Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Nobue]

You wouldn't even believe the outside people if they did look at it because you, yourself, have said 99% of docs and scientists are liars and sociopaths who would willingly kill their own families to keep the conspiracy going. So why the hell would you even want them to look at it when you'd refuse to believe it anyway? Or do you want uneducated spazes like yourself, who wouldn't know what they're looking at anyway, to look at it?

Starving people in a poor country without welfare is a lot different than a millionaire doctor in the USA, you fucking retard. I know you're an uneducated right-wing spaz so you want welfare to be gone, but people who lose their jobs don't generally starve here. They could get other jobs and they probably wouldn't even lose their job if they did speak up.

Why would a whistleblower be welcome anywhere? That's just not how the world works.

People do what they think will be the least awful thing in any situation, even if your Disneyfied view of the world doesn't let you understand it. You completely failed to understand the basic point of what I was saying. You need everything to be simple black and white.

Besides, look at the Milgram experiment--most people just do what they're told, no matter how they feel. Life isn't a Disney movie, Hulkster

 

[Nobue]

Native german speaker here with close ties to Germany.
This is complete nonsense, which started because Jordan Peterson made a snide comment invoking the Nuremberg code when he retweeted a statement from his lawyer that was critical about EU president Van der Leyens stance on "discussing/debating a consolidation of EU wide (mandatory) vaccine policy". An English speaking article then ran a story using Peterson's comment, implying he was stating that Van der Leyen is considering abolishing the Nuremberg code. This became the basis of subsequent articles in various English speaking "news" (very loose use of the term) websites, particularly gateway pundit.
No one in Germany is talking about this and no German newspaper is running anything about it - it's a fabrication solely relegated to the Anglosphere.

So, their policy is to coerce people into taking it. How is that meaningfully different?

 

[Bloitzhole]

So, their policy is to coerce people into taking it. How is that meaningfully different?

No lol. The statement was solely "The EU should probably discuss consolidating their, possibly mandatory, vaccine policy - we need to talk about this" because right now, every country in the trade union is doing its own thing. The reference to mandatory was made because the statement was made in the context of Austria adopting a mandatory vaccine law, which is a pretty big step to take solo when your national laws have to abide by EU laws (same as, I assume, federal law usually overriding state's law in the US). It doesn't even have anything to do with Germany specifically, Van der Leyen just happens to be a German national and its about discussing a unified approach to how vaccines are handled on the EU level (because any citizen can cross any border freely and live wherever) and not about Germany or specifically mandating them.

If Biden were to state "We should talk about federal gun laws having a cohesive framework that all states can agree to and abide by" you wouldn't run a headline that says "Delaware to scrap second amendment"

 

[Nobue]

No lol. The statement was solely "The EU should probably discuss consolidating their, possibly mandatory, vaccine policy - we need to talk about this" because right now, every country in the trade union is doing its own thing. The reference to mandatory was made because the statement was made in the context of Austria adopting a mandatory vaccine law, which is a pretty big step to take solo when your national laws have to abide by EU laws (same as, I assume, federal law usually overriding state's law in the US). It doesn't even have anything to do with Germany specifically, Van der Leyen just happens to be a German national and its about discussing a unified approach to how vaccines are handled on the EU level (because any citizen can cross any border freely and live wherever) and not about Germany or specifically mandating them.

If Biden were to state "We should talk about federal gun laws having a cohesive framework that all states can agree to and abide by" you wouldn't run a headline that says "Delaware to scrap second amendment"

“I think it is understandable and appropriate to lead this discussion right now, how we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union,” she said a couple minutes later in the press conference. “This needs discussion, this needs a common approach, but it is a discussion that I think has to be led.”

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Why would a whistleblower be welcome anywhere? That's just not how the world works.

It sure is. He'd be a hero if he could prove his claims. And again, there's millionaire doctors and scientists out there who are set financially. I see you conveniently ignore this and instead say they're all sociopaths. It's also cute how you want outside scientists to review stuff, even though you wouldn't believe them if they did.

People do what they think will be the least awful thing in any situation, even if your Disneyfied view of the world doesn't let you understand it. You completely failed to understand the basic point of what I was saying. You need everything to be simple black and white.

Correct, and the least awful thing is your family not dying to the super duper deadly vaccines. Again, I know your brain is severely diseased from the extreme autism afflicting it so you don't feel human emotions, but people put their family's well-being ahead of anything.

Besides, look at the Milgram experiment--most people just do what they're told, no matter how they feel. Life isn't a Disney movie, Hulkster

You think life is like an episode of NCIS or a superhero movie. It ain't, despite what your uneducated spaztic brain thinks.

 

[Bloitzhole]

“I think it is understandable and appropriate to lead this discussion right now, how we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union,” she said a couple minutes later in the press conference. “This needs discussion, this needs a common approach, but it is a discussion that I think has to be led.”

And how is this "Germany wants to abolish the Nuremberg code and make Vaccines mandatory", which is where we started and then apparently shifted that to coercion? I don't quite follow.
Note that "to lead a discussion" from German (Eine Diskussion führen) means to "have a debate" not fx to "spearhead" - its a very common phrase for Germans and dutch (en discussie voeren) people whose second/third language is English to use, translating the phrase directly.

 

[Nobue]

It sure is. He'd be a hero if he could prove his claims. And again, there's millionaire doctors and scientists out there who are set financially. I see you conveniently ignore this and instead say they're all sociopaths. It's also cute how you want outside scientists to review stuff, even though you wouldn't believe them if they did.

Correct, and the least awful thing is your family not dying to the super duper deadly vaccines. Again, I know your brain is severely diseased from the extreme autism afflicting it so you don't feel human emotions, but people put their family's well-being ahead of anything.

You think life is like an episode of NCIS or a superhero movie. It ain't, despite what your uneducated spaztic brain thinks.

How is it like a TV show that the average person does what they're told? TV shows the opposite.

Read what I wrote again. I explained why I'm skeptical of pro-COVID-vaccine stuff at this point, and explained how this just reinforces that. It's a simple concept.

I've given you lists of whistleblowers and how their lives were ruined. Are you really so childish you think that's how the world works?

Now it's only some who are millionaires? Why don't they just retire early and live off their savings? Or--there are a multitude of reasons like I just listed off a couple posts ago.

Okay--what if every option could kill or injure your family, but one's more immediate and certain than the other? Do they magically just do neither through the power of wishes?

 

[Nobue]

And how is this "Germany wants to abolish the Nuremberg code and make Vaccines mandatory", which is where we started and then apparently shifted that to coercion? I don't quite follow.
Note that "to lead a discussion" from German (Eine Diskussion führen) means to "have a debate" not fx to "spearhead" - its a very common phrase for Germans and dutch (en discussie voeren) people whose second/third language is English to use, translating the phrase directly.

They're discussing mandato

And how is this "Germany wants to abolish the Nuremberg code and make Vaccines mandatory", which is where we started and then apparently shifted that to coercion? I don't quite follow.
Note that "to lead a discussion" from German (Eine Diskussion führen) means to "have a debate" not fx to "spearhead" - its a very common phrase for Germans and dutch (en discussie voeren) people whose second/third language is English to use, translating the phrase directly.

They want to discuss mandatory experimental vaccines. They want to deny decades of norms for this product, and presumably future ones.

 

[Product Placement]

@Nobue by double posting with both posts less than three minutes apart rather than editing your original message you are coming across as an even bigger tard than you need to be.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How is it like a TV show that the average person does what they're told? TV shows the opposite.

Read what I wrote again. I explained why I'm skeptical of pro-COVID-vaccine stuff at this point, and explained how this just reinforces that. It's a simple concept.

I've given you lists of whistleblowers and how their lives were ruined. Are you really so childish you think that's how the world works?

Now it's only some who are millionaires? Why don't they just retire early and live off their savings? Or--there are a multitude of reasons like I just listed off a couple posts ago.

Okay--what if every option could kill or injure your family, but one's more immediate and certain than the other? Do they magically just do neither through the power of wishes?

Because you legitimately think 99% of docs and scientists are willing to kill their own families and themselves all to push the conspiracy of BIG PHARMA. I know you're a sheltered autist, but real life isn't like that. Oh, and none of these docs or scientists are coming forward and you have zero proof other than you hate scientists and doctors because you're an uneducated spaz who claims to know more than them.

And yes, you are a complete spaz that doesn't live in the real world if you think some doctors and scientists aren't millionaires who are already set for life. They could also just get other jobs.

Again, I realize you have crippling autism, which has rotted your brain, but people with human emotions value their family over everything. If they really were terrified of this vaccine and thought it was dangerous, they would not get it for their families or themselves. These people know a lot more about it than you do, despite what you say. They have deemed it's safe and the very small risk of an adverse effect is worth it. And again, despite what you claim, they know a lot more about this than you and unlike you, most of them aren't emotionless sociopaths. Again, I know you have autism and thus your brain is rotted, but real life isn't like a conspiracy novel despite what Tucker Carlson tells you

 

[Nobue]

Because you legitimately think 99% of docs and scientists are willing to kill their own families and themselves all to push the conspiracy of BIG PHARMA. I know you're a sheltered autist, but real life isn't like that. Oh, and none of these docs or scientists are coming forward and you have zero proof other than you hate scientists and doctors because you're an uneducated spaz who claims to know more than them.

And yes, you are a complete spaz that doesn't live in the real world if you think some doctors and scientists aren't millionaires who are already set for life. They could also just get other jobs.

Again, I realize you have crippling autism, which has rotted your brain, but people with human emotions value their family over everything. If they really were terrified of this vaccine and thought it was dangerous, they would not get it for their families or themselves. These people know a lot more about it than you do, despite what you say. They have deemed it's safe and the very small risk of an adverse effect is worth it. And again, despite what you claim, they know a lot more about this than you and unlike you, most of them aren't emotionless sociopaths. Again, I know you have autism and thus your brain is rotted, but real life isn't like a conspiracy novel despite what Tucker Carlson tells you

Jesus. You just say the same things over and over, all while you fail to understand how people work, even with common examples.

 

[Product Placement]

Jesus. You just say the same things over and over, all while you fail to understand how people work, even with common examples.

Do you also lack self-awareness because you are doing the same thing. I'm just wondering which of you two will get bored first.

 

[Nobue]

Do you also lack self-awareness because you are doing the same thing. I'm just wondering which of you two will get bored first.

I've made many different arguments, and come at things from different angles. Screeching Alex Jones 99% corrupt! instead of arguing isn't the same thing.

 

[Product Placement]

I've made many different arguments, and come at things from different angles. Screeching Alex Jones 99% corrupt! instead of arguing isn't the same thing.

Thanks for telling me you lack any self-awareness.

 

[Porker LeVance]

Pfizer two pump, thinking about doing the boost. They compliment my tattoo when I get the shot so I’m mainly doing it for self esteem.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Jesus. You just say the same things over and over, all while you fail to understand how people work, even with common examples.

Lol coming from you that's ironic, Mr. "99% of scientists and docs are willing to kill their own families to make BIG PHARMA richer"

You are seriously delusional and need to go outside more because it's obvious you live in your own autistic bubble and spend too much time on 4chan

 

[Nobue]

Lol coming from you that's ironic, Mr. "99% of scientists and docs are willing to kill their own families to make BIG PHARMA richer"

You are seriously delusional and need to go outside more because it's obvious you live in your own autistic bubble and spend too much time on 4chan

More of the same. Dude, I've come at this from multiple angles. You just spout the same exact talking points.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

More of the same. Dude, I've come at this from multiple angles. You just spout the same exact talking points.

Yet you can't answer a simple question when I ask because you know I am right I've thoroughly destroyed your points and instead of just thinking, "maybe scientists do know more about this than me and random boomers on Facebook", you just doubled down and spazticly flailed around

 

[Nobue]

Yet you can't answer a simple question when I ask because you know I am right I've thoroughly destroyed your points and instead of just thinking, "maybe scientists do know more about this than me and random boomers on Facebook", you just doubled down and spazticly flailed around

I've addressed every question. You just keep sperging about soccer.

Say, why aren't your previous vaccines working where most people are vaccinated?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I've addressed every question. You just keep sperging about soccer.

Lol no you didn't. You just dodged the questions by rewording them and answer those. You still haven't shown where all these tens of millions of dead people are or explained why 99% of doctors and scientists are sociopaths who would kill themselves and their own families to make big pharma richer and to make themselves poorer. Oh, and you haven't explained why soccer deaths are lower than 5 years ago or admitted you were wrong about that.

I've literally shown you with the math why your claims are wrong, but instead you just change your claims and then deny the math because you're completely inept at math and logic.

You also demand an "INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION", but then you also admit you do not trust any scientist or doctor and claim to know more than them (despite having no education beyond your special ed high school), so how would that even work?

Say, why aren't your previous vaccines working where most people are vaccinated?

What do you mean? Look at deaths. The counties that voted for the GOP, the political party you simp for because of your crippling autism turning you into a boomer, have the highest death rates and cases.

I've completely destroyed your claims, using your own sources. Instead you just flail around like a spaz and double down on your Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones rhetoric, just like a good boomer. The future is now, old man.