Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Tovarisz]

If she's trying to go after people who mutilate children for ideological reasons, she's gonna be accused of being antisemitic.

Yeah I think her quest is going to fail, I think she thinks she can do what conservatives think they can do and reverse time to that point where it was people with her current views controlling the narrative so not quite as far but it's the same shit.

Today going against mutilation is what you say when done to boys, islamophobic when done to girls and transphobic in general. She's going to end up dissappointed at how much "progress" her more zealous progressive collegues have made.

The right response to this entire shit show is to grab popcorn and laugh. It's really the point of shows like this. You can't have circus with freaks anymore unless you use the "but we are actually empowering the freaks not laughing at them" loophole. It works because woketards believe that narrative while everyone else knows they're watching a freakshow, laughing at it and mocking it.

Meanwhile exulansic is in that "they are human too" phase of looking at the freakshow trying to liberate them, probably because she barely dodged being one, I'd like to know how many people watch her videos to feel sorry for the troons and look for a way to fight in that little leftist culture civil war and not to gawk at the freaks with TERF commentary and think "Yep, these people are all retarded freaks"

Edit: Typos etc.

 

[DoorPost101]

Noah taking her shirt off at the kickball game is visceral cringe. Just like one of the boys, because that's what being a man is! Playing sports without a shirt. Women can never ever take their shirt off and go topless or wear a sportsbra and nothing else, that's the law!
She has a triumphant look on her face too, the dumb fuck.

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Sander: 'I haven't cried for a year'
Noah: Has an ugly cry with voie breaking mid-staged-conversation and needs a hug from Sander to feel better.
'We are both men!' fucking kek.

I don't get how going without a shirt is supposed to be this grand, liberating thing. It just seems so petty, but I see this a lot with FTM. Seems to be the FTM version of "skirt go spinny."

 

[EnemyStand]

I don't get how going without a shirt is supposed to be this grand, liberating thing. It just seems so petty, but I see this a lot with FTM. Seems to be the FTM version of "skirt go spinny."

I mean, it basically is. Girls have to keep their breasts hidden because lack of support makes them hurt and causes back pain EBIL MEN SEXUALISE THEM AND WANT US TO BE ASHAMED THEIR PEEPEES ARE HARD! Meanwhile, even the fattest of fucks with the most luscious of manboobs can walk around with no shirt and no one tells them they're wrong! I'm a dude, bro! I drink beer and burp and fart and rip my shirt off to play kickball, bro! But don't bust on me or neg me like you do with your guy friends because that's not nice...uwu.

It's kind of sad, because Noah could've lived a decent life as a dyke and just done that, but no, she had to chop herself up to the point that now lesbians don't want her.

 

[Barbarella]

Exulansic is now exploring options for legal action against Jazz's butchers and handlers. She's looking into laws against female genital mutilation specifically. This could get interesting.

On one of the SRS threads somebody posted a podcast. It consisted of five or six mothers of trans kids, all but one were under 18. All were terrified that their kids were going to trans themselves as soon as they hit 18. Several tried therapy for the kids, but therapists all believe this is normal now so they can’t find help. Most moms said their kid was more an introvert type and it was social contagion that got them. They said all their kids were sensitive artist types.

One of the moms is a lawyer and she mentioned Gallagher specifically-she’s collecting information on her and thinks it’s possible she’s broken legal and ethics rules and is planning to go after her.

None of the moms would give their names, because they felt their kids would disown them and break all ties if they knew what they were doing. They were terrified-it was sad. They also believe it’s a cult and what do cults do? Isolate. So they are hanging to to these kids with a thread.

So I hope that lady contacts exulansic, or vice versa. I would hate for real work to be undone.

The podcast was eye opening to me. As a mother of boys myself, you tend to think that those mothers must be like Jeannette or Fabulous kid and just go along with it. But no, in fact, they see it for what it is but keep ties with their kids that we don’t respect, because once they are broken, they kids go deep into the cult. They are pretty sure most anybody’s kid can get caught up in it.

And the kids stories about family rejecting them isn’t always true. Kayley gets mad mom because she won’t call her he and goes to sleep on Tif’s couch. Or, has tantrums, causes rifts like mentally ill people do, and then they lose their kid to Aiden. Moms even deny that a girl wasn’t girly-they liked pink and princesses and everything else-boys like cars and weapons, but they suddenly decided to be the other sex. It leaves these moms reeling.

There are organizations out there for these parents. SOGD? I think they use-sudden onset gender dysphoria.

Anyway, off-topic for Jazz but still interesting and exulansic should look into these groups before she just goes wild. They are looking for somebody who doesn’t have a kid to lose involved and with her platform she could be perfect. But she also tends to think she knows more than she does and likes to throw bombs, so she should get these families perspectives.

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Back on topic for Jazz-he reacts to weight gain like a man would. Have you ever seen a woman (other than Chantel) slapping her belly and giving it nicknames? It’s just not something most women would do, and showing it, even if a producer says so—is just a no. Real women would feel shame in gaining a hundred pounds, despite what you see in the deathfat forums. He won’t stop because his mother flat out said she doesn’t like the way he looks, so I suspect Jazz has figured out a way to get his mother to let him be.

 

[Medicinal Molduga]

While the relationship is up to Ari and Jazz, I would say that it is Jeanette's fault it got like this in the first place. Had Jazz been left alone they could still fight, but what she's done has made it so that Jazz can barely keep close to anyone anymore.

Yes, this process is called triangulation and it happens when the parents aren't parenting properly and involve the children in dynamics that they shouldn't be in. Basically, when the parents have unresolved personal issues and use their kids as extensions of themselves and as emotional crutches, or they emotionally neglect other kids expecting adult responsibilities from them. Which is exactly what Jeannette has done with Jazz in terms of hyperfocus, and what Jeanette+Greg have done to the other kids (severe lack of attention in comparison).

In a scenario like this one, the narcissist (Jeannette) harms the child they hyperfocus on ('golden child') by treating him as an extension of herself or himself, and the other kids are left in second or third place, or even scapegoated. Ari as a young kid very probably had to learn to mother herself because the parental attention was shifted solely towards Jazz, and to some extent has probably mothered her siblings, too, because she's the eldest (and a girl to boot, big sisters are expected to take care of the younger ones; this expectation is also why I don't think Ari will completely break from her shit family, she feels responsible towards them) . This self-mothering (or self-parenting) is why Ari is responsible, self-reliant and cannot understand or empathize with Jazz's acquired helplessness (which is not of his own doing and not something he can escape from so easily). From her point of view, Jazz had everything handed to him and still fucked up. So of course she resents him. Triangulation from the parents is a family dynamic that destroys bonds between siblings, because being in unequal standing regarding the adults, they cannot relate to one another as equals nor feel solidarity toward one another (which is the ideal scenario).

Triangulation doesn't always happen in toxic families (sometimes the kids band together and survive thanks to it), but it's the most usual outcome. When you meet siblings that get along really badly with one another? Look for bad or dysfunctional parental dynamics, and you will probably find them.

And on the other hand, as has been said, Jazz probably envies his self-assured, fairly successful sister, ignoring that she probably developed those life skills early on in her life precisely because she was lacking the parental attention and care she needed. So her skills come from a place of pain.

Edited for spelling.

 

[What about Bob]

Her latest episodes on Jazz are really good. She really explores the abuse dynamics in that family, and points out that this is in front of the cameras. What goes on when the cameras stop rolling?

And the way TLC deliberately facilitate ways to humiliate him.

Exulansic is now exploring options for legal action against Jazz's butchers and handlers. She's looking into laws against female genital mutilation specifically. This could get interesting.

Yeah she's posted v recent one reading from Florida statutes about genital mutilation. Basically it's - no shit - massively illegal what they have done to him and everyone involved should be prosecuted / serve jail time

 

[Sonya-chan]

“Perks of dating a trans man”
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Kek, "understands ur period" women don't care about men understanding period, all they ask is empathy and being there when they feel not good because of it, men are not stupid if they see their partner not feeling well they will just stay with them as much as they can, a lot of men buy tampons on supermarket, this isn't "new" or "awkward", it's normal among heterosexual couple.
"no poking in the middle of night" I'm not going to comment this, just leave this note:Straight Women like penises.
"no pregnancy scares", to quote what has been said:

Yeah that tends to happen when two chicks date each other kiddo.

And there are things called birth control & condoms, straight people can have healthy sex life without babies, no need to scissor FTM.

 

[OJ Simpson]

I can only imagine how women feel when a man decides to troon out and thinks they have it all figured out what being a woman means and entails. As a dude, as I view it, this Noah lesbian and other idiots like her are just disrespectful little dipshits with severe mental problems. They have absolutely no concept of what being a man is and they always end up fucking doing the dude-bro thing like every point of reference for them is men who grew up in California in the 90's listening to Pearl Jam. With their dyke get up and undercut.

 

[NoReturn]

How much of the plot does Jazz realize is scripted? Does he think Sdddhdhdh genuinely wants him as an intern? A part of me thinks that Jazz thinks it's all real, and that Noah and the other new, more photogenic cast members are all just suddenly around because they like him.

The whole diet thing is going to fail bad (and for the recent pics we've seen of Jazz, I think I'm not wrong) because the real problem isn't solved. Look at how he's lurking the kitchen like a kid while the others are cooking and takes his own portion apart to add butter to it like he really doesn't care he's meant to change habits. He could have taken an apple instead, but he made sure his plate wouldn't have any restriction he's supposed to have. Also look how nobody did anything when he started eating. Honestly, if that had been my child, I would have changed the plate for one without butter and if he didn't like it, he doesn't get to eat.

Spoiler: Food sperg

This family is food fucked. Naked noodles isn't real food. It's baby food, that's why Jazz thinks it needs butter.
Honestly, if you left it up to me, I'd let him eat the pasta with butter, but I'd force him to have it cooked with herbs/spices/etc. something to approximate the "engagement" Jazz is getting from the highly palatable foods upon which Jazz is binging.
Also, that dietician's "meal guide" is bullshit. I have beef with a lot of eating disorder treatment, but seeing it again like this bothered by butt.

As for Ari and Jazz's fight, narcissist parents pit siblings against each other.

Addicts are good at manipulating people, and Jazz IS an addict, not only to food but to attention. He's grown up being told that if he doesn't feel comfortable with himself all the time, he's gonna end up killing himself. And Jeannette also thinks this, that's why she lets him do whatever he wants and as long as he's alive, it's all fine.

Underrated comments.
This is way more true than most people realize. In my experience though, there is an exception: It's when one or both parents is incompetent. If the parent is obviously broken or "bad" in a way that society can see (e.g. an alcoholic, addict, etc.) The children with "circle the horses" and bond with one another against the parent because they know on some level that society has their back. It won't be a normal sibling relationship, or even necessarily a healthy one, but there's a reason why some of the poor children of narcs that I saw had much better relationships with their siblings than the middle class ones.
I think Jeanette knows this, which is why she's so insistent about keeping up appearances. She's a "good mom" her trans child is alive and going to Harvard. Jeanette isn't a drug addict, or fat, she knows because she weighs herself every time she takes a shit.

Pretty ironic that trying to hide your boobs will just make them bigger and angrier.

Not just the boobs, but it fucks with your rib cage, soft and connective tissue, and even your lymphatic system.

Why does Noah/Jessica have tape on his nipples for all the stills from the show? Because they are female nipples? But wait I thought Trans were the sex they identify as?

Chafing but also to prevent it from reopening.
Also, on the eating disorder thing, it's possible Noah is having issues with wound healing, so that's probably a factor as well.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

this expectation is also why I don't think Ari will completely break from her shit family, she feels responsible towards them) .

I could have misread it, but I think they said Ari was in charge of Jazzs food.

 

[NoReturn]

I could have misread it, but I think they said Ari was in charge of Jazzs food.

"Hello eldest sister. You are third parent. You have always been third parent. You are now responsible for feeding youngest child who is also an adult. This way youngest child gets mad at you and not us, the actual parents. Isn't to fun to have responsibility?"

 

[AMHOLIO]

Just get him the fuck away from Jeanette.

And as you said, this is the exact reason he won't get better. Even if tlc went super bankrupt and stopped filming, Jeanette would be horrified at letting her child leave and insist he wouldn't get better unless his mom was there to save him.

So Jazz is hosed.

I remember when Sanders was doing his weird tour of the house video which just revealed that the Jennings are disgusting hoarders, he barges into Ari's room and Jazz is on her bed and they're hanging out. I'm sure she has to resent him on some level, but I don't think the kitchen scene is their default state with each other.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ari is just very frustrated at the moment. Someone has to give the guy a little honesty unlike the rest of them and TLC. I wouldn't be surprised if she was offloading general steam at the situation too, being the only one committed.

The only one who seems to take it seriously is his sister. The rest of them (although she's included too) are trained to always support Jazz and never be negative around him.

She's dating people so it means she's interacted with normal people, and it's hard to not get frustrated after comparing your family to them. She also has the role of Caretaker, a super tiring role to play in any family, and she has been trying to properly take care of Jazz unlike some attention whore narc who can and will make things work. Ari might just have genuine frustration at the situation and end up giving more tough love, Jazz might not realize it because he has child brain.

I actually think that he might not be ignoring the doctors on purpose. He might actually not have the skills or ability to curb his eating. I know he's an adult but in a lot of clips he just seems like a scared child. It's strange.
You'd think that a successful "weight loss journey" would make for high TV ratings and lucrative sponsorships from weight loss and healthy food companies. I feel like if he had the ability to do a diet, he would be doing it already. And if he loved attention, he would be posting constantly about dieting and green shakes and stuff, trying to get attention and praise and likes for it.
Instead he's banging on his belly like bongos.

From what I've seen of this thread it genuinely scares me that his emotional maturity is still that of a pre-pubescent boy. I think even if Jeanette drops dead today Jazz would be fucking screwed since he's legitimately stunted. I don't know how well he could tale care of himself even if he got help, he seems unable to do much.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

From what I've seen of this thread it genuinely scares me that his emotional maturity is still that of a pre-pubescent boy.

That's a feature, not a bug. His puberty was prevented to stop male development and this includes maturation. They thought he would somehow get the female version by pumping him full of estrogen but that's impossible because he is male.

Jeanette and Greg gave him drugs that made him r.etarded (for adult standards). In my opinion it's highly unlikely that he will get better because he missed a crucial part of development which can't be done again.

 

[NerdShamer]

Why does Noah/Jessica have tape on his nipples for all the stills from the show? Because they are female nipples? But wait I thought Trans were the sex they identify as?

A mastectomy removes nearly all of the glands and the area behind the nipples (or just take them completely). What's left usually looks like someone slashed them with an machete.

 

[Rabidcolombian]

Something that’s been left out of this discussion that needs to be addressed more specifically - family members are usually NOT good personal trainers.

When the three of them circled around Jazz to talk about his weight and starred at him like it was some sort of intervention, Jazz can’t possibly take it seriously because it’s coming from his siblings. When Ari tells him to put the fork down, it’s not a nutritionist saying it, it’s his sister. It has less to do with Jazz being a selfish brat and more to do with these three dumbass idiots acting like they know how to help him loss weight like a professional could.

Not only do they not know how to do it, but they are terrible at it. The types of things they make Jazz do (Rollerblading, tennis, etc) are NOT common activities someone 200+ pounds is made to do when put on a exercise regime by a professional. Just falling over with that weight can be extremely dangerous.

So of course Jazz doesn’t take any of this seriously - how can he with those three begin his professional trainers? I understand it may not be too different if Jazz DID have an actual expert to help him lose weight, but your trainers being your siblings who obviously hold resentment towards you? Not a good combination.
It easily puts them in a position to fuck with Jazz under the guise of “weight loss” whenever they want. You don’t think they’re not going to ever take advantage of it? You don’t think Jazz doesn’t see this?

Too many people seem to sympathize with Ari and how frustrating Jazz is being but when these three douchebags play volleyball talking about how fat Jazz is and how he needs to be apart of their “vision square” its cringe.

Imagine you’re on the couch eating Cheetos and watching TV while out of the blue all your siblings sit around you and say, “We need to talk - we noticed you’re fat. We made a plan for you. It’s called a Vision Square. We’ll be your personal trainers now. Here’s your schedule for next week.” Tell me what other face you’d make other than this

No wonder this was the moment Jazz cracked and said he lived for others, never himself. Just let the damn man eat his freaking Cheetos in peace.

 

[Cabbage Farmer]

And as you said, this is the exact reason he won't get better. Even if tlc went super bankrupt and stopped filming, Jeanette would be horrified at letting her child leave and insist he wouldn't get better unless his mom was there to save him.

So Jazz is hosed.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ari is just very frustrated at the moment. Someone has to give the guy a little honesty unlike the rest of them and TLC. I wouldn't be surprised if she was offloading general steam at the situation too, being the only one committed.


She's dating people so it means she's interacted with normal people, and it's hard to not get frustrated after comparing your family to them. She also has the role of Caretaker, a super tiring role to play in any family, and she has been trying to properly take care of Jazz unlike some attention whore narc who can and will make things work. Ari might just have genuine frustration at the situation and end up giving more tough love, Jazz might not realize it because he has child brain.


From what I've seen of this thread it genuinely scares me that his emotional maturity is still that of a pre-pubescent boy. I think even if Jeanette drops dead today Jazz would be fucking screwed since he's legitimately stunted. I don't know how well he could tale care of himself even if he got help, he seems unable to do much.

At this rate Jazz is going to still be living at the Jennings compound when she's 30

 

[PrincessHomura]

At this rate Jazz is going to still be living at the Jennings compound when she's 30

You think this poor lad is going to live to see 30?

 

[NoReturn]

Something that’s been left out of this discussion that needs to be addressed more specifically - family members are usually NOT good personal trainers.

When the three of them circled around Jazz to talk about his weight and starred at him like it was some sort of intervention, Jazz can’t possibly take it seriously because it’s coming from his siblings. When Ari tells him to put the fork down, it’s not a nutritionist saying it, it’s his sister. It has less to do with Jazz being a selfish brat and more to do with these three dumbass idiots acting like they know how to help him loss weight like a professional could.

Not only do they not know how to do it, but they are terrible at it. The types of things they make Jazz do (Rollerblading, tennis, etc) are NOT common activities someone 200+ pounds is made to do when put on a exercise regime by a professional. Just falling over with that weight can be extremely dangerous.

So of course Jazz doesn’t take any of this seriously - how can he with those three begin his professional trainers? I understand it may not be too different if Jazz DID have an actual expert to help him lose weight, but your trainers being your siblings who obviously hold resentment towards you? Not a good combination.
It easily puts them in a position to fuck with Jazz under the guise of “weight loss” whenever they want. You don’t think they’re not going to ever take advantage of it? You don’t think Jazz doesn’t see this?

Too many people seem to sympathize with Ari and how frustrating Jazz is being but when these three douchebags play volleyball talking about how fat Jazz is and how he needs to be apart of their “vision square” its cringe.

Imagine you’re on the couch eating Cheetos and watching TV while out of the blue all your siblings sit around you and say, “We need to talk - we noticed you’re fat. We made a plan for you. It’s called a Vision Square. We’ll be your personal trainers now. Here’s your schedule for next week.” Tell me what other face you’d make other than this

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No wonder this was the moment Jazz cracked and said he lived for others, never himself. Just let the damn man eat his freaking Cheetos in peace.

 

[Marvin]

The difference is that your friend was allowed to go through puberty. The flush of estrogen / testosterone triggered by puberty are central to brain development in the areas of emotional regulation in particular, and also in terms of long term decision making and understanding the long term future consequences of immediate actions in the present. All traits that adults have, but children (and I dare say Jazz) do not.

You mention that your friends health hasn’t been the greatest. You don’t elaborate, but when Lupron was used for a while to treat endometriosis, and when it was used more frequently for precocious puberty, some of the long term health problems were found to include:
Bones not fusing properly
Damage to connective tissue
Migraine and chronic pain
Emotional dysregulation
Cardio / pulmonary issues
Chronic inflammation
Much longer term, suspected greater vulnerability to stroke and cancer

Now imagine being a troon kid and having your natural bodily and brain growth chemically stunted, and then being flushed full of dangerous levels of opposite sex hormones.

It’s a double whammy for major , life shortening health problems and doctors did it to Jazz and are doing it to other kids.

Late, I know but:

The argument though is why couldn't the artificial "puberty" they rigged up with prescribed hormones fill in the same place for Jazz' natural puberty.

I think the artifical hormones maybe could help promote the brain development a real girl would experience, but probably not all of it. There's probably big influences on brain development that aren't caused by the big hormone, estrogen or testosterone, but proceed alongside the hormonal development in parallel with it. That's why "puberty blocker" is such a shit euphemism. They're more accurately called something like hormone blockers, because we don't know all of the causes of puberty; there might be non-hormonal influences on puberty that still proceed and everything gets out of sync and fucked up if all we do is suppress the hormones.

Even if those non-hormonal influences are as simple/non-biological as social interaction, that's a huge part of growing up that's being fucked with. It's patently ridiculous to think we can pause puberty.

Personally, I wouldn't really blame gays for the new age of weird sexual fetishes. Gays and shit have always been around. Societal attitudes towards same-sex relationships have varied over time and place.

Generally agree, although they are responsible for not telling the troons as a group to fuck off. Any gays that use the LGBT (to say nothing of the WTFBBQ+) are part of the problem.

I feel like the gay community suffers pretty badly from geek social fallacies.

 

[Gilkore]

What is up with her tits in that picture?

Why do they look like implants?

There's no space between them.

Like I am not a licensed Titologist, but all the ones I have seen are more like (o ) ( o) but hers are like (o)(o)

I think they are (or were) indeed implants, and that she was suffering symmastia or "uniboob." She was very feminine before. This is not a butch dyke who trooned out. I think it's a woman who wants attention and hates herself, and at one point that manifested in getting bigger tits installed. She surrounds herself with typical blonde LA looking women and dates one (oh, and one who works in plastic surgery btw). She makes shitty porn/lewds and is just as Instagram/selfie-centric as the basic bitch blondes she's hanging around.

Binding gives you saggy boobs or angry boobs, not a perky uniboob. She also seems to still be getting "work" done on her face. How ridiculous.