Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[giraffes on coffee]

Just curious, but how do we know Jeff Johnson is still friendly with Vic?

He talks about Jeff all the time. He comes over to his house and they build things together. They are like best friends and have been for maybe 20 years.

 

[TheClappening]

Wrong, Israel. The context of the gif is Vic mocking the very idea that he violently grabbed Jamie by the hair.
Sam Johnson, J. Sean Lemoine, & LawTwitter have taken that gif out of context and spread it around while sperging "SEE!! SEE!! VIC ADMITS PULLING JAMIE'S HAIR!!! GUILTY OF SUPER RAPE!!!!"
If you actually watched the deposition videos, you would know that Vic stated that he held Jamie's hair near the end of strands in a gentle manner instead of grabbing a fist full of hair at the base of the skull like Jamie claims. But you lot care about hot takes on Twitter than the truth and are willing to spread misinformation because "Vic Man Bad."

There's also the fact that Marchi alleged Vic dug his fingers into her scalp, grabbed a fistful of her hair, and wrenched her head back.

This version of the encounter was denied by Vic.

But who are we kidding. Isreal would never come here to talk. A fragile mental case who's afraid of Mega Man would never come here.

 

[saiyajin]

There's also the fact that Marchi alleged Vic dug his fingers into her scalp, grabbed a fistful of her hair, and wrenched her head back.

This version of the encounter was denied by Vic.

But who are we kidding. Isreal would never come here to talk. A fragile mental case who's afraid of Mega Man would never come here.

my DM's are open.

Wrong, Israel. The context of the gif is Vic mocking the very idea that he violently grabbed Jamie by the hair.
Sam Johnson, J. Sean Lemoine, & LawTwitter have taken that gif out of context and spread it around while sperging "SEE!! SEE!! VIC ADMITS PULLING JAMIE'S HAIR!!! GUILTY OF SUPER RAPE!!!!"
If you actually watched the deposition videos, you would know that Vic stated that he held Jamie's hair near the end of strands in a gentle manner instead of grabbing a fist full of hair at the base of the skull like Jamie claims. But you lot care about hot takes on Twitter than the truth and are willing to spread misinformation because "Vic Man Bad."

https://twitter.com/SaiyaJinIsHere/status/1470143498057830404?s=20

maybe someone can help me understand when and where Vic mocked the idea that he grabbed hair? he was seriously giving his side of the story, could you point out the timestamp in the deposition where he was mocking the idea that he grabbed hair? seems more clearly that he's re-enacting the hair grabbing while maintaining it was a friendly and platonic interaction that he's surprised is being used against him because of a later friendly interaction with Marchi before the allegations were posted.

 

[Volmsaiyan]

In my opinion, Rolon re-posting a stream by Nick Rekieta is more damaging to his career than simply supporting Rittenhouse. I mean I don’t think a company is going to want to work with someone who supports an individual who helped file a lawsuit against them.

But it's perfectly fine for the other VAs to retweet Marzgurl,T-Greg,BT & others,insult/block fans & constantly spout politics? You do realize how utterly hypocritical that is right?

 

[PorkeyDuck]

Wrong, Israel. The context of the gif is Vic mocking the very idea that he violently grabbed Jamie by the hair.
Sam Johnson, J. Sean Lemoine, & LawTwitter have taken that gif out of context and spread it around while sperging "SEE!! SEE!! VIC ADMITS PULLING JAMIE'S HAIR!!! GUILTY OF SUPER RAPE!!!!"
If you actually watched the deposition videos, you would know that Vic stated that he held Jamie's hair near the end of strands in a gentle manner instead of grabbing a fist full of hair at the base of the skull like Jamie claims. But you lot care about hot takes on Twitter than the truth and are willing to spread misinformation because "Vic Man Bad."

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[saiyajin]

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Fuck off, Isreal.

"Don't chimp out over people disagreeing with the majority" is one of the rules, no?

anyways, this video clip is Vic's re-enactment of the hair grabbing while maintaining the platonic nature of that interaction. someone else above said he was mocking the idea that he was grabbing hair. could you point out the timestamp where he's mocking that idea? it just seems like he's recalling his experience of that incident, not sure why he would be mocking anyone during a deposition in the first place unless he's trying to convey what another person's reaction was towards him

 

[General Gunther]

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I feel like he almost understands it yet doesn't want to admit that people like Ron Toye are just lying.

 

[saiyajin]

I feel like he almost understands it yet doesn't want to admit that people like Ron Toye are just lying.

Ron Toye's honesty isn't what's in question though, Vic's statements and re-enactment of the hair incident are. Ron Toye wasn't even there for any of those incidents, so of course he's just siding with his wife. We could talk about how he's a wife-beater or whatever, but that has nothing to do with Vic's own testimony is the deposition. I feel like you almost understand that but don't want to admit it.

 

[TheClappening]

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Tell me you're butthurt without telling me you're butthurt.

Imagine arguing about the farms instead of simply coming here. But like I said, probably too mentally fragile.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

"Don't chimp out over people disagreeing with the majority" is one of the rules, no?

anyways, this video clip is Vic's re-enactment of the hair grabbing while maintaining the platonic nature of that interaction. someone else above said he was mocking the idea that he was grabbing hair.

Not that one.
There's a gif that circulating of Vic making motions with his hands that look like he is pulling something down.
It's that one Johnson, Lemoine, & LawTwitter keep circulating.

 

[saiyajin]

Tell me you're butthurt without telling me you're butthurt.

Imagine arguing about the farms instead of simply coming here. But like I said, probably too mentally fragile.

>If you need to tell people you're better than someone, you're probably not.
>Only post to further the conversation
>Don't chimp out over people disagreeing with the majority

isn't it hypocritical to point out that I'm arguing about the farms instead of simply coming here and yet you're opining on my tweets here at the farms instead of to me directly on twitter? like if it's not me you're directly replying to here at the farms, are you just commenting for the sake of entertaining people here or for some validation?

Not that one.
There's a gif that circulating of Vic making motions with his hands that look like he is pulling something down.
It's that one Johnson, Lemoine, & LawTwitter keep circulating.

this is the only GIF of Vic that I've personally seen that anyone has used against him, and it's the same one that a lot of people here are claiming is taken out of context https://tenor.com/view/vic-vic-mignogna-mignogna-gif-18653766?_r=g

could you post the other GIF?

 

[TheClappening]

All I see are the same tired arguments of VIc AdMiTtED tO eVeryThiNG that have been repeated since 2019. They've been discussed, debated, debunked, and discarded ad nauseam.

Also, we managed to induce behavior out of someone (to come and register on the Farms) by disagreeing and mocking them. top kek.

 

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So he's "mentally ill" on top of being retarded and incapable of basic reading. With it even in front of him, he has no idea. Deaf, blind and stupid.

Ron Toye's honesty isn't what's in question though, Vic's statements and re-enactment of the hair incident are. Ron Toye wasn't even there for any of those incidents, so of course he's just siding with his wife. We could talk about how he's a wife-beater or whatever, but that has nothing to do with Vic's own testimony is the deposition. I feel like you almost understand that but don't want to admit it.

First mistake, ron isn't married to monica and will probably never be. Everyone using the out of context gif, including ron, as the definitive proof of something never said or done is a question of honesty so of course their honesty comes into question. If you could hear and read, the very obvious would be, well, obvious. You seem to think you understand anything, but it's obvious you're very confused. So what part of Vic's deposition where he never says he "grabbed her by the roots of her hair, pulled back, and whisper something sexual" but instead playfully touched it is hard?

 

[General Gunther]

All I see are the same tired arguments of VIc AdMiTtED tO eVeryThiNG that have been repeated since 2019. They've been discussed, debated, debunked, and discarded ad nauseam.

Also, we managed to induce behavior out of someone (to come and register on the Farms) by disagreeing and mocking them. top kek.

Not gonna lie, I honestly did not see someone like that signing up for the farms coming. It’s pretty rare from what I can tell.

 

[Volmsaiyan]

Didn't the hair compliment happen years ago? She didn't file a complaint at funimation, she didn't say anything to vic,in fact she continued to be chummy with Vic. If Vic was gonna lie about it,why wouldnt he deny the incident outright? He clearly says he never whispered sexual comments to her or jerked her head to his face. But hey by all means continue taking things out of context & misleading people. It's pretty enjoyable watching simps retreat back to the same Gif as evidence after 3 years not being able to find anything more substantial

 

[TheClappening]

Not gonna lie, I honestly did not see someone like that signing up for the farms coming. It’s pretty rare from what I can tell.

We don't know. There have been anti-Vic people over the years coming to the Farms, but as far as I can tell they smartly don't identify themselves and use a different name than their social media. Everyone should practice opsec. Its just funny when they don't.

Honestly, the last anti-Vic person to sign up on the farms and link their twitter to their Farms name would be Ron.

 

[Kaiser14]

Jeff is one of those voice actors who's been doing work at Funimation since the early 2000s and yet has gotten very few notable roles outside of his character in Overlord. He mostly does additional voices in most titles.

There are others VAs I can think of such as Duncan Brannan who's been working at Funimation since the early days but because they're not in the clique they're not getting much work outside of additional voices. It's rare when they get something like a supporting role.

A VA not getting as many roles isn’t automatically proof that they were driven out due to religious/political differences. There are countless other reasons a VA may have not get as many roles (schedule conflicts, familial commitments, health issues, desire to focus on other fields of work, moved away, etc.).

He talks about Jeff all the time. He comes over to his house and they build things together. They are like best friends and have been for maybe 20 years.

When has Vic talked about Jeff?

But it's perfectly fine for the other VAs to retweet Marzgurl,T-Greg,BT & others,insult/block fans & constantly spout politics? You do realize how utterly hypocritical that is right?

The people mentioned didn’t help file a lawsuit against Funimation. As a result, they probably don’t view them with hostility. Basically what I’m saying is that Funimation probably would have more issue with Rolon’s source (Rekieta) than with his opinions. I’m not saying Rolon doesn’t have the right to express his views.

 

[saiyajin]

All I see are the same tired arguments of VIc AdMiTtED tO eVeryThiNG that have been repeated since 2019. They've been discussed, debated, debunked, and discarded ad nauseam.

Also, we managed to induce behavior out of someone (to come and register on the Farms) by disagreeing and mocking them. top kek.

you can clearly see that I joined back in October of 2019 (apparently I'M the one who can't read, however lmao), but what did you want from me? did you want me to keep on twitter or did you want me to come here directly?
you're building a strawman as well. when did I say Vic admitted to "everything"? I'm pretty sure I'm being clear that he admitted to making physical contact with Jamie validating the part of her story that he grabbed her hair but denies he said anything sexual and argues the perception of that incident. did you interpret that as "VIC ADMITTED TO EVERYTHING"? pretty autistic extrapolation tbh.

So he's "mentally ill" on top of being retarded and incapable of basic reading. With it even in front of him, he has no idea. Deaf, blind and stupid.


First mistake, ron isn't married to monica and will probably never be. Everyone using the out of context gif, including ron, as the definitive proof of something never said or done is a question of honesty so of course their honesty comes into question. If you could hear and read, the very obvious would be, well, obvious. You seem to think you understand anything, but it's obvious you're very confused. So what part of Vic's deposition where he never says he "grabbed her by the roots of her hair, pulled back, and whisper something sexual" but instead playfully touched it is hard?

yeah, like four years ago I was pretty open about my well-being and was seeking help instead of holding it in to myself. regardless, that was years ago before Dragon Ball Super: Broly was even released, but I know you guys prefer ad hominem over civility lol

>ron isn't married to monica
he's still siding with her lol but okay, i guess that's very important to you

>So what part of Vic's deposition where he never says he "grabbed her by the roots of her hair, pulled back, and whisper something sexual" but instead playfully touched it is hard?
oh, I'm not confused about what he said, he admitted to the physical contact when he grabbed her hair and re-enacts (while describing in words) the way he did it, in a friendly and platonic nature, but you're conflating that with him admitting that Jamie's perception of the events were true and that he indeed whispered something sexual in her ear. I've reiterated multiple times that he's admitted only to the physical contact, but not how Jamie perceived or described the incident, but somehow that's too confusing for you and you're taking it as "Vic admitted to assault" since I included the Texas statute on assault by physical contact. It's not anywhere near what the statute considers sexual assault (https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/pe/htm/pe.22.htm), but could simply be assault.

>instead playfully touched it is hard?
YEAH, that's exactly what I'm saying Vic is talking about. you cant be so dense to realize that I've pointed out that he argues the perception of the incident when he says it was a playful and friendly interaction without also realizing that Vic is saying he made physical contact with Jamie under the presumption that they were having a normal interaction, can you?

Didn't the hair compliment happen years ago? She didn't file a complaint at funimation, she didn't say anything to vic,in fact she continued to be chummy with Vic. If Vic was gonna lie about it,why wouldnt he deny the incident outright? He clearly says he never whispered sexual comments to her or jerked her head to his face. But hey by all means continue taking things out of context & misleading people. It's pretty enjoyable watching simps retreat back to the same Gif as evidence after 3 years not being able to find anything more substantial

and that's exactly what Vic talks about after he re-enacted the hair grab (the physical contact). He admits to making physical contact with her when he grabbed her hair and said "ooooh, this is great!" but denies it was sexual or that he said anything sexual to her, then goes on to point out that this was years ago and they even had another friendly interaction at Funi soon before the allegations were even posted, so he's surprised that the incident was even brought up. It's evidence that Vic's testifying how he made the physical contact, not evidence that Marchi's assertions or perception are/is true. The entire point is that Vic's admission to making physical contact hurts the idea that Marchi is lying, but it doesn't mean she isn't nor does it mean she isn't exaggerating about how he tugged it and pulled back to whisper in her ear. A friendly interaction after the hair-grab isn't at all evidence that she's lying about the incident, however. We could bounce back opinions about why someone would be nice to someone they work with if they'd made them feel uncomfortable in the past, but to say it's clear evidence that she was okay with the hair-grab incident is a bit too definitive, at least imo. I'd say her not filing a complaint with Funi is indicative that she didn't want to do anything about Vic's interaction with her, but not so much as to the reason why not. really, anyone saying that her not filing a complaint is clear evidence of anything besides that would be projecting. Whether she didn't because she's lying about the incident (it seems most ISWV peeps say this) or if she didn't because women are too scared to come out with their #MeToo stories (seems like KV leans toward this idea)

 

[Kridley664]

and that's exactly what Vic talks about after he re-enacted the hair grab (the physical contact). He admits to making physical contact with her when he grabbed her hair and said "ooooh, this is great!" but denies it was sexual or that he said anything sexual to her, then goes on to point out that this was years ago and they even had another friendly interaction at Funi soon before the allegations were even posted, so he's surprised that the incident was even brought up. It's evidence that Vic's testifying how he made the physical contact, not evidence that Marchi's assertions or perception are/is true. The entire point is that Vic's admission to making physical contact hurts the idea that Marchi is lying, but it doesn't mean she isn't nor does it mean she isn't exaggerating about how he tugged it and pulled back to whisper in her ear. A friendly interaction after the hair-grab isn't at all evidence that she's lying about the incident, however. We could bounce back opinions about why someone would be nice to someone they work with if they'd made them feel uncomfortable in the past, but to say it's clear evidence that she was okay with the hair-grab incident is a bit too definitive, at least imo. I'd say her not filing a complaint with Funi is indicative that she didn't want to do anything about Vic's interaction with her, but not so much as to the reason why not. really, anyone saying that her not filing a complaint is clear evidence of anything besides that would be projecting. Whether she didn't because she's lying about the incident (it seems most ISWV peeps say this) or if she didn't because women are too scared to come out with their #MeToo stories (seems like KV leans toward this idea)

Dude, I ain't reading this shit. So contain the calamity that is your mammaries.

 

[TheClappening]

you can clearly see that I joined back in October of 2019

And your first posts are literally today. lmao. Stay mad that the mental gymnastics arguments that didn't convince anyone in 2019 won't convince anyone in 2021.

And you're still wrong about what Vic did being assault, but what else is new.