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ArmedBlueReploid said:
Bad Dragon is debatably the worst shopping website in the universe. Below, I'll show you some ideas that just drove me off the deep end.

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Really? An Inkling dildo of all things? Never mind the fact that the Inklings are KIDS (hence the Squid Kid commercial and meme), but why would Inklings even bother having sex when they're too busy having turf wars and waiting for the next splatfest? The most confusing aspect is that Splatoon takes place after the human species went extinct, and BD's product descriptions make it seem as though you're supposed to be there as a human, but you clearly CAN'T be there in this case.
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Normally I'd assume this fan idea would go nowhere since Inklings are copyrighted characters and Nintendo is more than capable of suing the pants of Bad Dragon. But since BD has recently started doing blatant My Little Pony sex toys, there's a possibility they might do a totally-not-an-Inkling sex toy if there's enough interest. *sigh*
 
nonnewtonian said:
Normally I'd assume this fan idea would go nowhere since Inklings are copyrighted characters and Nintendo is more than capable of suing the pants of Bad Dragon. But since BD has recently started doing blatant My Little Pony sex toys, there's a possibility they might do a totally-not-an-Inkling sex toy if there's enough interest. *sigh*
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That's the world for you. You think karma's going to hit them, but throws up its hands and decides "Fuck it, They don't deserve it."
 
I'm of the volition that Bad Dragon are expert trolls in the fandom. Yes, they are making MLP toys but look at it this way, they're a novelty sex toy company. They have no dignity to lose. Bronies (and furries) are notoriously poor with money and won't bat an eye dropping >$100 on a pastel purple horse fleshlight. That's easy money. That Splatoon toy looks like something from the Bad Dragon Labs fan submission section of the site, so the likelihood of that going to production is near zero, they get a million of those every day.
 
Super Collie said:
I'm of the volition that Bad Dragon are expert trolls in the fandom. Yes, they are making MLP toys but look at it this way, they're a novelty sex toy company. They have no dignity to lose. Bronies (and furries) are notoriously poor with money and won't bat an eye dropping >$100 on a pastel purple horse fleshlight. That's easy money. That Splatoon toy looks like something from the Bad Dragon Labs fan submission section of the site, so the likelihood of that going to production is near zero, they get a million of those every day.
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It's a safe bet Hasbro has decided to turn a blind eye to this. They aren't directly using the trademarks, which would force Hasbro to respond, and without doing that, all pursuing a pointless case against a dodgy operator like BD would do is win a Pyrrhic victory and a shit-ton of news stories about MLP sex toys. The last thing they want.
 
AnOminous said:
It's a safe bet Hasbro has decided to turn a blind eye to this. They aren't directly using the trademarks, which would force Hasbro to respond, and without doing that, all pursuing a pointless case against a dodgy operator like BD would do is win a Pyrrhic victory and a shit-ton of news stories about MLP sex toys. The last thing they want.
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Couldn't they just claim it's a parody? You know in like the same ways most porn parody's get away with similar shit.
 
creamyfanta said:
Please. If you want some real furry music videos full of sweet, sweet autism, watch the Dancing Duke shit.
https://www.youtube.com/user/thatdancingdog

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Bokrug's Basement said:

I think everyone needs to be reminded of this video.
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You can really tell that most furries are gay men.

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Reddit Avenger said:
Couldn't they just claim it's a parody? You know in like the same ways most porn parody's get away with similar shit.
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Most porn parodies get away with it for the same reason, that it just isn't economically reasonable to pursue it, at least when they're pretty clearly infringing as they are here, or at least arguably infringing. I'd say arguably infringing to the extent it would survive a summary judgment motion and get to the point something like Bad Dragon couldn't afford to defend, which is all that really matters these days.

People aren't ironically ramming these dildos up their asses and fucking these Fleshlights as a form of postmodern humor. They're sex toys and their marketability and increased price is almost entirely because they're piggybacking on someone else's intellectual property.

To get to the crux of the argument, though, you'd have to have Hasbro's lawyers making all kinds of ridiculous sounding arguments that would look horrible in the press, basically that these fuckable artificial horse pussies could not possibly be the pussies of any ponies but the ones in our show to sell more innocent toys to children.

Hasbro isn't going to do that and Bad Dragon knows, or at least is betting on that.

I think they're probably on fairly safe ground.

I don't think their parody argument in an actual lawsuit would be worth much, though.
 
Not when the parody includes commercial accessories, it wouldn't.

But you're right that the PR disaster isn't worth the fight and they sure as hell aren't going to start offering branded dildos, so there's nothing to be gained in the market either, and they're certainly not going to lose their intellectual property rights by turning a blind eye to it, given how much legitimate product they sell.

Same reason every cheap Taiwanese knock-off action figure company isn't sued, the small ones aren't worth the time to hunt down because the fad will eventually run it's course so maximize your profits while you can, which includes not paying lawyers if you don't have to.
 
Well, fake My Little Pony sex toys aren't the only "parody" sex toys they have, they've been doing this for a while really. They have a dick of Toothless from How To Train Your Dragon, they have a Xenomorph dong, I mean right now their website is a parody of Vault-tec stuff from Fallout. Porno parody stuff has existed forever though, and yea it's just not worth the company's time to fight it over.

That said, Hasbro HAS sent C&D letters to some pony smut peddlers (iirc PurpleKecleon got one for her pony porno comics and buttons, some dakimakura site got one for their pony body pillows), though that may be more because they were directly using the actual official pony characters for their stuff, versus what Bad Dragon is doing and making their own ponies up to peddle their dildos. So it's not beyond Hasbro to fight it a little bit at least.
 
Speaking of Bad Dragon, there was an incident that came to light a few months ago that resulted in a police report being filed mentioning the CEO of the company "Kamo Wolf". A former employee of Bad Dragon claims that Kamo raped him and is also an animal abuser.

http://shanealexander.livejournal.com/718.html
One of my own sexual assault experiences that im hear to address was from an ex boyfriend some years back,most of you may know him now or one of his many aliases,fursonas or Pup handler/alpha pup role...
He was born as Eric Silveiro and had a legal name changed as Kamo Two Paws.
He is also going by other aliases such as Duke the Bad Dragon(Twitter)Kamo Wolf,K2P,Kobel the Husky, Chico the Rottwieler,KamoDraggy,KamoMutt,Mutt,Moonshine Mutt,Muttpaws,Knottydog and im sure some other names or suits im unaware of so please feel free to add if you know anymore.
He is also the Head of Bad Dragon next to Varka and im told he owns 51% controlling shares of the company as of recently.

After knowing him all these years ive watched him systematically pray on many people both male and female,including minors,and stepping far outside the rhelm of zoophilia or whats generally accepted withen the zoofur community and into the rhelm of bestiality forcing dogs into sex acts,including my own german shepherd when he was a puppy before I found out,freaked out and stopped it.
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There's links to more posts and some discussion in this Vivisector thread.

Shane's most recent post on the matter also has some interesting allegations in it (emphasis mine):
My former employer and Jamie Predergast aka: Bleu Colt
I spent several years with these ppl of and on from 2010 till going fulltime at the end of 2013 until present.

I was working for AND *trying* to get them to take better care of their petting zoo animals and to stop their son from inviting having sex parties (last one being select members of the Bad Dragon crew and friends in November 2014) with the horses to no avail,and since that did not work AND the owners of the business and his parents (Primarly his mother) are now trying to help him cover this up and continue in this behavior so I quit a few days ago and reported ALL of them AGAIN to local agencies.
This is now the 4th time.

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To add further aggravation the local agency that usually investigates and prosecutes these types of crimes (Maricopa county sheriffs office) also seems to be trying to avoid it after I mentioned a few of the ppl at these sex parties were either current or former law enforcement with their agency.
They really didnt seem to like to hear that and thats when most correspondence was starting to be ignored.
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So if you wanted to know why none of the Bad Dragon crew have been busted in any of Maricopa County's many bestiality busts, now you know.
 
JFKdestroyer said:
Speaking of Bad Dragon, there was an incident that came to light a few months ago that resulted in a police report being filed mentioning the CEO of the company "Kamo Wolf". A former employee of Bad Dragon claims that Kamo raped him and is also an animal abuser.

http://shanealexander.livejournal.com/718.html


There's links to more posts and some discussion in this Vivisector thread.

Shane's most recent post on the matter also has some interesting allegations in it (emphasis mine):


So if you wanted to know why none of the Bad Dragon crew have been busted in any of Maricopa County's many bestiality busts, now you know.
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Wasn't that guy also a dog fucker who said Bad Dragon guy's dog fucking was worse just because of the age of the dog?

I remember there was a Livejornal or something going around about a year ago going around with his full story.

It read the same as our very own "I'd like to preface this by saying I like the idea of fucking dogs." Except he actually did it.
 
2Spoopy said:
Wasn't that guy also a dog fucker who said Bad Dragon guy's dog fucking was worse just because of the age of the dog?

I remember there was a Livejornal or something going around about a year ago going around with his full story.

It read the same as our very own "I'd like to preface this by saying I like the idea of fucking dogs." Except he actually did it.
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Yup. Shane Alexander admitted to being a zoophile in his original statement.
I don't care about my own dirty laundry or being outed as a former zoo or spending time in jail,or any of my multiple issues from the past or present.
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He used to go by the name "pokeypony" and it looks like he got himself banned from FA due to his "love" of animals. He was (is?) also in a relationship with Brandon "WildWulf" Vongthongrip, a man who was convicted of animal abuse for raping his dog hundreds of times over the course of several years. (Source) This relationship appears to have started after Shane's breakup with Kamo (Shane says the relationship with Kamo began in 2005, his FA profile shows him and Brandon being together as of 2009). So while he was angry with Kamo for raping his puppy, he was a-okay with Brandon raping his own dog. Guess it's a property thing for him.
I do think Shane's accusations against Kamo could have some merit (given what I've seen from the rest of Bad Dragon's upper echelons), but you're right in that this is a major "pot, meet kettle" situation. These recent accusations being brought up against BD staff and police only after his case was dropped is really sketchy, too.
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If I ever meet a furry in real life, I'll smash his head with a cinder block and leave him to die in a drainage ditch with the rest of the filth.
 
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