Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Hüftpriester]

Again, I know you're an uneducated right-wing newfag retard on Kiwi Farms, so I need to explain this to you, but vaccinations effect everyone. The more people vaccinated, the less it can spread. I know you have crippling autism which has given the mental age of 6, so you can't fathom doing something unselfish.

Yes, I'm a newfag. I wasn't terminally online before the pandemic, you got me bro. The shame is almost too much to bear.

What difference does it make if it continues to spread? The people who are at serious risk have been vaccinated and are safe. People like me who aren't vaccinated might get it and most of us will be asymptomatic. It's really not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Most of the country doesn't give a shit about covid anymore. Even the Atlantic had an article saying as much recently.

At least you aren't spazticly flailing around and tardraging in the covidiot thread anymore, though.

You misunderstand me Hulkster, I've never raged at any of your posts. You otoh have walls of text on every page of this thread going back weeks. I'm usually too busy at work to be such a prolific poster on these boards but I do enjoy taking part in the shitshow when I have some down time. And your posts are usually pretty entertaining, when they're not 7 paragraphs of seething.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Funny you would say that.
In islam there are many preachings about how the Jews and Christians use deceit to indoctrinate people away from the ilsamic (((truth))). Such come from the same line who are demanded by law to kill anyone who leaves the mentioned (((truth))) and harshly punishes the asking of questions.
Just think about it.

Dude triple parentheses lmao

 

[Sithis]

And food health studies never get funded by Coca Cola and McBurgers.

Ssshhhhh didn't you know that all medical professionals are held high above such corporate whoremongering and always have been? That's why Dr. Oz is the most trusted name on TV!

 

[Nobue]

I've given plenty of sources, but since they're from actual scientists and doctors you don't believe them. They aren't in a boomer FB meme, either, so you won't believe them.

You think 99% of docs and scientists are shady? Jesus you're a retard. No wonder you hate educated people so much. It's cute how you think tens of millions of people can keep a secret, the biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind, without blabbing about it. You are autistic so you have no idea how human nature works, but trust me, it doesn't work that way.


There's as much reason to believe its rays from Mars. There's as much evidence as there is of the bullshit you're saying.

Also, lol at "rushed" vaccines. It's cute how you show how uneducated you are and how you dont even know how vaccines are developed.

Except that's not the lesser of two evils. Again, I know your crippling autism has made it so you can't understand love, but people love their families and wouldn't subject them to a super duper deadly vaccine if it would kill them. Especially 10s of millions of people.

Hey, what's this?

Medicare COVID-19 Vaccine Shot Payment | CMS

On March 15, 2021, CMS updated the Medicare payment rates for administering COVID-19 vaccines. On August 12, 2021, the FDA updated the emergency use authorizations (EUAs) for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines to authorize the use of additional doses of the vaccine for...

www.cms.gov

Why would any doctor push the vaccine?

As for the lesser of two evils, it doesn't matter what you think is-- what about a person who wants to keep feeding their kids? Doctors make good money, but thet also pay out a good bit in malpractice insurance, too.

You're still using the wrong sort of logic when figuring out people's actions--it shows a lack of empathy.

 

[Nobue]

Better step your game up, H. I noticed the pole numbers slide more toward the non-vaccination side.
Your obnoxious streams of assblasting might be the sole reason for the repulsion.

Also notice how fast secret gay porn watcher poped up with his magic hat lol
I swear he's H's mom.

There are like three people who MATIbomb me every time Hulk gets angry

 

[GHTD]

Hey, what's this?

Medicare COVID-19 Vaccine Shot Payment | CMS

On March 15, 2021, CMS updated the Medicare payment rates for administering COVID-19 vaccines. On August 12, 2021, the FDA updated the emergency use authorizations (EUAs) for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines to authorize the use of additional doses of the vaccine for...

www.cms.gov

Okay, I literally fucking work in Medicare and I can say this is standard rates any insurance company charges. My insurance was billed $40 for my booster and any major insurer (Anthem, Aetna, UHG, etc) is going to be the same pretty much.

 

[Nobue]

Okay, I literally fucking work in Medicare and I can say this is standard rates any insurance company charges. My insurance was billed $40 for my booster and any major insurer (Anthem, Aetna, UHG, etc) is going to be the same pretty much.

And they want all of us to get these ones? The ones every institution of power in the world just about is trying to force in us? That's a lot of money

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes, I'm a newfag. I wasn't terminally online before the pandemic, you got me bro. The shame is almost too much to bear.

What difference does it make if it continues to spread? The people who are at serious risk have been vaccinated and are safe. People like me who aren't vaccinated might get it and most of us will be asymptomatic. It's really not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Most of the country doesn't give a shit about covid anymore. Even the Atlantic had an article saying as much recently.

The more people vaccinated, the less possible people that it could mutate in. It could mutate to more harmless strains, but it could also mutate into worse strains that would evade the vaccine. Then you retards would say "HURRR DURR THE VACCINE DOESNT WORK", and it'd be all your fault. Is it really so hard to get a little jab to help protect vulnerable people, or are you such a sociopath that considering others is a foreign concept to you?

You misunderstand me Hulkster, I've never raged at any of your posts. You otoh have walls of text on every page of this thread going back weeks. I'm usually too busy at work to be such a prolific poster on these boards but I do enjoy taking part in the shitshow when I have some down time. And your posts are usually pretty entertaining, when they're not 7 paragraphs of seething.

Sure ya didn't. That's why you were tardraging and spazzing around in the covidiot thread because we were making fun of your kind.

Hey, what's this?

Medicare COVID-19 Vaccine Shot Payment | CMS

On March 15, 2021, CMS updated the Medicare payment rates for administering COVID-19 vaccines. On August 12, 2021, the FDA updated the emergency use authorizations (EUAs) for the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines to authorize the use of additional doses of the vaccine for...

www.cms.gov

Why would any doctor push the vaccine?

As for the lesser of two evils, it doesn't matter what you think is-- what about a person who wants to keep feeding their kids? Doctors make good money, but thet also pay out a good bit in malpractice insurance, too.

You're still using the wrong sort of logic when figuring out people's actions--it shows a lack of empathy.

Again, you are showing your complete ineptness at math and logic. And you say you were a programmer? Dear god, I worry for anyone who is using software you worked on and hope to god it's something harmless like a video game because if it's something important, we are completely fucked as a society.

You see, a whopping $40 for a jab is not that much. Physicians and hospitals make about 10,000 times (not a typo, and since you're inept at math, that is $400,000) that for an ICU stay and probably about 2500 (again, I know you are inept at math, but that is $100,000) for a hospital stay for covid. Physicians make a hell of a lot more from stuff that isn't the vaccine.

Oh, and do you know why insurance companies and medicare reimburse doctors for vaccines? Again, this will probably go beyond your spaztic brain, but because vaccines work and they save medicare and insurance companies money in the long run. Again, I know you think you know more about everything than experts in their field, but actuaries that work for insurance companies are really good at math and stats (something that you claim to be good at, but have shown yourself to be completely inept in) and have calculated, pretty easily I might add, that immunizing their patients save money because, again, hospital stays for said illness are far more expensive. An insurance company, including medicare, will happily pay a doctor $40 to immunize a patient because even a clinic visit for covid would be about 25 times that in costs. At least. Now, again, I know you claim to know more than doctors and scientists about medicine, so you probably think you know more about medical insurance actuarial work than actuaries, but that's reality, son.

And they want all of us to get these ones? The ones every institution of power in the world just about is trying to force in us? That's a lot of money

The price a single ICU stay could pay for 10,000 vaccines at $40. At least. Some ICU stays end up being over a million dollars. I thought you said you were good at logic?

 

[Hüftpriester]

Is it really so hard to get a little jab to help protect vulnerable people, or are you such a sociopath that considering others is a foreign concept to you?

You are more concerned with the mild virus than my elderly grandmother...by orders of magnitude. You don't speak for vulnerable people, you massive pussy. Normal people don't worry about covid every waking hour.

Sure ya didn't. That's why you were tardraging and spazzing around in the covidiot thread because we were making fun of your kind.

You can laugh at my kind all you want, bud. I laughed at you when you appealed to the authority of a gender fluid environmental activist to justify your false claims about Tucker Carlson.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You are more concerned with the mild virus than my elderly grandmother...by orders of magnitude. You don't speak for vulnerable people, you massive pussy. Normal people don't worry about covid every waking hour.

I am concerned for my parents, who are both high risk, as well as my great aunt and uncle, who are also high risk. Just because you take after your grandma and she's also inept at risk assessment doesn't mean everyone else is.

You can laugh at my kind all you want, bud. I laughed at you when you appealed to the authority of a gender fluid environmental activist to justify your false claims about Tucker Carlson.

Lol whatever helps you sleep at night. You were tardraging because we were making fun of you anti-vaxers and we were laughing at your temper tantrum

 

[Hüftpriester]

I am concerned for my parents, who are both high risk, as well as my great aunt and uncle, who are also high risk. Just because you take after your grandma and she's also inept at risk assessment doesn't mean everyone else is.

I don't understand. Aren't they vaccinated? The studies show the vaccine prevents hospitalization and serious illness even in high risk people. I honestly wish the best for you and your loved ones but that doesn't mean you get to dictate the way other people live. There are plenty of places you can go if you want to live in a fully vaxxed community. I hear Toronto is lovely this time of year.

Lol whatever helps you sleep at night. You were tardraging because we were making fun of you anti-vaxers and we were laughing at your temper tantrum

I've been sleeping like a baby tbh. Your mom has been under a lot of stress lately and I honestly never thought an older woman could wear me out like this. She has tremendous stamina.

 

[ClownBrew]

vaccinations effect everyone. The more people vaccinated, the less it can spread.

I have heard that this is far less reliable with the newer strains. Tons of people with 2 or even 3 doses in them, are still catching it-- and it doesn't seem to be stopping outbreaks all that great anymore.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I don't understand. Aren't they vaccinated? The studies show the vaccine prevents hospitalization and serious illness even in high risk people. I honestly wish the best for you and your loved ones but that doesn't mean you get to dictate the way other people live. There are plenty of places you can go if you want to live in a fully vaxxed community. I hear Toronto is lovely this time of year.

They are vaccinated but I don't want to take a chance. I am sure you'd be concerned if your grandmother caught it, no?

 

[ClownBrew]

They are vaccinated but I don't want to take a chance. I am sure you'd be concerned if your grandmother caught it, no?

By all means, take it if you want. I did. And I was grateful to have it provided to me. But I'm realistic about what it will and won't likely do.

All we're saying is that because it isn't turning out to be all that surefire for stopping the spread, it's probably just better at making symptoms milder in the individual. People get two and even three doses of the vaccine, but end up catching and spreading it anyway. They get a milder case, but they aren't truly immune to it. Whole outbreaks are still happening at events where only the fully-vaccinated attend wearing masks and observing all the distancing rules. Clearly, the vaccine has some limitations.

Don't be one of those guys with a portrait tat of Fauci on your chest.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

By all means, take it if you want. I did. But I'm realistic about what it will and won't do for me.

All we're saying is that because it isn't turning out to be all that surefire for stopping the spread, it's probably just better at making symptoms milder in the individual. People get two and even three doses of the vaccine, but end up catching and spreading it anyway. They get a milder case, but they aren't truly immune to it. Whole outbreaks are still happening at events where only the fully-vaccinated attend wearing masks and observing all the distancing rules. Clearly, the vaccine has some limitations.

Don't be one of those guys with a portrait tat of Fauci on your chest.

It's not 100% effective at stopping the virus from spreading. I never said it was. However, it does help slow and prevent the spread and every bit does help.

Especially when the only argument against it is pretty stupid since all of the side effects from it are far more frequent from covid itself than the vaccine

 

[ClownBrew]

It's not 100% effective at stopping the virus from spreading. I never said it was. However, it does help slow and prevent the spread and every bit does help.

Especially when the only argument against it is pretty stupid since all of the side effects from it are far more frequent from covid itself than the vaccine

The main side effect that makes me nervous is the heart reaction in some male patients. It may be rare, but it should be even rarer.

That's actually what made me nope out of my booster. Still thinking it over, though.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The main side effect that makes me nervous is the heart reaction in some male patients. It may be rare, but it should be even rarer.

That's actually what made me nope out of my booster. Still thinking it over, though.

The heart reaction is 100x more common from covid itself and is still insanely rare from vaccines. Like something around 4-10 per 1 million vaccines

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Dude, just get the jab, reduce your already low chance of dying to 0 and don't spread it to your elderly relatives. If you aren't a total sociopath, that's what you would do.

I maybe would have taken the shot a year or two ago.
Then the global government mandated apartheid kicked in and by sheer principle I'm not getting that shit.
Also what % of who the fuck knows what do I get for my 0.01% less chance of dying form a 0.02% death virus?
And what's more sociopathic? Forcing people to get shot on the sheer word of a corporation or giving your old folks a bad case of the flu?

 

[Xiamara the Mare]

I had two Astrazenica shots as main vaxx, last Sunday I had a Pfizer booster. I do say that I have medical issues and get in contact with people with zero immune system issues. Everyone should either take them or leave it, without segregation in society. I still wonder though, why the EU did not allow AZ vaccine to be jabbed in young people but the UK had no issues.

 

[Nobue]

The more people vaccinated, the less possible people that it could mutate in. It could mutate to more harmless strains, but it could also mutate into worse strains that would evade the vaccine. Then you retards would say "HURRR DURR THE VACCINE DOESNT WORK", and it'd be all your fault. Is it really so hard to get a little jab to help protect vulnerable people, or are you such a sociopath that considering others is a foreign concept to you?

Sure ya didn't. That's why you were tardraging and spazzing around in the covidiot thread because we were making fun of your kind.


Again, you are showing your complete ineptness at math and logic. And you say you were a programmer? Dear god, I worry for anyone who is using software you worked on and hope to god it's something harmless like a video game because if it's something important, we are completely fucked as a society.

You see, a whopping $40 for a jab is not that much. Physicians and hospitals make about 10,000 times (not a typo, and since you're inept at math, that is $400,000) that for an ICU stay and probably about 2500 (again, I know you are inept at math, but that is $100,000) for a hospital stay for covid. Physicians make a hell of a lot more from stuff that isn't the vaccine.

Oh, and do you know why insurance companies and medicare reimburse doctors for vaccines? Again, this will probably go beyond your spaztic brain, but because vaccines work and they save medicare and insurance companies money in the long run. Again, I know you think you know more about everything than experts in their field, but actuaries that work for insurance companies are really good at math and stats (something that you claim to be good at, but have shown yourself to be completely inept in) and have calculated, pretty easily I might add, that immunizing their patients save money because, again, hospital stays for said illness are far more expensive. An insurance company, including medicare, will happily pay a doctor $40 to immunize a patient because even a clinic visit for covid would be about 25 times that in costs. At least. Now, again, I know you claim to know more than doctors and scientists about medicine, so you probably think you know more about medical insurance actuarial work than actuaries, but that's reality, son.


The price a single ICU stay could pay for 10,000 vaccines at $40. At least. Some ICU stays end up being over a million dollars. I thought you said you were good at logic?

If the vaccines were actually stopping mutations in this case, the global hotspots wouldn't be the most heavily vaccinated. As for it mutating, it's unlikely to become more deadly, even if the vaccines stop working against it. That's how these things work. Even an ignorant person like myself understands that.

People aren't recommended every vaccine, but 99% of doctors are pushing everybody to get one in this case? They're still being incentivized, and if your claims are right, they're doing enough for it to add up. We're talking about the group that did this sort of thing and created the opioid crisis, and who are some of the biggest tax cheats, so them pulling this isn't unthinkable.

Remember how COVID cases skyrocketed once the Feds started paying for them?

Considering hospitalizations are surging...in the most vaccinated areas, those actuaries made the wrong call here.