expedient to fuck around. Now when he'll be forced to pick sides, I'm certain he'll side with Russia over NATO.

I always thought it was one of those staged acts like in the WWF, Luka acts all angry, Russia acts like this is some sort of betrayal, and then they both agree to raise prices on the Eurocucks over the winter.

Never underestimate the establishments willingness for another war, even after the Iraq/Afghanistan shitshows. That's probably even more true for a war with Russia given:
A) its unlikely to devolve into the same insurgency clusterfuck as the others
B) most of the boomers in charge probably spent their early service in, or under people, planning for the potential soviet zergrush, so have unfulfilled fantasies to realise
C) the establishment sees Russia as an eminently winnable fight, especially if it stays a fairly localised conventional fight over Ukraine.

That being said I doubt anything will actually come of this, it's the usual east-west dock waving contest

The US Establishment IMO has no political currency to wage another traditional war, not for another generation on a patch of dirt peripheral to the US's immediate interests. The American public is simply exhausted and has turned inwards to focus on the US's domestic issues.

The most we'll see if anything does occur is Delta Forces quietly going into Ukraine to secure certain zones and prevent a total collapse of Ukraine if anything goes bad. Sort of like what Trump did in Syria during his presidency.

Apparently Biden briefed congress and the word is we have zero leverage and the plan is to just evacuate Americans.

Apparently so:

https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1468287736901681156

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I always thought it was one of those staged acts like in the WWF, Luka acts all angry, Russia acts like this is some sort of betrayal, and then they both agree to raise prices on the Eurocucks over the winter.

Yeah it's mostly theater. Last time it was to distract from the failed color revolution that Lukashenko quashed rather effectively. The leaders of countries like Serbia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan won't dare pass wind without express permission from Putin.

The most we'll see if anything does occur is Delta Forces quietly going into Ukraine to secure certain zones and prevent a total collapse of Ukraine if anything goes bad. Sort of like what Trump did in Syria during his presidency.

I doubt it, any American troops on the ground there (in a combat role as opposed to advisors and such) will be a massive escalation and will be extremely bad for PR, no matter what happens. The last thing Joe needs is footage of more dead American troops from another unnecessary conflict.

Besides, it's too late to prevent a total collapse now, it's been ongoing for the last 5-6 years already.

 

[jje100010001]

I doubt it, any American troops on the ground there will be a massive escalation and will be extremely bad for PR, no matter what happens. The last thing Joe needs is footage of more dead American troops from another unnecessary conflict.

They don't need to be there 'officially'. They can always be there for 'training purposes', or embedded in the various mercenary corps in Ukraine.

Even their deaths will be unannounced.

 

[IKOL]

Dobrovy pozaranky, ludi. Or rather, hey there the local Russian here so let me~

Russaboos and NATOaboos should join hands and welcome the coming tard cum.

No, thank you, I am full of apple juice.

So if the Russian’s capture Null, who gets his stuff?

V dushe ne ebu, znaya moih zemlyakov - vsemy pizdets pridet.

Ahem, consider a loss of higly expensive equipment if that somehow end up in the hands of ruskies. Because 96% of us are gopniks\animals\whatever the fuck else and not sentient enough to respect the hardware.

No Russian ever called me Nazi/racist/white supremacist/terrorist/extremist.

Are you sure there's a reason to call you like that?

Russia doesn't want Ukraine.

Can confirm. Nobody need an autistic incest child in a family.

What's missing from the article is the president of Ukraine saying, recently mind you, the Western powers should invest millions into conquering Russia and separating it into 18 separate countries

Well mr. zelensky can пойти хуйца соснуть. This fucking clown have earned money in my country and have a dare to shit on it for a fame and cash my Motherland have gave him. Cool, cool... Volodya, I know you might read this, so please KYS unironically, заднеприводный хохлошввайн.

Russia might invade Ukraine, but I doubt that NATO or the US would do anything about it.

Why, they might. To send Poland on suicide mission again.