Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

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James Garcia (highly suspected name) is in his near-30s (28 is heavily implied), unemployed, lives with his mom, and collects welfare. Refuses to find a job, unless it is CEO-level and given to him. Finds anything else as beneath him.

He was born in Romania. His parent(s) survived the collapse of the USSR, then immigrated to the United States after hardship in post-Soviet Romania, bringing him and an unknown number of siblings. No mention of father.

He claims to have a degree (implied to be an Associates) for Business from a community college, where he wigged out frequently and was disciplined by staff.

He believes Sailor Moon is degenerate, but has yet to share his favorite Sailor Scout/Senshi.

He is a white nationalist that supports global segregation and national ethnostates. He is very, VERY not-white though.

He claims to be politically right, but actually falls into authoritarian left. Fails to see this, even though he referenced a chart-test confirming just that.

He states a devotion to the red-pilled ways of MGTOW, but wants to go further than even it's most extreme members and participants.

He has a (highly suspected) Twitter dedicated to crotch shots of Filipino men, and was dumb enough to use the same username on the Kiwi Farms.

He wants to remove age of consent. Originally, 14 was his go-to age, but this keeps getting lower. Fails to acknowledge what many have said in this debate thread, that if you lower the age of consent, it will be taken advantage of to go lower. He says this will not happen, but he is doing exactly that. His most recent go-to age is 12.

He wants to eliminate the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution, replacing them with his manifesto. Fails to understand most right-wing individuals would oppose this, especially coming from a foreign-blooded individual. The left-wing's more extreme followers are likely to support this, but he insists all left-wing individuals are to be imprisoned for slave labor.

He wants to "own the libs", but by staying as a mixed-race person this only supports the left. He admits he himself must be deported to his countries of origin, which are either Latin America, the Balkans (Bosnia), the Philippines, Eastern Europe (Romania), or the Middle East (Israel or Iran, mostly).

He wants the English language purged of all non-English words, especially Latin and French. Fails to understand English is no longer English without these. Furthermore, he believes Liberals, particularly feminist Liberals, hijacked the English language centuries ago to invent words like "underage" and "racism". Despite this, he still uses modern English to type, and will be using it for his manifesto. Said manifesto is over one million (1,000,000) words long.

IQ tests are the be all, end all for him. He proclaims possessing a 145 IQ himself, but has shown no proof. Some users on the Kiwi Farms have outscored him, with proof, but he accepts no IQ test but his own. Fails to share his own version of the test, or acknowledge the hypocrisy of dismissing other IQ tests except his, even when using tests he simultaneously dismisses to justify his IQ. Anyone below 145 IQ is to be deported to prison or labor camps.

He wants to deport all non-whites to their country of origin, no exceptions. Half-whites can stay, but must accept second class status. Only fully white men can lead businesses and govern through politics. White women must marry in their preteens, breed constantly with only white men, and cater and serve their husbands. White women must never work, unless it is domestic house chores. Despite this, his mom works to support him, while he is unemployed and unwilling to find employment.

Having children is how you should receive any voting rights, regardless of the parental quality, and these children must be educated to become respectable husbands and wives, but only according to his preferred standards. Furthermore, voting is pointless unless it already aligns with his beliefs, as he insists upon being a dictator. Fails to understand why this would discourage birthing or likelihood to vote.

The kicker? BoxerShorts47 is Jewish (self confirmed), Filipino (highly suspected), Slavic (self confirmed; Romanian), some sort of Hispanic (accidentally self confirmed), Indo-Iranian (self implied), and Bosnian (implied), by his own words and admittance.

He benefits no way from this so-called Boxtopian world, and is only cucking himself.
 
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Here's an update on Boxy, for any newcomers or long-returning members, to save them 500+ pages of material. That said, this thread is worth a read for the dunks.

The basics:

James Garcia (highly suspected name) is in his near-30s (28 is heavily implied), unemployed, lives with his mom, and collects welfare. Refuses to find a job, unless it is CEO-level and given to him. Finds anything else as beneath him.

He was born in Romania. His parent(s) survived the collapse of the USSR, then immigrated to the United States after hardship in post-Soviet Romania, bringing him and an unknown number of siblings. No mention of father.

He claims to have a degree (implied to be an Associates) for Business from a community college, where he wigged out frequently and was disciplined by staff.

He believes Sailor Moon is degenerate, but has yet to share his favorite Sailor Scout/Senshi.

He is a white nationalist that supports global segregation and national ethnostates. He is very, VERY not-white though.

He claims to be politically right, but actually falls into authoritarian left. Fails to see this, even though he referenced a chart-test confirming just that.

He states a devotion to the red-pilled ways of MGTOW, but wants to go further than even it's most extreme members and participants.

He has a (highly suspected) Twitter dedicated to crotch shots of Filipino men, and was dumb enough to use the same username on the Kiwi Farms.

He wants to remove age of consent. Originally, 14 was his go-to age, but this keeps getting lower. Fails to acknowledge what many have said in this debate thread, that if you lower the age of consent, it will be taken advantage of to go lower. He says this will not happen, but he is doing exactly that. His most recent go-to age is 12.

He wants to eliminate the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution, replacing them with his manifesto. Fails to understand most right-wing individuals would oppose this, especially coming from a foreign-blooded individual. The left-wing's more extreme followers are likely to support this, but he insists all left-wing individuals are to be imprisoned for slave labor.

He wants to "own the libs", but by staying as a mixed-race person this only supports the left. He admits he himself must be deported to his countries of origin, which are either Latin America, the Balkans (Bosnia), the Philippines, Eastern Europe (Romania), or the Middle East (Israel or Iran, mostly).

He wants the English language purged of all non-English words, especially Latin and French. Fails to understand English is no longer English without these. Furthermore, he believes Liberals, particularly feminist Liberals, hijacked the English language centuries ago to invent words like "underage" and "racism". Despite this, he still uses modern English to type, and will be using it for his manifesto. Said manifesto is over one million (1,000,000) words long.

IQ tests are the be all, end all for him. He proclaims possessing a 145 IQ himself, but has shown no proof. Some users on the Kiwi Farms have outscored him, with proof, but he accepts no IQ test but his own. Fails to share his own version of the test, or acknowledge the hypocrisy of dismissing other IQ tests except his, even when using tests he simultaneously dismisses to justify his IQ. Anyone below 145 IQ is to be deported to prison or labor camps.

He wants to deport all non-whites to their country of origin, no exceptions. Half-whites can stay, but must accept second class status. Only fully white men can lead businesses and govern through politics. White women must marry in their preteens, breed constantly with only white men, and cater and serve their husbands. White women must never work, unless it is domestic house chores. Despite this, his mom works to support him, while he is unemployed and unwilling to find employment.

Having children is how you should receive any voting rights, regardless of the parental quality, and these children must be educated to become respectable husbands and wives, but only according to his preferred standards. Furthermore, voting is pointless unless it already aligns with his beliefs, as he insists upon being a dictator. Fails to understand why this would discourage birthing or likelihood to vote.

The kicker? BoxerShorts47 is Jewish (self confirmed), Filipino (highly suspected), Slavic (self confirmed; Romanian), some sort of Hispanic (accidentally self confirmed), Indo-Iranian (self implied), and Bosnian (implied), by his own words and admittance.

He benefits no way from this so-called Boxtopian world, and is only cucking himself.
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:story: What a deranged Faggot!
 
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The powers that be have whined for years about the aging population and told people to fuck more. And many Western countries have increased public funding for mothers and child care to combat it with little success.
Saying replacement migration is not a solution to declining birth rates is completely optical. Saying the elites are secretly plotting to make white people have less children and go extinct isn't.
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1. Economic issues including affordable housing are lowering birthrate but social issues too like building society around equal pay and telling women to waste their most fertile years in university and education are major problems too. Simply increasing tax credits is not a solution for these systemic issues.
2. The public has never voted or even discussed population replacement / replacement migration. It's been forced on people general public through govt policy and attacking critiques as racist or xenophobic. I doubt most elites have realized these policies will result in the extinction of their people but ignorance is no excuse.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Economic issues including affordable housing are lowering birthrate but social issues too like building society around equal pay and telling women to waste their most fertile years in university and education are major problems too. Simply increasing tax credits is not a solution for these systemic issues.
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Yet people in much worse economical situations tend to have much more children. And we've seen it in every country regardless of race.

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2. The public has never voted or even discussed population replacement / replacement migration. It's been forced on people general public through govt policy and attacking critiques as racist or xenophobic. I doubt most elites have realized these policies will result in the extinction of their people but ignorance is no excuse.
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Migration has always been a much debated topic and you always had organisations with anti-immigration platforms. These include leftist forces like labor unions who always saw immigration as a way to depress worker wages.
Also by crying about white genocide you're actively harming your own anti-immigration platforms and just prove the people right who immediately cry "racist".


I believe the real white genocide is that white people are targeted by mean stickers more to make them lose their will to live and procreate.
 
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Yet people in much worse economical situations tend to have much more children. And we've seen it in every country regardless of race.
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that's relative. these people in worse economic situations also generally have a lower consumer price index and a society where marriage ands kids are the norm.

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Migration has always been a much debated topic and you always had organisations with anti-immigration platforms. These include leftist forces like labor unions who always saw immigration as a way to depress worker wages.
Also by crying about white genocide you're actively harming your own anti-immigration platforms and just prove the people right who immediately cry "racist".


I believe the real white genocide is that white people are targeted by mean stickers more to make them lose their will to live and procreate.
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You're being dishonest. I've debated with shitlibs on twitter who say "white genocide is great, fuck white people" or "brown is beautiful." You're being a coward by not embracing white genocide and this tells me that on the inside you know what you're doing is wrong but you're too scared to deviate because you don't want to be called a racist.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
that's relative. these people in worse economic situations also generally have a lower consumer price index and a society where marriage ands kids are the norm.
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Lower CPI doesn't do you any good if your wages are much lower.
Marriage and kids are the norm in most white conservative places. And are less expected in minority-heavy urban areas. Clearly, the elites are trying to genocide minorities.

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You're being dishonest. I've debated with shitlibs on twitter who say "white genocide is great, fuck white people" or "brown is beautiful." You're being a coward by not embracing white genocide and this tells me that on the inside you know what you're doing is wrong but you're too scared to deviate because you don't want to be called a racist.
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Wow, a random retard on Twitter sperging with another random retard on Twitter. That's almost as important for national politics than sticker ethics on a CWC fan forum.
 
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Lower CPI doesn't do you any good if your wages are much lower.
Marriage and kids are the norm in most white conservative places. And are less expected in minority-heavy urban areas. Clearly, the elites are trying to genocide minorities.


Wow, a random retard on Twitter sperging with another random retard on Twitter. That's almost as important to national politics than sticker ethics on a CWC fan forum.
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Evasion. Come back when you're willing to go full leftist and embrace white genocide. No fun debating cowards.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
No, you're just using low iq marginalization tactics. You aren't seriously owning your position.
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So to step through your logic:
1. Guy disagrees with me on white genocide
2. It's impossible to disagree with me because someone on Twitter also believes in white genocide
3. Therefore guy doesn't actually believe the thing he argues for
4. Therefore arguments that are true no matter what the person making them believes are invalid somehow.
5. And that's evasion somehow
 
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So to step through your logic:
1. Guy disagrees with me on white genocide
2. It's impossible to disagree with me because someone on Twitter also believes in white genocide
3. Therefore guy doesn't actually believe the thing he argues for
4. Therefore arguments that are true no matter what the person making them believes are invalid somehow.
5. And that's evasion somehow
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1. Yes or No; do you support white genocide?
 
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