US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gar For Archer]

I’m loathe to admit it... but that might actually be marginally effective. Not among any half-way reasonable people, admittedly, but amongst the ‘diversity is our strength’ types, that could legitimately help turnout.

Buuuuuut...

You only get to use that card until you win once, if this is intended to be used for a Kamala run for president. Each of these ‘first female president’ or ‘first (openly) gay president’ or the like... they lose effectiveness in turnout after they actually coming to pass. Unlike Obama, anyone running for President purely on being black will have a significantly harder time I’d say, for example.

So... sure, go ahead and try to burn one of the last cards in the deck you have. I’m sure you won’t be cursing that even if you do somehow win.

It didn’t work for Hillary, it’s not gonna work for Kamala.

Hillary, at least, had unironic normie supporters, but nobody likes Kamala. They might say they like her to be woke, but they don’t actually.

 

[Nate Scully 025]

It didn’t work for Hillary, it’s not gonna work for Kamala.

Hillary, at least, had unironic normie supporters, but nobody likes Kamala. They might say they like her to be woke, but they don’t actually.

Oh, I wouldn’t say I expect it to actually work. Just that it’s a strategy that while likely to shoot her in the foot if she somehow actually did win, since she’d pretty much have to focus on hiring women rather than people competent at their jobs... it’s not actively terrible for optics like everything else the modern DNC and Kamala in particular seem to do.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Oh, I wouldn’t say I expect it to actually work. Just that it’s a strategy that while likely to shoot her in the foot if she somehow actually did win, since she’d pretty much have to focus on hiring women rather than people competent at their jobs... it’s not actively terrible for optics like everything else the modern DNC and Kamala in particular seem to do.

But when they go on maternity leave, they actually have the right parts to use it.

 

[Gehenna]

Cynical theory is that Mitch doesn't want to deal with the Democrats and the media making a huge scene about the GOP refusing to raise the debt ceiling, since they made HUGE fucking headlines attacking the GOP under Obama when the GOP first weaponized the debt ceiling renewal with wall to wall coverage of the GOP refusing to do so.

Biden probably has the MSM ready to go full "Economic apocalypse if the GOP don't raise the debt ceiling!" doomsaying if Mitch refused, while in turn having the MSM ready to blame any and all economic catastrophes past and future on the debt ceiling not getting raised right away to scapegoat the GOP for Biden killing the economy.

By raising it, Mitch prevents Biden and Democrats from using the debt ceiling fight to bury all sorts of bad shit that the Biden administration is doing, while also denying Democrats what they did under Obama and use the debt ceiling fight to handwave any and all bad economic issues the Democrats have caused with their policies.

I think this may be a part of it, but a larger part is that it just stopped being politically beneficial. The active benefits of kicking the can down the road had a shelf life, a period that they'd be most effective. When the average person hears about it, it makes them dislike the Dems and by extensive aids the Republicans, but the longer that goes on the less that effect remains true. it becomes background noise.

The main benefit then for the Republicans was that it was also helping to rip into a wound for the Democrats... but that too was less and less true as the divisions took lives of their own and the debt ceiling issues became less and less relevant to the inter-party civil war. So in the end the active positive benefits of it were constantly ticking down. This is part of why anyone thinking the debt ceiling would never be raised was simply incorrect.

Now, the interesting thing was that this can-kicking also ensured there'd never be serious repercussions to the GOP for maintaining it. Even in the situation, you outline, the Democrats would have a hard time selling it because they are the ones in power. So with no active detriment and a constantly diminishing benefit, it really became a question of when would the cost of paying off the GOP outweigh the benefit of kicking the can.

The student loan cancellation was never a thing. It was just something to fool tards to vote for Biden.
Same with the 15$ minimum wage, Medicare4All and all the other promises.

Biden has always been establishment. Wall Street will never ever support any of these things and that is why these things will never be anything more than a promise during an election campaign.
I really don't understand the people that actually believed that Mr Establishment himself, WallStreets best friend, would ever implement any of these ideas.

It was a consolation prize, a belief that a very left-wing primary had locked Biden into a policy he didn't want but would have to implement somehow. Going back on it entirely is... not going to go well.

 

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[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It was a consolation prize, a belief that a very left-wing primary had locked Biden into a policy he didn't want but would have to implement somehow. Going back on it entirely is... not going to go well.

Student debt forgiveness was anti-solvent to begin with. Even if Biden's brain wasn't swiss cheese, he wouldn't have done anything about it. Those loans were given to people who had no collateral to begin with, so it's fitting that they'd be led away by a pied piper.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Student debt forgiveness was anti-solvent to begin with. Even if Biden's brain wasn't swiss cheese, he wouldn't have done anything about it. Those loans were given to people who had no collateral to begin with, so it's fitting that they'd be led away by a pied piper.

Didn't Biden author the legislation that made student loans undischargable by bankruptcy?

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

God I hope this is true, 2022-2024 is shaping up to be amazing for us here frens.

Last time someone said a line like that it was Joe and it got us Kamala.

Biden constantly talks about parents taking their kids to McDonalds to use the free wifi for Zoom classes. I don't know if he really knows what those words mean though so he tells the story poorly.

Oh, so he was just saying "Hey everyone! We're all RICH!" I thought he was just being himself and not realizing cellular internet was a thing.

Oh, I wouldn’t say I expect it to actually work. Just that it’s a strategy that while likely to shoot her in the foot if she somehow actually did win, since she’d pretty much have to focus on hiring women rather than people competent at their jobs...

Soooo... Canada?

 

[MirrorNoir]

Didn't Biden author the legislation that made student loans undischargable by bankruptcy?

Yes, which made it even more laughable to believe Biden would do anything to help people drowning in student loan debt at all, since he's the one who fucked everyone over so you couldn't fucking get rid of it via bankruptcy to begin with.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

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>Trump media partnering with Rumble
Why is this man so fucking retarded when it comes to technology? Rumble requires your phone number in order to upload anything, and weren't they cracking down on "antisemitic" content even though they were all about the "truth"?

Just do your own shit without any trackers and gay rules, and just watch people outside of the Trump Bubble flock to you with open arms

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Why is this man so fucking retarded when it comes to technology?

He's a boomer. It comes with the territory. He's trying though, bless his heart.

 

[Pig Cups]

NY bros... it's over

NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio Says He's ‘Very Seriously' Considering Running for Governor​

Spoiler: Full Article

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In a fundraising email sent to supporters Tuesday, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said he is "very seriously" considering running for governor.

"First and foremost, let me answer the question I get a lot of these days: Am I going to run for Governor of New York?", the email reads. "The honest answer is, I am thinking about it. Very seriously."

De Blasio went on to say that he is thinking about entering the gubernatorial race because he believes he can revolutionize public education in this state and guarantee 3-K and Pre-K, after-school programs and summer enrichment for every child who wants it in this state — just like New York City has under his administration.

In the email, the mayor also says he believes he can effectively take on the fossil fuel industry as well as take on the wealthy to pay their fair share.

"In the coming weeks, I want to talk about these issues and more. But I cannot do that, and I certainly cannot run, without your support," the email reads, before sharing a link for those who want to contribute to his campaign committee.

Although De Blasio has yet to officially join the race for governor of New York, the mayor did file paperwork with the Board of Elections to create a fundraising committee.

The Democrat filed paperwork in late October to create a committee called New Yorkers for a Fair Future that will allow him to raise funds for a statewide campaign.

De Blasio, whose second and final term as mayor ends Dec. 31, has spoken broadly about wanting to serve New York state.

“I do want to continue in public service. I do want to do more for the people in this city and this state,” the mayor said previously.

If he does ultimately decide to officially run, De Blasio will face a tough race. According to a poll released last month, Gov. Kathy Hochul holds a commanding lead in a crowded field for the Democratic primary for governor — while the will-he-or-won’t-he mayor lags the field.

Hochul garnered 36% support in the Data for Progress poll, 14 points better than AG Letitia James and 21 points ahead of predecessor Andrew Cuomo — who insists he isn’t running. (The poll was shared with Politico, which reported the results and posted the data early Monday.)

The rest of the actual or potential field is in the single digits, with De Blasio last of six candidates on 3% support. Some 11% remain undecided.

Ha, de Blasio has no fucking chance of winning.

Even though the D in front of de Blasio’s name helps him in NY, I really don’t think he’d be able to pull off a win for governor. Namely because (IIRC) of the balance one has to strike between NYC and upstate.

I.e.: Cuomo did well not just because he had NYC in the bag, but because he was an older school (by todays’ standards) democrat who the people upstate readily embraced, he had a strong coalition among both the urban and rural areas, because though upstate is redder, it’s still quite blue.

From what I glean off my acquaintances, de Blasio is fucking HATED outside of the city. The poz from NYC may very well be insurmountable in most cases, but a TOTAL disconnect between NYC and everything surrounding it could have some potential (I readily concede that I might be way off on this).

 

[Cuckoman]

It was a consolation prize, a belief that a very left-wing primary had locked Biden into a policy he didn't want but would have to implement somehow. Going back on it entirely is... not going to go well.

I think it will have very little to zero negative effect. It was just an empty promise to the young far left to get them energized to go and vote for him.
The absolute worst theoretical outcome is that some of them just will stay home and skip voting next time around, like they usually do,
so that would be status quo.

Are they angry or want to protest vote? No, these people do not even remember that he did not deliver on these issues. For these people there is a new thing to focus on every week and they immediately forget anything prior. They can only hold one thought active at a time.
This is also why a politician should never bend to them or even acknowledge them when they are outraged. Just sit it out and wait, it will not take long, and the loud young progressives will find some new cause and the outrage about you will be forgotten.

Let them be angry. In two weeks time they will have no memory of the event, and you can do it again.

 

[ForgedBlades]

jej

This is what really loses elections. Not foreign policy or tranny bathroom laws. They're fucked.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I’d try to archive these, but on my end, I don’t think it will work. If anyone can do it, it would be much appreciated.

 

[Gehenna]

I think it will have very little to zero negative effect. It was just an empty promise to the young far left to get them energized to go and vote for him.
The absolute worst theoretical outcome is that some of them just will stay home and skip voting next time around, like they usually do,
so that would be status quo.

You are massively downplaying a very serious effect, I am not sure you realize it.

The college vote is instrumental to multiple major races and locations throughout the nation. It and the black vote are the two most firmly Democrat votes in the nation. The college vote is notoriously fickle for turnout, but absolutely important to the Democrats. Depressing it is an absolutely stupid idea, and part of proof is the Virginia and NJ election where those core voters just -did not- turn out.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Yes, which made it even more laughable to believe Biden would do anything to help people drowning in student loan debt at all, since he's the one who fucked everyone over so you couldn't fucking get rid of it via bankruptcy to begin with.

It's almost as silly as believing the co-author of 90s era tough on crime was the BLM candidate. Or that the man from Citibank actually gave a rat's ass about left wing economic populism. Then again, a lot of the far leftists seemed to be huffing the Vaush copium of him being a demented enough puppet (not that they'd ever admit that to the MAGAts) that they could easily bully him into doing whatever The Squad wanted, regardless of what he did in his actual political career before.

 

[Pig Cups]

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Did he actually think that he was at an event where such a talking point would need to be quoted by him? Because a DNC holiday affair is way, way off.

If so, there are some bad Reagan-esque vibes emanating off of that. source


It’s easy to picture a situation where he addresses a crowd at a festive event, thinking that it’s still 2010 and he’s still VP. He then gives a shoutout to several long-dead politicians as if they’re in the room, before his handlers swarm. They gently place their hands on his shoulders, turn him around 180°, and quietly guide him out of the room, which has now fell eerily silent. The attendees are left to whisper amongst themselves (some reluctantly) as it begins to dawn on them the serious implications of what they just witnessed.

 

[Basil Julep]

You are massively downplaying a very serious effect, I am not sure you realize it.

The college vote is instrumental to multiple major races and locations throughout the nation. It and the black vote are the two most firmly Democrat votes in the nation. The college vote is notoriously fickle for turnout, but absolutely important to the Democrats. Depressing it is an absolutely stupid idea, and part of proof is the Virginia and NJ election where those core voters just -did not- turn out.

With all the broken promises on progressive ideas, I have to think this was super damaging. Obama is way more charming than Biden but still I remember some disillusionment with Obama's presidency, particularly on Guantanamo.

Biden is really bad, and bad in a way that can redpill some young but naive true believers.

I keep thinking about the long term effects of all the nonsense from the left that affects the youngest folks. Christ, all the nonsense with lockdowns and college.

It may be optimistic but I hope we are about to repeat the 80s with kids/society rejecting the excesses of the 70s/2010s.

 

[Gehenna]

With all the broken promises on progressive ideas, I have to think this was super damaging. Obama is way more charming than Biden but still I remember some disillusionment with Obama's presidency, particularly on Guantanamo.

Biden is really bad, and bad in a way that can redpill some young but naive true believers.

I keep thinking about the long term effects of all the nonsense from the left that affects the youngest folks. Christ, all the nonsense with lockdowns and college.

It may be optimistic but I hope we are about to repeat the 80s with kids/society rejecting the excesses of the 70s/2010s.

Biden's problem is two-fold, he is both depressing the vote and bringing -nothing- to the table beside the D by his name to energize his voters.

That's not enough.

All that D does is ensure that his opposition will mostly not gain extra votes. It does nothing to make people vote -for- him.