The Final Fantasy Thread

You're The Man Now Dog said:
Final Fantasy Tactics was pretty similar, but it's balanced a lot better so it's harder to completely break the game. Unless you use Calculator. Fuck that job.
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Final Fantasy Tactics and Balanced should never be in the same Universe..much less sentence.

Off the Top of my head

Ramza Scream Hax
Calculators + Elemental Absorb Armor + CT Targeting Magic
Blade Grasp
Mustadio + Knight Skills
Beowulf's Status Magic
Rafa being able to set himself to be immune magic while dealing absurd magic damage because his special magic was based on low faith instead of high
TG Cid
Dancer + Ninja Invisible counter attack (the dance triggers don't count as an action so the damage dance won't break it)
Cloud's Finishing Touch
A dancer + a bard + 3 Mimes (Mimes will mime each dance/sing trigger)
The Higher forms of Hydra monsters.

TG Cid is remembered because he is the Broken thing..in a game of absurdly broken things.
 
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Berrakh said:
Zidane and Bartz are probably a better influence than Zell
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Zell Dincht is a phenomenally low bar to surpass.

eternal dog mongler said:
Mostly because people struggled through the game without knowing about any of those things, and then suddenly here comes TG Cid who just fucking deletes every enemy you throw him at.
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I tried my hand at the PSP version of FFT a long ass time ago and I can tell you this much: I didn't know jack shit about the blatantly broken stuff in the game because that Gamefaqs guide I used was last updated in 2003. Obviously with hindsight and speedruns broadcast by RPG Limit Break, that's changed.

I think the point that @You're The Man Now Dog was trying to make is that if you're playing it for the first time completely blind (or using an extremely outdated guide like I was), it's a relatively balanced experience.
 
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Dread First said:
I tried my hand at the PSP version of FFT a long ass time ago and I can tell you this much: I didn't know jack shit about the blatantly broken stuff in the game because that Gamefaqs guide I used was last updated in 2003. Obviously with hindsight and speedruns broadcast by RPG Limit Break, that's changed.
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When the PSX original came out gaming magazines at the time had advice like "if you're having trouble with a battle make all of your dudes knights so they can equip armor that gives them more HP."

This is waaay before the era where people intuitively knew how to break games. Riovanes was a hard wall for me since I only had one save slot on my memory card and saved before the Wiegraf battle. Y'all kids never knew the difficulty we went through.
 
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eternal dog mongler said:
When the PSX original came out gaming magazines at the time had advice like "if you're having trouble with a battle make all of your dudes knights so they can equip armor that gives them more HP."

This is waaay before the era where people intuitively knew how to break games. Riovanes was a hard wall for me since I only had one save slot on my memory card and saved before the Wiegraf battle. Y'all kids never knew the difficulty we went through.
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Can't say that I can relate to the memory card struggle since I had a 4GB memory card on my PSP way back when. However, that lack of information was such a fucking bottleneck for me.

My first playthrough of FF7 was a fucking nightmare because this was before I got my own PC. I had to make do with the family computer and my family damn sure wouldn't let me hog the PC for the sake of reading the GameFAQs guide as I'm playing FF7. You know what this meant? I had to go walk all the way to the library, use up my 20 free pages on one part of the poorly-formatted GameFAQs guide, resume playing the game while referring to that specific part of the guide I printed out, then rinse repeat when I needed the next part of the guide.

Say what you will about Crisis Core, but at least the game was easy and linear enough to the point where you didn't need a guide unless you wanted to complete all the missions or obtain some obscure materias.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Rafa being able to set himself to be immune magic while dealing absurd magic damage because his special magic was based on low faith instead of high
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You mean Malak. Rafa was only good for item hunting in Deep Dungeon.

And now I'm having flashbacks to item hunting in that shithole and trying to get the final summon.
Dread First said:
Zell Dincht is a phenomenally low bar to surpass.
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How so? I never got the Zell hate, he's one of your best damage dealers, isn't constantly mopey, and hooks up with that kung fu librarian chick.
 
Coldgrip said:
How so? I never got the Zell hate, he's one of your best damage dealers, isn't constantly mopey, and hooks up with that kung fu librarian chick.
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I can agree that Zell's a fair enough character to use in your party. I personally hate using him because I can't stand his fucking idiotic dialogue and his obnoxious personality. Squall's issue as a character is that he doesn't express himself enough. Zell's issue is the exact opposite: he doesn't fucking know when to shut up. The only times I actually like Zell is when he's getting worked up over Seifer and then Seifer's just like "Excuse me, but who the fuck are you again?"
 
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Dread First said:
My first playthrough of FF7 was a fucking nightmare because this was before I got my own PC. I had to make do with the family computer and my family damn sure wouldn't let me hog the PC for the sake of reading the GameFAQs guide as I'm playing FF7. You know what this meant? I had to go walk all the way to the library, use up my 20 free pages on one part of the poorly-formatted GameFAQs guide, resume playing the game while referring to that specific part of the guide I printed out, then rinse repeat when I needed the next part of the guide.
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Those fucking guides were the primordial equivalent of unedited Youtube LPs.

Horrifyingly large ASCII headers and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes turned into horrifyingly long intros and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes.
 
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eternal dog mongler said:
Horrifyingly large ASCII headers and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes turned into horrifyingly long intros and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes.
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Don't forget the biggest slap in the face: "Highest Rated" and "Most Recommended," meanwhile they were last updated in 2004-2007.
 
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Dread First said:
The only times I actually like Zell is when he's getting worked up over Seifer and then Seifer's just like "Excuse me, but who the fuck are you again?"
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Now that you mention that, Squall and Seifer have a similar dynamic. Seifer talks too much, is obnoxious at times and the while the game tries to build him up like he's some sort of real threat, all the fights against him are just you kicking his ass and Squall acting bored.

Thinking about it further, whoever translated and localized this game really fucked up the characters.

eternal dog mongler said:
Those fucking guides were the primordial equivalent of unedited Youtube LPs.

Horrifyingly large ASCII headers and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes turned into horrifyingly long intros and useful information buried in the weird personal anecdotes.
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It was like deciphering some ancient text for some clue about where treasure might be. Not gonna lie, it was fun in a very weird way.
 
I recall how in the PSP version of Tactics, there was this mission right after you got Cid where you fought a zombified version of that one guy who betrayed you early in the game and a shit ton of demons.

I tried not using Cid since I heard how broken he was and could not get past the mission. Turned out, he was tailor made for it as he was one shotting those demons and made it much easier.
 
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Overcast said:
there was this mission right after you got Cid where you fought a zombified version of that one guy who betrayed you early in the game and a shit ton of demons.
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Algus, and getting to smite his nigger ass with TG Cid is why the PSP version is the best (well that and the ability to make Dark Knights even if the requirements for them were fucking Faggotry incarnate).
 
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Overcast said:
I recall how in the PSP version of Tactics, there was this mission right after you got Cid where you fought a zombified version of that one guy who betrayed you early in the game and a shit ton of demons.
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That map's actually not so easy if you're avoiding cheese too. It was pretty well designed.

(I will never forgive them for giving Elmdor Safeguard)
 
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