General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Khalove]

The tranny animal abuser also unironically uses a voice changer for its streams that changes a lot:

Twitch

Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers.

www.twitch.tv

It's funny how much the intonation changes and how much it has to whisper to not make anything more obvious.

How many women this thing has pretended to be:

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It would deserve its own thread if enough people know about its acts. In general, its aliases were Chara/Piety/Cvnka/root/Mne. Hopefully someone with more info will come around.

 

[Cubanodun]

Houshou Player is still there, so Cover is not following this trend... yet.

Cover has some guidelines about it that it not so different than what other corpos do that is mostly "dont fuck with us we dont fuck with you" still the solution could have been more in plan "ok lets put Anicolor as a verified seller so people dont get confused" but no they have to go nuclear

My guess is that people imagined something way better with the talent "freed from the corpo chains" and it's just didn't deliver on those expectations. It most likely couldn't.

In my perspective is that i was expecting her doing more things but her content is not any different of what she did on Hololive, if she is going to do exactly the same stuff then what was the point of her graduation? because im pretty sure it was not about the money

 

[kadmckool]

hot new nijisanji rrat

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In a bit of weird news, Anykara is requesting the removal of Nijisanji hentai in DL-site. This is in spite of their new collab with them to release official Nijisanji ASMR

https://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ361685.html

EDIT: Okay, so the rrat here is that Nijisanji is requesting the removal of the third party products from DLsite so that people won't be confused with unofficial Niji products with the official ones when looking through the store

The virgin Niji afraid of Official doujin does not sell well means that it probably had garbage potential before hitting the shelves.

The chad holo girls want more doujin about themselves to the point that Marine got paywall block out of her own lewd (the most meta thing ever).

Honestly Holo probably do a better job if they leave those doujin alone. The more doujins out the more they stay in the back of artists and fandom mind. Imagine some artist as hardcore Niji fan can’t make doujin because it need to be official vs Chloe and Laplus who get their R18 doujin a week after they debut. Out of the 2 scenario, even hardcore Niji artists would start drawing Holo over Niji and that’s just make Holo official doujin get more spotlight. Not but not least, some Holo artists like Gaou (Aqua’s papa artist) who draw R18 begins to bleed their own arts over their Holo. In Gaou case, official Aqua arts from him start to look like his main R18 doujin girl (Aqua went from small chest to hourglass short stack girl like his main doujin girl.)

 

[masterstocking]

Bonus points: cute
Minus points: no Dr. Oopsie

 

[grenskul]

The niji shill is mad that people shit on niji when it shits on people that helped it grow a shit ton.
If only there was a way to sell something without fucking with the already established doujin artists. Hell maybe even having their own store....ho wait.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

hot new nijisanji rrat

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They really expect people to just stop making porn.

other companies tried this shit before, and it just made people make more porn. Anycolors going down the retard route. And yknow what happens on the retard route.



Expect more exceptional behavior to come

 

[kukkia]

Anyway, that's all. I caught wind of the absolutely bonkers Yumenographia/Yakuza ties discussion the other day and quickly realised that good faith discussion about Anycolor/Niji is less favourable than simply parroting 4ch rrats to compensate for lack of understanding on the subject matter.

It's pretty wild to me that people here act as if Hololive is constantly under threat from antis across the world trying to make stuff up and tear them down, and then instantly believe and embrace every single rrat about Nijisanji before internalizing it as the truth. I guess one shouldn't question the logic of tribalists and fanboys.

 

[murdered meat bag]

anyone know if YuniLuna is streaming today? i think she said as much wednesday but who knows for sure. 3PM EST right?

 

[INeedHelp]

It's pretty wild to me that people here act as if Hololive is constantly under threat from antis across the world trying to make stuff up and tear them down, and then instantly believe and embrace every single rrat about Nijisanji before internalizing it as the truth. I guess one shouldn't question the logic of tribalists and fanboys.

This is where the funny part about Nijifags comes to light to be honest.
Holo rrats? Bring them, they're funny, on a weekly basis and its pretty easy to do. I still remember some people here were advocating to fire a manager who had some casual banter with Gura because of game permissions.
But no, if its Niji, everything is wrong and must be properly investigated and so on.
Every company and indie will get shit on for bad or awkward decisions, regardless of tribalist posts and what not. It just so happens its Niji's turn this week. And just as any discussion regarding this sort of drama, if Niji didn't fuck up as the Niji experts are saying, then the discussion will die on its own.
Calm down, your company will not go under fire because of a couple of posts on KF of all places.

 

[kukkia]

This is where the funny part about Nijifags comes to light to be honest.
Holo rrats? Bring them, they're funny, on a weekly basis and its pretty easy to do. I still remember some people here were advocating to fire a manager who had some casual banter with Gura because of game permissions.
But no, if its Niji, everything is wrong and must be properly investigated and so on.
Every company and indie will get shit on for bad or awkward decisions, regardless of tribalist posts and what not. It just so happens its Niji's turn this week. And just as any discussion regarding this sort of drama, if Niji didn't fuck up as the Niji experts are saying, then the discussion will die on its own.
Calm down, your company will not go under fire because of a couple of posts on KF of all places.

Well yeah, like I said, "I guess one shouldn't question the logic of tribalists and fanboys." I'm not really sure what your point is here. If you think I'm a Nijifag you can easily scroll through my history and see that my most recent comment before this stuff was me defending Mori Calliope, who last time I checked, is not a member of Nijisanji.

 

[thhrang]

anyone know if YuniLuna is streaming today? i think she said as much wednesday but who knows for sure. 3PM EST right?

Just started.

 

[LunaKage]

I feel like you guys are getting a little too worked up about niji rrat posting. As someone who lurks both this thread and /vt/ I can tell you that both companies get shit on pretty hard-core. With constant doom posting about Kiara and Calli, shitting on Ayame for not streaming, and the sea of rrats involving Ollie, and holopro management in general.

I feel like if you think that the other corpos get unfairly targeted, you're just not paying attention. Obviously there are exceptional people here that take any opportunity to shit on xyz company of choice, but if you're so upset about it that it drives you away from the thread, then you might need to take your meds and touch some grass.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Just started.

Danke

 

[Fujishiro Nageki]

then you might need to take your meds and touch some grass

This is good advice for this thread in general, even without the preceding message.

 

[Jep21]

I don't think associating with anitubers was a bad idea for Mori. Trash Taste is a popular program - their videos get more views than those of any vtuber - and they reach an audience that has a lot of people who are receptive of vtubers (weebs) but who aren't all preexisting vtuber fans. There are tons of casual fans who pretty much just watch whatever Crunchyroll or Netflix is shilling each season, and anitubers are really popular with them. Most of those people have yet to really get into vtubers. Mori collabing with them makes sense imo, and the same goes for other vtubers.

The only negative things to come out of Mori's collabs with them is that she ends up being associated with them, and they do tend to say dumb things about vtubers. That being said, the drama regarding that stuff is massively blown out of proportion. The clip of Connor saying that being in Hololive instantly gets you tons of fans for example attracted basically no attention until it was dug up by /vt/ ages after the stream happened, and the drama was mostly restricted to 4chan, here, and some people on Reddit. The vast majority of fans don't care nearly as much about gossip as we do lol.

That being said, it's certainly true that being a fan of a vtuber doesn't mean that you have to like everything they do.

Yeah i know why Cover hasn't told them to fuck off months ago.
And speaking of drama, i think most people are waiting for when one of them fucks up so bad that it doesn't just contain discussion here or in /vt/ and question if Mori will be dragged into the drama.

 

[Nolan Crush]

 

[Gravedigger]

Twitch is better for discoverability. You can just go on there and find someone streaming a particular game or even use the 'vtuber' tag to find someone new. YouTube sucks in this aspect. This means Cover would not benifit from moving to Twitch since their talents are always promoted through the other talents and rarely have random viewers walking into their stream.

Hard disagree. The power of YT lies in its recommendation algorithm. Do you know how people complain that they watch one video of <random topic they don't usually watch> and suddenly they get flooded with videos around that topic? It's a curse, but also a blessing. If the Youtube algorithm likes a certain video on a Vtuber's channel, any user that watches something related gets recommended that video. Which results on quite a lot of opportunities for that vtuber to be discovered.

On the other hand Twitch has shit for discoverability. There is basically no way to get randomly noticed, none what so ever.

On your specific usecase: You search for a new Vtuber to discover and use the site's search features, good on you, maybe even scroll down twitches result page to click on a smaller stream. I agree that Youtube's search is shit, and Twitch can be decent, but that is far from what usually occurs.

People hit "browse", click on a game they want to watch and then click on one of the streams on top. The first 2 rows. Without scrolling down. In 90% of the time.
If you are one of the guys dozens of rows down below with <10 views, there is no way you get discovered, no way to even show how you are worth checking out.

 

[Azchan]

Hard disagree. The power of YT lies in its recommendation algorithm. Do you know how people complain that they watch one video of <random topic they don't usually watch> and suddenly they get flooded with videos around that topic? It's a curse, but also a blessing. If the Youtube algorithm likes a certain video on a Vtuber's channel, any user that watches something related gets recommended that video. Which results on quite a lot of opportunities for that vtuber to be discovered.

On the other hand Twitch has shit for discoverability. There is basically no way to get randomly noticed, none what so ever.

On your specific usecase: You search for a new Vtuber to discover and use the site's search features, good on you, maybe even scroll down twitches result page to click on a smaller stream. I agree that Youtube's search is shit, and Twitch can be decent, but that is far from what usually occurs.

People hit "browse", click on a game they want to watch and then click on one of the streams on top. The first 2 rows. Without scrolling down. In 90% of the time.
If you are one of the guys dozens of rows down below with <10 views, there is no way you get discovered, no way to even show how you are worth checking out.

For most games the viewership is something like. 1st row 3k-1k viewers. 2nd row 1k-200 viewers. 3rd row 200-10 viewers. Anything past the 3rd row has less than 10 viewers. And yes, I hardly ever have checked any streamer past the 3rd line. The only time I view random streamers with sub 200 views is when they get raided (which is something youtube should add).

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EN Curse hitting Kiara hard. Guessing her internet just went out.
Edit: Nvm PC died.


Jesus give the fucking bird a break. I really feel sorry for her she must be stressing the fuck out.

 

[Beeg Snake]

Kiara continuing the trend of having really good luck whenever she needs it. Her PC decided to die while doing her outfit reveal. Tweet here.
Edit: Another image for the collection

Edit 2: And we're back, for how long? Who knows at this point

Edit 3: For fuck sake it went offline again. Poor Tenchou.
Edit 4: I am feeling really fucking bad for Kiara, you can tell it's getting to her.

Edit 5: The gif doesn't do a good job showing it but the memberships and superchats are popping off. Disaster turned into a miracle.

Final Edit: It's over, I am sorry KFP employees

 

[Porean]

Kiara continuing the trend of having really good luck whenever she needs it. Her PC decided to die while doing her outfit reveal. Tweet here.View attachment 2789736

God is a Kiara Anti.