Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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You shouldn't be so rude, my taxes will be paying for your welfare now that black people are better at keeping their jobs than the unvaccinated.
I know you're a troll, but Id like to take this oppurtunity to point out to everyone that white people are in fact the most vaxx-compliant demographic in the US.

You know, cracking down on a majority black/POC unvaxxed populace would make a lot of people mightily uncomfortable. I think some progresssives are overdue for a "Are we the baddies?" moment.
 
now here's an interesting correlation
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imagine that
 
So, things just keep escalating and accelerating, right? When's the asteroid due?

Germany is a fucking shit show. I'm so tired and done with all of this. Unironically making me want to 41% meself. Government just restricting moar and moar and OMG unjabbos are domestic terrorists, we gotta BAN telegram! People should only converse on government approved apps! They hate ANYTHING fun, sociable, normal.
 
Looks like the Branch Covidians of the forum got tired of jerking each other off in their threads since nothing major is happening with those filthy, covid vaccine free folks. I'm sure there's a term from the field of psychology that can describe this sort of behavior.
if you weren't a reactionary tard you would see that i'm telling you idiots how to get exempt.
lol

eta: looks like your hugbox is secure, see you assholes at Christmas!
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The first real-world study looking at 78,000 omicron cases in South Africa found the risk of hospitalisation is 29 per cent lower compared with the Wuhan strain, and 23 per cent lower than delta, with vaccines holding up well.

Far fewer people have also needed intensive care from omicron, with just five per cent of cases admitted to ICU compared to 22 per cent of delta patients, the study shows.

Professor Robert Dingwall, a former government Covid adviser, from Nottingham Trent University, said it was clear from the South African data that panic was unjustified. Speaking in a personal capacity, Prof Dingwall said: “The omicron situation seems to be increasingly absurd. There is obviously a lot of snobbery about South African science and medicine but their top people are as good as any you would find in a more universally developed country.

“They clearly don’t feel that the elite panic over here is justified, even allowing for the demographic differences in vulnerability – which are probably more than cancelled by the higher vaccination rate.

"My gut feeling is that omicron is very much like the sort of flu pandemic we planned for – a lot of sickness absence from work in a short period, which will create difficulties for public services and economic activity, but not of such a severity as to be a big problem for the NHS and the funeral business.”

He offered his assessment as it emerged the Liberal Democrats leader, Labour shadow chancellor, Labour shadow transport secretary and Labour shadow education secretary have all tested positive for the virus.

Daily reported cases rose to 59,610, an increase of 12.1 per cent in the past week. However, the number of tests carried out has risen 12.4 per cent in the same period, and the percentage of people testing positive is relatively stable at around 10 per cent.

'Heartening and encouraging results'​

The data from South Africa, which was compiled by Discovery Health, its largest private health insurer, and the South Africa Medical Research Council (SAMRC), found that although there were high numbers of breakthrough infections in people who had been vaccinated, cases appeared to be less severe, and this was backed up by anecdotal evidence from doctors on the ground.

They found that effectiveness against infection dropped from 80 per cent to 33 per cent but offered 70 per cent protection against hospital admissions, and this was maintained across age groups and chronic conditions. At the time of the study there had been no deaths.

Professor Glenda Geray, of SAMRC, said: “It’s very heartening to see these results and release that vaccine effectiveness is still greater than 50 per cent. So it’s encouraging and again – the booster strategy may also mitigate the reduction in vaccine effectiveness.

“I think it’s too early for us to make that call but we can say that prior infection and vaccination are affecting the reduction of admission and serious illness. And we’re seeing a shorter duration in hospitalisation.

“People who have been vaccinated are staying in hospital just 2.4 days.”

The study also showed that the odds of reinfection were lower than during delta, suggesting that people who had a delta infection may be better protected.

The researchers said that although excess natural deaths had increased in South Africa in recent weeks, they were still significantly lower than during previous waves.

Ryan Noach, chief executive of Discovery Health, said: “You can see clearly that in omicron, the adult population has a 29 per cent lower risk of admission.

"If you look at the proportion of patients admitted to high care in ICU for severe illness, across the first three waves, the proportion of patients in high care and ICU collectively goes up to 35 per cent, whereas in this omicron period, it is only about 13 per cent.

“The data is correlating with the anecdotal feedback. At this point, there is hope the severity is lower. Excess natural deaths are significantly lower than in previous waves despite the rapid growth in infections.”

At the science and technology select committee, Kate Bingham, who led the Government’s vaccine programme, said the data from South Africa were encouraging. “It may be omicron is a more mild disease. It is clearly widely divergent from the Wuhan strain."

Omicron outbreaks in South African hotspots may be running out of steam less than three weeks after the new variant was identified, data suggests.
Cases in the province of Gauteng – which had surging infections from November – appear to be levelling off, while seven-day infections in Tshwane, one of the early epicentres, are now "relatively flat".
Although recent days have brought large spikes after a computer update led to an extra 37,875 cases being included in the daily count, experts have pointed out that the increases are far shallower once averaged by specimen date.
Louis Rossouw, of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group in South Africa, said that although the country had surpassed the peak of previous waves some areas were beginning to see a lull.
"Case growth is steeper than last week but still has slowed down versus November," he said. "In Gauteng, cases are still levelling off. Tshwane cases are relatively flat, with a slight increase in the most recent days."
Statisticians in South Africa have also noted that the case fatality rate – the percentage of people who go on to die from an infection – has fallen considerably since the arrival of omicron.
With the delta variant, around three per cent of infections – one in 33 – were resulting in death, but now that figure has slumped to 0.5 per cent – one in 200 – the lowest it has been throughout the pandemic in South Africa and 10 times lower than in September last year.

Some experts claim there has not been enough time for the death data to catch up with infections and that the case fatality rate will rise in coming weeks as infections start to translate into hospitalisations and deaths.
But Peter Streicher, a research associate at the University of Johannesburg, pointed out that the infection to death lag in South Africa is just 10 days because most cases are only picked up once they arrive in hospital, when many are already severe. It means omicron should have been visible in the death data by now.
"The case fatality rate was consistently at three per cent until late November, mostly delta deaths," he said. "If the case fatality rate remained at three per cent, we would have seen 200 deaths per day by now. We are seeing around 21 deaths per day currently, of which eight are probably still delta deaths.
"Omicron is extremely mild. The rest of the world has nothing to fear."
His modelling also suggests cases in Guateng have peaked and the total deaths caused by the wave will be around 640 – about four per cent of South Africa's delta wave, which saw 15,400 deaths.
Several doctors and researchers have also argued that omicron is likely to be a milder disease even if it is more infectious. The South African Medical Research Council found that very few hospitalised patients with the variant needed oxygen or were admitted to intensive care.

Harry Moultrie, a senior medical epidemiologist at the the National Institute for Communicable Diseases in South Africa, said it appeared cases and hospital admissions were showing signs of "decoupling", suggesting previous infections or vaccinations were still providing protection from severe disease even if they were not stopping infections.
In Britain, just 10 people have so far been admitted to hospital with omicron, and there has been one death.
At a briefing in London on Monday, Matthew Snape, professor in paediatrics and vaccinology at the University of Oxford, said the South Africa data suggested vaccines and previous infections were giving some protection against the variant.
"In areas where we know omicron has been circulating for a bit longer, such as in South Africa, they are not seeing severe disease, maybe because they actually still have enough cross-reactive antibodies," he said.
Figures show younger patients are also making up more hospital admissions than in previous waves. Prof Alastair Grant, of the University of East Anglia, believes the current hospitalisation rate for omicron is likely to be 20 per cent less than delta because it is most common in 20 to 40-year-olds who are less likely to be admitted.
Harsha Somaroo, a public health medicine specialist who is part of the team analysing data for the Gauteng Department of Health, told The Conversation Africa that between 7.4 per cent and 52.1 per cent of admissions are patients admitted for other conditions who have also tested positive for omicron.
Currently in Britain, around 27 per cent of patients in hospital with Covid have other conditions as their primary reason for admission.
 
One of my closest friends: "Are you really never getting the vaccine?"

Yeah really never. Meanwhile I overheard you and your wife talking about hoping the shot gets approved for your now 2 year old child and I can only pray the kid gets a placebo. Fuck man.
That kid will probably die but hey at least the bug people won't be having kids!
 
Dave Cullen put out a fairly short video that covers most bullet points you could present to someone you're still holding out hope of convincing to stop being nigger cattle. The video length and silly cartoon drawings might hold their attention long enough to get the point across:
If (somehow) those of you who frequent here haven't watched his content? He's been covering the wu flu for quite a long time now. Not a bad channel to keep tabs on.
 
So, things just keep escalating and accelerating, right? When's the asteroid due?

Germany is a fucking shit show. I'm so tired and done with all of this. Unironically making me want to 41% meself. Government just restricting moar and moar and OMG unjabbos are domestic terrorists, we gotta BAN telegram! People should only converse on government approved apps! They hate ANYTHING fun, sociable, normal.
Why do you want to 41% yourself when you can take your anger out on the ones that orchestrated this whole thing.
 

I know actual scientific discussion hurts people with cognitive dissonance, but here's some more.


You don't say, lol.
 
so you'd rather kill yourself than just take a shot and probably be fine?
lmao ok

Think that your grandpa managed to survive the foul allies bombing the righteous strongholds of the honourable Axis, and mustard gas.

Or commie dog eating vietcoons in a jungle that should have been napalmed just because of how many deadly snakes it had, if you be a young American.

What is a mask compared to that?
 
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