Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Hồ Chí Minh]

It's 2021 FSF Rewind time!
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This post is off-topic; this thread the "Open source community" thread, but Free Software is not Open Source. It is something completely different and bears no relation to Open Source at all. My friend Richard told me and my friend Richard is always right!

Anyhow, I love how they slapped on a "Copyleft" sort-of license on the code sample at 0:35. Otherwise someone might STEAL the code and/or someone might not realize they can re-use it!

I don't really disagree with the general gist of the message, but the FSF has the autistic super-power to make everything a) cringe, and b) ineffective and merely preaching to the choir.

Oh God, this one is even worse: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-university-of-costumed-heroes-a-video-from-the-fsf

 

[Vivec]

Oh God, this one is even worse: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-university-of-costumed-heroes-a-video-from-the-fsf

That's some high octane cringe.

Here are the webm files for archival, first is 360p, second is 720p:

 

[Least Concern]

It's 2021 FSF Rewind time!
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Who was this made for? It's not an accurate representation of software development, medicine, or the pandemic - pretty much anyone associated with any field they're saying will be improved by free software here will not see an accurate representation of their field in this thing.

I mean, I do change into my Programmer Lab Coat every day after I get to the office, but…

 

[Marvin]

It's 2021 FSF Rewind time!
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lol, like, the thrust of it is correct. Free software is better quality. But their jabs at copyright are retarded. Free software licenses rely on copyright being enforced.

Chicoms ignoring copyright does significantly more damage than for-profit businesses in the west. Businesses in the west contribute significantly to free software, they just don't open source 100% of their work. Western businesses actually respect the licenses, if for no other reason than they're legally obligated to and we actually have a functional legal system here that enables that.

This stuff seems to be made by the whole "late capitalism, whooo communism and free stuff" crowd who don't actually think about how this stuff stays free.

 

[Vivec]

lol, like, the thrust of it is correct. Free software is better quality. But their jabs at copyright are retarded. Free software licenses rely on copyright being enforced.

Chicoms ignoring copyright does significantly more damage than for-profit businesses in the west. Businesses in the west contribute significantly to free software, they just don't open source 100% of their work. Western businesses actually respect the licenses, if for no other reason than they're legally obligated to and we actually have a functional legal system here that enables that.

This stuff seems to be made by the whole "late capitalism, whooo communism and free stuff" crowd who don't actually think about how this stuff stays free.

Chicoms may respect your copyright too if you litter your code with references to June 4th. I realize that anyone can delete a license file, but what happens when a key variable is only referenced dynamically in the form of an xor between strings "June 4th 1989" and "Tienanmen square massacre" as a checksum?

I haven't implemented this in any projects yet myself, but it's likely more effective than the anti China licenses are. It requires work to remove (vs deleting a file), and that means someone would have to interact with the no-no strings. You could even obfuscate the code, salt the string so the process couldn't be automated, etc.

 

[Raven Rainbow]

Who was this made for? It's not an accurate representation of software development, medicine, or the pandemic - pretty much anyone associated with any field they're saying will be improved by free software here will not see an accurate representation of their field in this thing.

It's for the people trying to cancel FSF itself due to Stallman.

 

[Coolio55]

It's for the people trying to cancel FSF itself due to Stallman.

Is it though? Stallman is a bit like JK Rowling in that he has almost identical sensibilities to the people trying to cancel him.

 

[Uncle Ted's Cabin]

It's 2021 FSF Rewind time!
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lol, like, the thrust of it is correct. Free software is better quality. But their jabs at copyright are retarded. Free software licenses rely on copyright being enforced.

Chicoms ignoring copyright does significantly more damage than for-profit businesses in the west. Businesses in the west contribute significantly to free software, they just don't open source 100% of their work. Western businesses actually respect the licenses, if for no other reason than they're legally obligated to and we actually have a functional legal system here that enables that.

This stuff seems to be made by the whole "late capitalism, whooo communism and free stuff" crowd who don't actually think about how this stuff stays free.

That is some exceptionally low quality animation. I'm surprised they didn't make the head villain white in the second one.

 

[Frail Snail]

Who was this made for? It's not an accurate representation of software development, medicine, or the pandemic - pretty much anyone associated with any field they're saying will be improved by free software here will not see an accurate representation of their field in this thing.

I mean, I do change into my Programmer Lab Coat every day after I get to the office, but…

People who are already on board with what the FSF is preaching. They have a big problem with trying to present their arguments in a normal fashion to non-coders and non-autists, from Stallman with his wordplays to this.

 

[ScatmansWorld]

People who are already on board with what the FSF is preaching. They have a big problem with trying to present their arguments in a normal fashion to non-coders and non-autists, from Stallman with his wordplays to this.

“Imagine if you bought a car and instead of being able to open the hood and examine the engine, everything was concealed in a huge lockbox with a 500 character passcode that only the manufacturer knows. You have no way of seeing what the car’s internals actually look like or what they do, and if you try to brute force the lockbox open and figure it out anyways, you can be put in jail. That’s what every piece of proprietary software is like.”

There, that’s probably a good enough summation of the FSF philosophy and I just came up with it on the spot.

 

[Dick Justice]

“Imagine if you bought a car and instead of being able to open the hood and examine the engine, everything was concealed in a huge lockbox with a 500 character passcode that only the manufacturer knows. You have no way of seeing what the car’s internals actually look like or what they do, and if you try to brute force the lockbox open and figure it out anyways, you can be put in jail. That’s what every piece of proprietary software is like.”

There, that’s probably a good enough summation of the FSF philosophy and I just came up with it on the spot.

Oh, and half the cars have a little bomb inside sync'd to go off with the release of next year's model.

 

[Frail Snail]

“Imagine if you bought a car and instead of being able to open the hood and examine the engine, everything was concealed in a huge lockbox with a 500 character passcode that only the manufacturer knows. You have no way of seeing what the car’s internals actually look like or what they do, and if you try to brute force the lockbox open and figure it out anyways, you can be put in jail. That’s what every piece of proprietary software is like.”

There, that’s probably a good enough summation of the FSF philosophy and I just came up with it on the spot.

Sort of, yeah. But there's also a sticker on your car that says you have to describe in full detail every modification you made to it when asked or lawyer up. Otherwise it's just no strings attached open source licensing.

 

[haunted vagina]

There, that’s probably a good enough summation of the FSF philosophy and I just came up with it on the spot.

Hmm, it's almost as if it is in fact possible to explain the pro-open source position without adding a bunch of stuff about how age of consent laws are fascism and Cuba is a social paradise ... has anyone told Stallman about this?

 

[Next Task]

Is it though? Stallman is a bit like JK Rowling in that he has almost identical sensibilities to the people trying to cancel him.

Those are exactly the people who they're trying to cancel hardest. Sure, they go after even a whiff of alt-right on an individual basis, but if the group/person is powerful enough and is openly politically different, then they have much less influence. Their biggest moves are shunning and shaming, and that works a lot better when someone is mostly aligned with them, and therefore has relationships (personal and professional) that they stand to lose by not falling into line.

This doesn't work if the person or group won't lose anything from a few troons and dangerhairs calling them a fascist and distancing themselves from you and your work. What people are too slowly coming to realise is that in reality, those troons and dangerhairs distancing themselves from your work is always a benefit, never a loss. But it's so much easier to bully someone who is 'on your side' but not enough than it is to someone who doesn't give a shit what you think.

That, combined with the tyranny of small differences and demands for total ideological lockstep, is why they're so much more likely to go after someone who 99% believes in the same things they do.

 

[Hồ Chí Minh]

Is it though? Stallman is a bit like JK Rowling in that he has almost identical sensibilities to the people trying to cancel him.

Not really; because Rowling isn't really the most prominent figure-head/"leader" of a community. All I want is have someone be the most prominent fronthead for the community be someone who:

1. Does not eat pieces of his foot in front of an audience while giving a presentation.
2. Has a personal hygiene that at least vaguely resembles normality.
3. Does not forbid discussion on how to best advance Free Software/Open Source merely because he personally disagrees with it.
4. Will not distract the entire movement with personal humbugs and pedantics such as "aktushually it's muh gnu plus linux".

You know; that sort of thing. Basically a vaguely normal person instead of someone who a casual observer could confuse with CWC.

Most people I know that are into Free Software have somewhat mixed feelings about Stallman *at best*, or just outright think he's a joke. That has always been the case, for the last 20-odd years I've been involved.

The whole MIT/Minsky thing was extremely unfortunate; it was a load of rubbish with the most bad-faith possible reading of what he *actually* said, and the list of problems with rms run so much deeper than some comment on a mailing list. And because of all the SJW retardism you're now either in camp "kiddie-fucking nonce" or camp "dangerhair SJW", all of which is a distraction of what we should *actually* be talking about.

He may have started the "Free Software" movement, but also single-handedly made sure it never really took off. If you care about Free Software, you should definitely "cancel" rms on account of being the worst possible advocate for it.

 

[Least Concern]

He may have started the "Free Software" movement, but also single-handedly made sure it never really took off. If you care about Free Software, you should definitely "cancel" rms on account of being the worst possible advocate for it.

It's hard to say that free software never took off when the Internet runs on Linux and BSD, Open/LibreSSL dominates the tech that makes online shopping relatively safe, terabytes of data are stored in free database systems like SQLite, MySQL/MariaDB, and Postgres, there are no closed-source HTML or JS engines of significance anymore… I could go on. Yes, there are still companies and industries that primarily run on enterprisey closed-source stuff from Microsoft or what have you but they looked like anachronisms twenty years ago. Modern computing is empowered by FOSS unless you're trying really hard for it not to be.

At any rate, does FOSS really need a singular champion? I don't think one can exist for the same reason Stallman can't be that champion; personal/hygiene issues aside, the reasons and methodology for using or contributing to FOSS are so varied that any time you get one person trying to be a voice for it, you're going to get a dozen other people using FOSS for valid reasons disagreeing with them.

 

[AnOminous]

He is William Pitcock from around Tulsa, Oklahoma. NIgga is called Willy PitCock lmao.

Why are these troons always so utterly laughable? Even their NAMES mock them. BILL PITCOCK. Rofl lmao.

 

[El Goblina]

JWZ and his butt-buddies are butthurt over Mozilla soliciting donations in crypto.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

Imagine using Firefox in the year of our lord 2022.

 

[DumbDude42]

anyone who bitches about carbon neutral should immediately stop using all electronic devices
for the environment, of course