Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Motherfucker's forehead is concave.

How?

(Answer: overly aggressive bone-shaving, but knowing that doesn't do a damn thing to lessen the visceral, uncanny-valley horror.)
 
Chunky_pickle [previous update here] will do anything and endure everything, all for the sake of standing-to-pee. Truly an inspiration!
(Those baby ftms complaining about "bottom growth pain" have a lot to learn! lol)
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She's really dedicated to torturing her clitoris until it magically transforms into a true & honest penis. Testosterone abuse, endless surgeries, and daily regimens of "manual traction exercises" and pumping - these will surely work! Just look at how much progress she's made! :)

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"my Wolverine suspensory ligaments regenerated twice now and are actively pulling my penis inwards"
Her body is desperately fighting back against these unnatural changes, but Chunky_pickle won't let that stop her! Just keep slicing and ripping away - beat it into submission!

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She just got her fourth surgery the other day, no pictures (yet) though. This one was to try and fix her fistula problems (she's the three-stream pee girl, if you remember). She's optimistic about it, but we'll see how it pans out. She also still has two more surgeries to go, assuming nothing goes wrong.
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I swear, so many troons are just painfully stupid. 🤦‍♀️
 
they get so many hints and ignore them all for the coom:
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he doesn’t name his surgeon but he’s in Oklahoma.
Jesus it's like some human experiment prison bullshit. Like this is a fucking account I'd expect to hear from Mengele's victims in a journal, where they know they can't escape.

they already blame "transphobia" for the state of troon medicine. they say that the surgeons are not allowed to experiment with new techniques because of the transphobic society or something like that and that's why everything is so botched (and later they contradict themselves by saying nothing's botched, it's just a part of the journey and all the vaginas are different, so it's ok if you have a rotting one).
Bitch you are the experiment.
 
Chunky_pickle [previous update here] will do anything and endure everything, all for the sake of standing-to-pee. Truly an inspiration!
(Those baby ftms complaining about "bottom growth pain" have a lot to learn! lol)
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She's really dedicated to torturing her clitoris until it magically transforms into a true & honest penis. Testosterone abuse, endless surgeries, and daily regimens of "manual traction exercises" and pumping - these will surely work! Just look at how much progress she's made! :)

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"my Wolverine suspensory ligaments regenerated twice now and are actively pulling my penis inwards"
Her body is desperately fighting back against these unnatural changes, but Chunky_pickle won't let that stop her! Just keep slicing and ripping away - beat it into submission!

She just got her fourth surgery the other day, no pictures (yet) though. This one was to try and fix her fistula problems (she's the three-stream pee girl, if you remember). She's optimistic about it, but we'll see how it pans out. She also still has two more surgeries to go, assuming nothing goes wrong.
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I swear, so many troons are just painfully stupid. 🤦‍♀️
I won't ever understand their obsession with size on a surgery where the outcome is limited to whatever anatomical changes the patient gets from HRT.

You're just not going to get anything too dissimilar from what was there initially. That's literally the point of this particular surgical technique.

Whoever sold those people the idea of a 180 genital transformation was just running a scam. The final outcome is supposed to be a slight more streamlined version of the original genitalia.

Rather than fight back against the natural healing of the body and risk screwing up with the perineum region, those people should just focus into retaining a functional urethra.
 
they already blame "transphobia" for the state of troon medicine.
and yet they will not even help each other. Here he is today saying he’s not “naming names just yet”
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But oh wait, troons never stop powerleveling and he already said he’s a customer of thread regular Dr. Curtis Crane in Texas
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later they contradict themselves by saying nothing's botched, it's just a part of the journey and all the vaginas are different, so it's ok if you have a rotting one
I’ll keep an eye on how much he discusses his “swelling” going down. Now that we know it’s Crane we can take a guess after the quality level of his surgery.

Horrifying additional find from his profile- he’s an MTF “mom” who knocked up his FTM “husband”. And chose to get his surgery with a new infant. And breastfed that infant. This poor child.. only text under the spoiler but, fuck I need a drink
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managed to make it a competition with his sister #notafetish :
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Just goes to show you that a profile doesn’t need Buffalo-Bill selfies to make your stomach turn.
 
and yet they will not even help each other. Here he is today saying he’s not “naming names just yet”
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But oh wait, troons never stop powerleveling and he already said he’s a customer of thread regular Dr. Curtis Crane in Texas
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I’ll keep an eye on how much he discusses his “swelling” going down. Now that we know it’s Crane we can take a guess after the quality level of his surgery.

Horrifying additional find from his profile- he’s an MTF “mom” who knocked up his FTM “husband”. And chose to get his surgery with a new infant. And breastfed that infant. This poor child.. only text under the spoiler but, fuck I need a drink
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managed to make it a competition with his sister #notafetish :
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Just goes to show you that a profile doesn’t need Buffalo-Bill selfies to make your stomach turn.
The difference between his “breast milk” and his sister’s is that his sister’s is suitable for feeding a newborn baby, and isn’t a chemical-laden poisonous soup.

I’m MATI that doctors will give troons hormones in an attempt to make them produce milk so they can try to feed a baby. The newborn in this case is merely part of a human experiment, as well as a prop in the troon’s fetish. Experimenting on newborn babies in this way is sick. Who’s looking out for the welfare of the infant here? Or do newborns, like women, just have to stfu and get used by men in their dick-waving attempts to satisfy their sexual perversions?

There’s a reason why breastfeeding mothers have to be incredibly careful about what they eat or drink, as well as any medications they take, and that’s because these things wind up in their breast milk. Poor diet = poor breast milk flow and poor nutrient levels in whatever breast milk is made. Women routinely refuse medications when breastfeeding, because medications are secreted into the milk their breasts make and medications aren’t healthy for newborns to ingest. So why are doctors happily filling men with medications then encouraging them to shove the hormone-laden slop into a newborn baby’s mouth? Do they expect a man’s body to be able to provide a perfect nutritional balance for a baby, in synthetically produced “breast milk”? Isn’t anyone giving a fuck about the child’s nutritional needs and safety from adult medications here?

Stack them top hats up. I’ll happily wear the lot.
 
I seesaw back and forth on how I feel about this thread. I think one of the biggest problems is that these posters are terminally online weirdos who have completely let anime and porn delude them into thinking the most perfect manmade genitals are easily achieved by any back alley doctor with a scalpel and some laughing gas.

on the one hand it's clear that many of the featured people here are extremely mentally ill and being taken advantage of by snake oil sellers and butcher doctors. On the other hand, buyer beware and if you don't do good enough research on realistic outcomes its your own fault. The fact that many of these people are searching for the cheapest surgeon that will see them as fast as possible makes me feel sick. Sure, they hate their current body and want it "fixed" but it's like getting the most important body modification of your life. You should take some time to make sure you're not gonna get fucked up. It's like getting a full back tattoo from a meth head and then being heartbroken that it's infected and the spelling is wrong. If you've been dreaming about your future vagina, why can't you save money to get the most designer vag ever? Nothing good quality is cheap

I know some transgender people IRL and they're overwhelmingly shy, quiet, a little odd and autistic, but all of them don't draw much attention. Half of them don't use any social media. For these people, I imagine their surgical choices will be agonised and thought about for years, carefully selecting what to get done because they don't want to make the wrong choice and end up with a botched mess. But whether it goes perfectly for them or it all goes wrong, they'll just deal with it on their own and not go chasing the endless high of more and more plastic surgery to chase something unrealistic like the poor fucks on this thread

I do wonder what the % ratio is like between the more normal trans people Vs the loud twitter soldiers
 
The difference between his “breast milk” and his sister’s is that his sister’s is suitable for feeding a newborn baby, and isn’t a chemical-laden poisonous soup.

I’m MATI that doctors will give troons hormones in an attempt to make them produce milk so they can try to feed a baby. The newborn in this case is merely part of a human experiment, as well as a prop in the troon’s fetish. Experimenting on newborn babies in this way is sick. Who’s looking out for the welfare of the infant here? Or do newborns, like women, just have to stfu and get used by men in their dick-waving attempts to satisfy their sexual perversions?

There’s a reason why breastfeeding mothers have to be incredibly careful about what they eat or drink, as well as any medications they take, and that’s because these things wind up in their breast milk. Poor diet = poor breast milk flow and poor nutrient levels in whatever breast milk is made. Women routinely refuse medications when breastfeeding, because medications are secreted into the milk their breasts make and medications aren’t healthy for newborns to ingest. So why are doctors happily filling men with medications then encouraging them to shove the hormone-laden slop into a newborn baby’s mouth? Do they expect a man’s body to be able to provide a perfect nutritional balance for a baby, in synthetically produced “breast milk”? Isn’t anyone giving a fuck about the child’s nutritional needs and safety from adult medications here?

Stack them top hats up. I’ll happily wear the lot.
Males attempting to "breast feed" infants is pedophilia, prove me wrong.
 
Do we have any info on how much feeling FTMs have in their armflesh dicks btw? (Assuming it doesn't die/rot off)

Just recently I caught myself thinking about how this would work. The brain kind of has a blueprint of which organs and limbs you're supposed to have, right? To the point that if you lose one, the brain may still think it's there and send you sensation there anyway. But a female brain has no blueprint for a penis. I wonder how the brain handles suddenly having a flesh tube somewhere that isn't supposed to be there. I find it hard to believe they would have any sort of normal sensation in there at all. Wouldn't it just feel like a foreign object - like when your arm falls asleep?
 
On the other hand, buyer beware and if you don't do good enough research on realistic outcomes its your own fault. The fact that many of these people are searching for the cheapest surgeon that will see them as fast as possible makes me feel sick.
I have to counter that I am not seeing people on transgender_surgeries looking for cheap and fast. To their credit, many of them are looking for “the best”, when you see frequently asked questions they are about “the best” surgeon and never the fastest. They all shit on Rumer at this point. They have an in-culture with the top tier and bottom tier. Many are taking shitty jobs at Starbucks and Amazon to unlock insurance coverage for the top tier. They snipe at each other’s shitty results and think “I would never”.

A great example we were just discussing is Deschamps-Braly. He is god tier on that subreddit and everyone will coo over results and talk about how they’re also on his waiting list. They have done the research and are willing to spend $$$ to get his bone-shaving surgery. All of this, and this surgeon still mutilated an FTM with botched facial surgery, discussed on the very same sub, but it’s a real girl so they don’t give a fuck, they just want the “best”.

There’s a point where meticulous research doesn’t mean shit. You’re already chasing the impossible. Jazz Jennings was too young to be a coombrained terminally-online fetishist, but his fantasy of the “vagina fairy” and his mother’s grooming blinded him too much to stop and really say “hey wait a minute, it’s fundamentally impossible to get what I want” and Jeanette did very little to mother him and manage his expectations. He consulted with multiple well-known surgeons and they couldn’t talk him into any measures that might make his outcomes more favorable, because he was too focused on this magical, fantastical end result.
 
Do we have any info on how much feeling FTMs have in their armflesh dicks btw? (Assuming it doesn't die/rot off)

Just recently I caught myself thinking about how this would work. The brain kind of has a blueprint of which organs and limbs you're supposed to have, right? To the point that if you lose one, the brain may still think it's there and send you sensation there anyway. But a female brain has no blueprint for a penis. I wonder how the brain handles suddenly having a flesh tube somewhere that isn't supposed to be there. I find it hard to believe they would have any sort of normal sensation in there at all. Wouldn't it just feel like a foreign object - like when your arm falls asleep?
I assume it still feels like your arm, just relocated. So far the most we've gotten is "awkwardly freezing cold".
 
Like, their features have been made more (relatively) androgynous, but instead of imparting femininity, it takes them back to the closest thing to being “girlish” they’ve ever been: prepubescent boys. Sad, frightened boys trapped in the bodies of large adult men.

Ugh. That was a gross, chewy thing to write.

Forgive me for going a fair bit off topic, but that sentence reminded me of a youth fiction I read back in the day, called Shade's Children by Garth Nix (author of the Sabriel series, fairly popular for teens I guess). There's a character in it called Drum, who - pasted from wikipedia - "Drum is an embodiment of physical strength and is described as having to use special clothing on account of his size (he is much bulkier than the average teenager), but has been emasculated by steroids given to him by the Overlords since he was to become a Myrmidon. Unfortunately for him, the steroids stopped him from going through puberty."

There's a whole extract in the book where they're getting changed and the main character sees Drum's naked body, and it's a complete shocker of a reveal that this great big John Cena looking bloke has teeny tiny children's genitals. Enough that I can still remember reading it, and it came out in 1997. It's one of the biggest horror reveals in the story, and a fair bit of time is taken to devote to explaining what a cruelty was done to this kid.

But release that book now and it'd probably be considered evil transphobic propaganda. Nuts.
 
DotResponsible9245 (aka "Tentacle Dick") has kindly shared her surgery expenses here.
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$630,000 billed by the hospital, insurance negotiated it down and paid $330,000, DotResponsible9245 still paid $16,000 out of pocket. Very lucrative for these butchers!
And notice that ol' Tentacle Dick isn't even finished yet! She still has to get urethral lengthening (very prone to complications), glansplasty, and testicular implants! 💸💸💸

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She could have easily died from this, but I guess it's no big deal! Totally worth it. :)
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Do we have any info on how much feeling FTMs have in their armflesh dicks btw? (Assuming it doesn't die/rot off)

Phalloplasty includes nerve hookup, which allows the phallodick to have basic tactile sensation (touch/pain/temperature/etc). Exactly like the arm/thigh/whatever flesh that it used to be.
As @keyboredsm4shthe2nd mentioned though, FTMs often complain about their phallodicks being cold (and so probably less sensitive than expected), likely because of blood circulation issues. The penises of real men shrink when cold for better temperature regulation, but FTMs are just out of luck here. Now that I think about it, this is probably a major reason why phallodicks sometimes rot off - there's just not enough bloodflow to keep them alive. Especially when some of these idiots ask for an 8-inch monster "dick" with the girth of a coke can.

Some FTMs (and apparently even surgeons!) try to claim that phallodicks can have erogenous sensation, but this is a LIE. Any erogenous sensation they're feeling while "using" their phallodick is coming from the indirect stimulation of their clitoris - which is either buried at the base of the phallodick or is located right below. It's infuriating how often troons lie, both to themselves and others. How is anyone supposed to have "informed consent" to get butchered if so much of the information out there is false or misleading? *sigh*
 
I won't ever understand their obsession with size on a surgery where the outcome is limited to whatever anatomical changes the patient gets from HRT.

You're just not going to get anything too dissimilar from what was there initially. That's literally the point of this particular surgical technique.

Whoever sold those people the idea of a 180 genital transformation was just running a scam. The final outcome is supposed to be a slight more streamlined version of the original genitalia.

Rather than fight back against the natural healing of the body and risk screwing up with the perineum region, those people should just focus into retaining a functional urethra.
So being as this is on the route to trying to be able to " STP"...
am i right in assuming that.. it means their surgery was to have thier urethra rerouted through thier clit?
fugggggeugh, what a mess.

Also, (and this is totally anecdotal, with a few outliers too, just on my own observations) BUT it does seem like there is a higher incidence in the fatter troons, of complications.
being as nearly all of them are at least a bit fat, it doesn't seem like it takes too much to set you over into danger territory.

I know fatness is a surgery risk generally, but i dont know to what extent (being as i've never had any or know much about it.)

But just on a physiological standpoint.I would think with this kind of surgery- the positioning, pressure areas, and the fact that the tissue it uses is fatty tissue and prone to metabolic effect- would be worse than some other surgeries.
Which again, is another check no the -doing everything other than working on yourself first- backwards way of doing things that troons go in for, and the surgeons waves them on through, no matter the deleterious effects.
 
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So being as this is on the route to trying to be able to " s t p"...
am i right in assuming that.. it means their surgery was to have thier urethra rerouted through thier clit?
fugggggeugh, what a mess.
The process behind the surgery is actually surprisingly interesting to read...
First, a description of clitoral anatomy:
"The clitoris consists of two curved corpora cavernosa, a small glans with a dorsal a neurovascular bundle, and clitoral skin. Ventrally, the smooth and hairless mucosal plate joins the tip of the glans and native urethral opening making a “urethral plate”. This plate additionally deforms the clitoral body making a ventral curvature...the enlarged clitoris is shortened and curved due to attachments of the corpora cavernosa with all the surrounding structures including the suspensory and fundiform ligaments, short urethral plate, and labia minora."
Metoidioplasty involves cutting ligaments and dissecting the urethral plate so as to straighten the clitoris which gives it a lengthier look. Which ligaments get cut and how the urethra gets rerouted (which type of skin grafts are used if any), for example depends on the surgeon's preferred technique.

The outcome of the surgery is limited to the structure of preexisting anatomy and the success of urethroplasty depends on how developed the urethral plate was prior to the surgery.

A good outcome for the surgery (and by good outcome I mean, less complications, functional urethra and maybe the possibility of standing up to pee) depends entirely of "anatomical cooperativeness".
I know fatness is a surgery risk, but i dont know to what extent being as i've never had any or know much about it. I would think with this kind of surgery- the positioning, pressure areas, and the fact that the tissue it uses is fatty tissue and prone to metabolic effect- would be worse than some other surgeries...
Obesity absolutely affects the outcome of the surgery. Troons sure hate bringing this up but any paper on the topic of SRS will bring up obesity as a risk factor. Here's what an overview of SRS techniques has to say about that:
"Obesity with specific adipose distribution to the pannus or mons pubis and thighs may also prevent safe surgery and at the minimum, negatively impact overall aesthetics and function. A suggested body mass index (BMI) cutoff is 35 kg/m2 for patients desiring radial forearm free flap (RFFF) phalloplasty; ideal body weight is suggested for patients interested in metoidioplasty and anterolateral thigh (ALT) phalloplasty."
Also this
"The ideal candidate for metoidioplasty is a thin, healthy patient with minimal surrounding genital tissue and pronounced clitoral enlargement from hormone therapy"
 
I have to say that pierced neovag is one of the better ones I've seen. And by better, I mean it's one of the less repulsive abominations I've seen on this site.

But except for the most coom brained idiots, no one would ever register this as a real vagina. Hell, your appearance alone probably tipped the person off. The guys that don't care are just wanting to get off and literally view vaginas as fuck holes. We wouldn't have $10,000 sex dolls if some men didn't feel this way.

NatGeo did this show called "Taboo", and one of the episodes featured a man who spent a huge amount of money on his sex doll, admitted to never having sex or a relationship with a natural woman, and took the doll with him when he went out so they could have dates.

It's an interesting parallel how all the robots/androids being made right now are always female. Especially when sci-fi/anime has displayed that we create these solely for fucking/being in a relationship with.
 
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She could have easily died from this, but I guess it's no big deal! Totally worth it. :)
Post-op unilateral leg swelling -- in a woman no less -- and not suspecting DVT. No Chest XR done despite patient complained of breathing problems. This shit is sheer medical malpractice; every doctor who handled her case should be sued to hell and back.
 
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