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This is never gonna end is it?
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
 
Read through the opinions for the 6th Circuit decision on the OSHA mandate that was mentioned upthread. This is going to the Supreme Court soon (petitioners have already filed an emergency appeal) so I'll save the serious sperganalysis for that when it happens and keep this relatively brief. If you want a summary article, Bloomberg has a synopsis up. (Archive) I've also attached a copy of the majority opinion, concurrence, and dissent, rolled up in 1 PDF.

Stranch's Majority Opinion -- "Sold Out So Hard Her Grandma's In A Pawn Shop"

This is hot garbage and one of the most nakedly political opinions I've read in years. Stranch rejects every single argument of the petitioners -- OSHA had authority, it didn't overreach (it's ok to regulate people outside the workplace so long as you use an employer as a middleman patsy), it wasn't tardy (not that kind of tard-y) in acting, there's an emergency that puts literally everyone who even thinks the word "workplace" in grave danger (yes, if you read between the lines, somehow the vaccinated are both safe and in danger enough to justify a nationwide order, even after voluntary vaccination compliance hit north of 70%), the emergency rule doesn't need to be tailored to anything so long as it at least kinda helps, and no one has or will be overly burdened or irreparably injured by this mandate (and since they haven't yet been injured, they can't ask for an injunction to prevent injury -- what in the actual fuck? My CivPro professor would've failed me if I wrote something that stupid on one of his exams). She also repeatedly cites some asshole from NPR as an authority.
Stranch even goes so far as to deliberately misread one of her colleagues, Larsen, the author of the dissenting opinion. (Who calls her out for this in her dissent.) Brilliant legal mind.

She also mentions Jacobson, and dismisses federalism concerns about vaccine orders being traditionally in the purview of the states. Stranch then goes the extra step to suggest that there's nothing stopping from OSHA regulating vaccination status, alongside the states. In other words, she goes farther than Jacobson did. She also brushes off the recent CDC eviction moratorium case, and writes an analysis of the relevant definition of "necessary" from McCulloch v. Maryland that's so bad that it again would've gotten me an F if I'd written something that bad on an exam.

Bonus quote from her opinion because it especially pissed me off:

Recognizing that the “old normal” is not going to return, employers and employees have sought new models for a workplace that will protect the safety and health of employees who earn their living there.

Gibbons's Concurrent Opinion -- "If Only I Had A Spine"

"I agree with Stranch. The only thing I'm adding is we should defer to OSHA and stay out of everything." (Because this logic worked out so great for everyone stuck in the US internment camps in WW2. Way to have no balls, and not because you're a woman.)

Larsen -- "The Sane Man In Clown World"

Finally, someone who's not a sellout or a coward. His response to Stranch can essentially be summarized as "Bitch, what?? The exact opposite of all of that!" His main point of attack is that OSHA grossly exceeded its grant of authority by Congress in an unprecedented power grab, and you'd have to be a blind idiot to think otherwise. Key quote:

OSHA has alerted us to no prior attempt on its part to mandate a solution that extends beyond the workplace walls—much less a permanent and physically intrusive one, promulgated on an emergency basis, without any chance for public participation. But that it is what OSHA has done here. A vaccine may not be taken off when the workday ends; and its effects, unlike this rule, will not expire in six months.
He also thinks the opposite on whether the CDC eviction moratorium case is relevant, and hammers on how the sheer scope of a regulation matters, and can be key in deciding if something is or is not a valid exercise of authority over a subject matter that would otherwise be acceptable. He picks an excellent example to support his argument -- how the FDA was barred from issuing broad mandates regulating tobacco, despite it being a serious issue and falling clearly under its domain. It was invalid purely off of the sheer scope, and had to be handled by the legislature, not an unelected agency.

The majority deems the major questions doctrine inapplicable, first because, in its eyes, OSHA’s authority to undertake a nationwide vaccine-or-test mandate is “unambiguous.” Maj. Op. at 16. It rests that conclusion primarily on the fact that OSHA has been regulating workplace health and safety since 1970. But the major questions doctrine is not about the age of the agency; and it is not only about the kind of power but also the scope or degree. Claiming that it made no such error, the majority doubles down with examples of OSHA exercising power similar in kind and calls that “scope.” But no matter how many times OSHA has regulated discrete illnesses in particular workspaces, this emergency rule remains a massive expansion of the scope of its authority. In Brown & Williamson, the FDA had been regulating “drugs” and “devices” for 58 years. 529 U.S. at 125. And regulating nicotine seemed to fit in the FDA’s wheelhouse. See id. at 127. Nonetheless, the Court denied the FDA’s authority to make “a policy decision of such economic and political magnitude”—even one in the agency’s ken, and even though tobacco was “perhaps the single most significant threat to public health in the United States” at the time.6 Id. at 133, 161.

Also, I got my wish from an earlier post -- a judge who actually is willing to sit down, look at the stats for Covid, and say, "Wait, hold on a minute, you can't have it both ways."

Here, a quick look at the evidence raises an eyebrow. OSHA has determined that no vaccinated worker is in “grave danger,” whereas all unvaccinated workers are. 86 Fed. Reg. at 61,434, 61,419. But the government’s own data reveal that the death rate for unvaccinated people between the ages of 18 and 29 is roughly equivalent to that of vaccinated persons between 50 and 64. See Rates of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status, supra, at 10.5 So an unvaccinated 18-year-old bears the same risk as a vaccinated 50-year-old. And yet, the 18-year-old is in grave danger, while the 50-year-old is not. One of these conclusions must be wrong; either way is a problem for OSHA’s rule.
 

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Article from BBC ticking all the propaganda boxes.



Beds almost fully occupied:

St George's Hospital in Tooting in south London is in one of the boroughs most affected by Covid, and it's bracing for a crisis.
The emergency department - famous from the reality show 24 Hours in A&E - has already started to see a rise in the number of Covid patients, and the hospital is close to being full, with 98-99% of its beds occupied.

Pandemic of the unvaxxed:

"The people who are getting very ill with Covid are quite often people who have not, for whatever reason, had the vaccine," says Dr Jennings.

He says it's a pattern that is repeated across the country. "More than three-quarters of our patients who need life-saving treatments in intensive care have not been vaccinated. And we have had deaths in intensive care - deaths that might have been avoided if they'd had the vaccine. It's a very sad thing to see."

Santa wearing a mask. Even he's not safe:

There's a Christmas tree in the intensive care unit (ICU), and an inflatable Santa wearing a mask in the corridor outside. Presents are being wrapped in a side room. The staff are putting on a brave face, but underneath the mood is far from festive.

Young, unvaxxed people, are the real at-risk population here!:

But of the 11 Covid patients now in intensive care, nine have not been vaccinated. And the profile of patients has shifted, says Dr Bedair. They're a lot younger than they were in the previous waves. Rather than frailer, older people, the youngest Covid patient here is 19, but most are in their 40s.

Staff are just so tired:

"People are really tired," says Dr Bedair. "Our staff have gone above and beyond, they work really, really hard. But that does come at a cost."

Begging for people to get vaxxed and boosted so Xmas isn't cancelled:

"It's extremely daunting, especially over Christmas," [ICU matron Tammy Stacey] says. "People didn't have a Christmas last year. Having to do it all again is not something we're looking forward to. We're just begging people to go and have their vaccines and get their boosters."

Staff are struggling... but they're doing the best they can!:

Staff absences caused by Covid in the community are adding to the pressure.

"It's a real struggle," she admits. But they're carrying on as best they can.

Another emotional plea for everyone to get vaxxed and boosted. Don't think she received the latest update tho about vaxxed still being contagious:

When asked how she feels, she's overcome with emotion. But a few moments later she comes back to the point she and all her frontline colleagues want to make - please get the jab.

"I just hope that people remember that getting the vaccine is not necessarily just about you, it's about protecting your family, those people that you come into contact with, they could be more vulnerable than you. It really is what's going to help us cope with this crisis."

Take the vax, get the booster, and take your pills too:

The mood is more buoyant elsewhere in the hospital, where a new Covid pill is being dispensed for the first time to people who have caught the virus.

The drug molnupiravir is being dispatched from the hospital pharmacy by courier to vulnerable patients who will be able to take the pills at home to help prevent serious illness in the hope they won't need hospital care. It offers an added layer of protection - "like a fire blanket" - says one doctor.

Get the vax, get the booster, protect others and the NHS:

The drugs are offering hope to frontline staff preparing for the looming wave. But they all plead for people to get a booster jab.

"It's really important that people recognise that the vaccine lessens the chances of being hospitalised or dying of Covid and protects people's loved ones and helps the NHS to be able to cope," says Richard Jennings.

And the most NPC-looking person I've seen in a while, ICU matron Tammy Stacey, the one with the histrionics in the article:

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I want to see that inflatable Santa wearing a mask, just sounds so dystopian.
 
1. all that stuff was going to have been normalized in the next few years regardless
Got any proof of that? Aside from the point about misinformation, all of this was pretty much a pipe dream of the real sicko elites out there, since what we had was already "good enough" for most of them. I mean most people carry their phones everywhere and plaster their real names everywhere to link credit card/bank accounts to. Same thing with lockdowns, pretty sure climate lockdowns were another straight up fantasy of everyone besides a few fringe loons, like way further beneath even "abolish the police" pre-2020.

The only way this could have been normalized so fast and so thoroughly (even the misinformation part, we're probably 1-2 years ahead of where we would've been otherwise) was through a scamdemic.
2. stop fucking saying "in 2040 mask-wearing, social distancing, and vaccine passports will be normal because patriot act" like there's brick-to-the-face obvious similarities between them that i saw back in march 2020 but you seriously can't use that as a perfect reference guide when there's this much pushback. since around late last year and especially over the course of this year i've noticed the republican party become significantly more embattled in general so you really can't say it'll go on indefinitely
I didn't bring up the Patriot Act, and I'm not even mentioning America since thanks to red states there's actual pushback at every level over it. I'm talking about Europe and Australia where there's almost no resistance and it just gets lumped under the "far-right Nazis", the same shit they tarred Americans against this nonsense with before the election when the narrative switched to "the Republican Party are ALL far-right Nazis" which is laughable to about 40-50% of Americans since nobody thinks people like Abraham the retired Jewish guy at the country club who votes Republican and donates to AIPAC is a Nazi.
 
Btw., question regarding Ivermectin. A friend of mine is a pharmacologist and besides doing his PhD in public health he's working in a pharmacy. He was talking about his colleagues talking about Ivermectin and how it's complete bullshit, which didn't quite fit with what I heard about it.
He was saying that Ivermectin has to be given via injection, otherwise it would just work against intestinal parasites, and that the injection in horses would hurt the horses and subsequently humans a whole lot.
But Ivermectin is used as an oral treatment against scabies and ochnocerciasus (river blindness), which decidedly aren't intestinal, and all I found about Ivermectin causing pain is that when used as a subcutaneous injection it can cause mild pain in some swine. He had that from colleagues who owned horses, apparently, but I also know that pharmacists and horse owners are dumb as fuck.
I don't remember if he said Ivermectin had to be injected intramusculary, which is another thing that all the information for Ivermectin as injections I found said not to do because it's not designed for that. It might be that these people are either extremely dumb and would potentially harm their horses if they treated them against parasites, or they're lying.
I think there might be a lot of misinformation around (big shock, I know).
My wife caught the coof pretty bad, comparable to a moderate to severe flu. I gave her the human version and she was 50% better within 24 hours, and completely fine about two days later. Her coworker she caught it from was hospitalized.I took it at the same time and never caught it--though I did have some minor symptoms that kinda felt like I had it but my body cleared it easily.

From my perspective it looks like pure evil that this drug is being kept from people.
 
Btw., question regarding Ivermectin. A friend of mine is a pharmacologist and besides doing his PhD in public health he's working in a pharmacy. He was talking about his colleagues talking about Ivermectin and how it's complete bullshit, which didn't quite fit with what I heard about it.
He was saying that Ivermectin has to be given via injection, otherwise it would just work against intestinal parasites, and that the injection in horses would hurt the horses and subsequently humans a whole lot.
But Ivermectin is used as an oral treatment against scabies and ochnocerciasus (river blindness), which decidedly aren't intestinal, and all I found about Ivermectin causing pain is that when used as a subcutaneous injection it can cause mild pain in some swine. He had that from colleagues who owned horses, apparently, but I also know that pharmacists and horse owners are dumb as fuck.
I don't remember if he said Ivermectin had to be injected intramusculary, which is another thing that all the information for Ivermectin as injections I found said not to do because it's not designed for that. It might be that these people are either extremely dumb and would potentially harm their horses if they treated them against parasites, or they're lying.
I think there might be a lot of misinformation around (big shock, I know).
Ivermectin is used as a chewable to prevent heartworm in dogs. Seeing as how the heart is not directly attached to the digestive system, I think your friend is being lied to.
 
noooooooo it's surely brigading if more and more people don't share my views!

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They've backed themselves into quite a corner. They have to stick with the cult and take infinite needles, or they're a dang dirty disinfo antivaxxer.
The emotional investment is too big, and they can't give in.
 

Scathing letter from the editors of the BMJ (British Medical Journal) to Zuck about Facebooks fact checking and fake news flagging of an article on the Pfizer trials whistleblower.

Dear Mark Zuckerberg,

We are Fiona Godlee and Kamran Abbasi, editors of The BMJ, one of the world’s oldest and most influential general medical journals. We are writing to raise serious concerns about the “fact checking” being undertaken by third party providers on behalf of Facebook/Meta.
In September, a former employee of Ventavia, a contract research company helping carry out the main Pfizer covid-19 vaccine trial, began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails. These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites.
The BMJ commissioned an investigative reporter to write up the story for our journal. The article was published on 2 November, following legal review, external peer review and subject to The BMJ’s usual high level editorial oversight and review.[1]
But from November 10, readers began reporting a variety of problems when trying to share our article. Some reported being unable to share it. Many others reported having their posts flagged with a warning about “Missing context ... Independent fact-checkers say this information could mislead people.” Those trying to post the article were informed by Facebook that people who repeatedly share “false information” might have their posts moved lower in Facebook’s News Feed. Group administrators where the article was shared received messages from Facebook informing them that such posts were “partly false.”
Readers were directed to a “fact check” performed by a Facebook contractor named Lead Stories.[2]
We find the “fact check” performed by Lead Stories to be inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible.
-- It fails to provide any assertions of fact that The BMJ article got wrong
-- It has a nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials”
-- The first paragraph inaccurately labels The BMJ a “news blog”
-- It contains a screenshot of our article with a stamp over it stating “Flaws Reviewed,” despite the Lead Stories article not identifying anything false or untrue in The BMJ article
-- It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert”
We have contacted Lead Stories, but they refuse to change anything about their article or actions that have led to Facebook flagging our article.
We have also contacted Facebook directly, requesting immediate removal of the “fact checking” label and any link to the Lead Stories article, thereby allowing our readers to freely share the article on your platform.
There is also a wider concern that we wish to raise. We are aware that The BMJ is not the only high quality information provider to have been affected by the incompetence of Meta’s fact checking regime. To give one other example, we would highlight the treatment by Instagram (also owned by Meta) of Cochrane, the international provider of high quality systematic reviews of the medical evidence.[3] Rather than investing a proportion of Meta’s substantial profits to help ensure the accuracy of medical information shared through social media, you have apparently delegated responsibility to people incompetent in carrying out this crucial task. Fact checking has been a staple of good journalism for decades. What has happened in this instance should be of concern to anyone who values and relies on sources such as The BMJ.
We hope you will act swiftly: specifically to correct the error relating to The BMJ’s article and to review the processes that led to the error; and generally to reconsider your investment in and approach to fact checking overall.

Best wishes,
Fiona Godlee, editor in chief
Kamran Abbasi, incoming editor in chief
The BMJ

The fact checking article on Lead Stories:

Lead Stories fact checking article: https://archive.md/iIpMO

BMJ open letter: https://archive.md/1Zli5
 
In a word, yes.

Oh, and:



Don't think 2 will always be enough either.
Keep going, bitch. This is how you get Minecrafted.
 
Has anyone mentioned the big push of news about how COVID-19 is projected to be endemic by 2024?

COVID-19 could become endemic by 2024, predicts Pfizer amid Omicron scare

For anyone out of the loop, the standard issue flu is considered endemic. That's why they do a yearly push to get people vaccinated for it.
2024, just in time for the presidential election, talk about a "cohencidence".

Btw, I saw that interesting article about that fucked NIH director.
December 18, 2021

No, seriously: Outgoing NIH director picks up guitar and sings 'COVID over the Rainbow'​

By C.J. Baker

Francis Collins, the outgoing Chief Pharisee of the National Institutes of Health, gave a bizarre farewell address on December 14, 2021, during a so-called U.S. Department of Health and Human Services "town hall" event (which, despite the name, appears to have been pre-recorded on a soundstage).
In so doing, Collins achieved a rare feat, something generally unachievable by mortals. Like one of the ancient Greek gods, he managed to completely and perfectly personify a particular aspect of human behavior. As Aphrodite personified sexual desire, and Athena wisdom, so in this special moment did Francis Collins become the quintessential embodiment of...hypocrisy.

Francis Collins is the man who oversaw Tony Fauci and the NIAID's funding of coronavirus gain-of-function experimentation (yes, it was gain-of-function research) at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (yes, it was the place where COVID-19 originated). As Rutgers professor Richard Ebright put it:
The NIH — specifically, Collins, Fauci, and [Lawrence A.] Tabak — lied to Congress, lied to the press, and lied to the public. Knowingly. Willfully. Brazenly.
Collins made his career by supporting and funding morally objectionable research of many kinds, while sporting the public persona of a sort of hyper-spiritual and unctuously tenderhearted Christian. Nowhere was this on fuller display than at this "town hall."
In a performance that exemplifies the term "tone-deaf" in so many ways, the dear, avuncular Collins picked up a guitar — complete with a fake expression of surprise at its presence on the set — and gave a birthday party clown's rendition of his own clumsy, cringe-worthy parody of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," entitled "Somewhere Past the Pandemic."
You have to see it to believe it.

With his gray walrus mustache, Francis resembled an underfed Captain Kangaroo. His fingerpicking was rudimentary, his rhythm variable, and his voice alternated between a thin warble and abrupt talk-singing. He channeled Fred Rogers as best he could, albeit with none of the sincerity and ten times the creepiness. Through it all, he carried a smarmy glint in his eye that seemed to say, "See? I didn't have to be an evil scientist. I could've been a third-rate folk singer!"
But it was the words, ladies and gentlemen, the words. They weren't lyrics; there was nothing lyrical about them. Yes, they were badly enough composed — extra syllables at the end of several lines, strained rhymes like "come off" with "cough" — to send Harold Arlen and Judy Garland spinning in their graves.
But it was their message that sent Francis into his Apotheosis of Hypocrisy. For example:
"Somewhere past the pandemic, we'll hug our friends / And thank the people and science that brought the pandemic's end."
In the seemingly benign guise of an amateurish, lighthearted children's singer, Francis Collins achieved several Olympian feats of hypocrisy.
He made a cartoon of the misery and death suffered by millions of people worldwide, caused by a virus whose origin he almost certainly played a role in, and also caused by the draconian measures; suppressed therapies; and rushed, mandated vaccines that he, Fauci, and the rest of his NIH foisted upon the world.
He attempted one last time to gaslight the world about his role in this great disaster, and he recast himself and his cronies as grandfatherly benefactors of mankind rather than the amoral profiteers that they are.
He played his utterly phony public persona to its logical extreme, one last nauseating time.
The whole song lasted about two minutes, though it seemed much longer. Finally, finally, struggling to reach the top notes, Francis ended with:
"Let's...end...COVID...now!"
Yes, let's end COVID now, shall we? Step one: pound sand, Francis Collins.
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Ministers meeting today to discuss covid measure and restrictions. There's a graph that shows that half of England is seeing a reduction in cases.

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This blew my tiny mind though:

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745,183 people went to get their booster in one day. Apparently we are up to 1,000,000 a day getting jabbed. A million (double jabbed) people a day. Xmas last year must have been forgotten by the goldfish npcs
 
I think Hepatitis vaccine is given to 14 year olds here.

Man, fuck Pfizer for pushing the vax on kids, toddlers, and babies. With adults, I don't give a shit. They have the knowledge to research this shit and understand the risks. But kids, fuck. They don't know any better. There's a special place in hell for everyone that ends up with kid blood on their hands. From the CEO of Pfizer, Joe Biden, the parents, and their doctors. If there is a hell, I hope these cocksuckers end up on the highest level with Satan and Judas.

The only hell that isn't a jewish myth does exist, but we call it reddit.

Okay

Or more like middle height woman

This explains a bit

Kids are cruel but they don't know squat. Don't take their opinion to heart. If they weren't calling you fat they'd be making fun if zits or hair or some shit.


Your rellies were wrong though


Nah I never gave a fuck about what others said. Too egotistic.

I was the 3rd fattest kid in the class. There was this fatter game nerd who looked like Chris with stick arms and the chainsmoker who was morbidly obese.

But the rest of the kids had a straight line between belly to beltline.

I think that BMI is just tailored to an already healthy at every size population.

I am not lgbt so I won't look up naked kid photos, but here are the adult approximations:
Healthy and slim:
Here is my fat as fuck bodytype, just in asian:

Ah grandpa, his final words to me where:
When is the baby due?
He was a doctor, so he was trained to know who is or isn't fat.
 
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The spike is literally evolving to attack the vaccinated...the incorporation of the antibody on the receptor.....they know

They want everyone in the same boat. Do not get any vaccination under any circumstance unless dead virus one like novavax comes through.

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(What they really mean is the vaccinated)

Like i said 1000 pages ago. The vaccinated will be the ones who have tok stay in their house because they literally forced this thing to evolve to their mRNA antibodies (which are nothing like natural antibodies)


I first heard this theory on the chans from a supposed 40 year immunologist

Supposedly how fast this thing is spreading compared to others
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Im still skeptical how they can tell the difference but here it is. When 90% of your city (london)is vaccinated there is no excuse for this unless its evolved to incorporate the mRNA antibody like i am saying.

The only "mild symptoms" are being reported in south africa where the population is mostly unvaccinated. Uk hospitals are filling up quick and it looks like lockdowns are back regardless of vaccine status
 
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The spike is literally evolving to attack the vaccinated...the incorporation of the antibody on the receptor.....they know

They want everyone in the same boat. Do not get any vaccination under any circumstance unless dead virus one like novavax comes through.

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(What they really mean is the vaccinated)

Like i said 1000 pages ago. The vaccinated will be the ones who have tok stay in their house because they literally forced this thing to evolve to their mRNA antibodies (which are nothing like natural antibodies)


I first heard this theory on the chans from a supposed 40 year immunologist
Previously been infected? And then vaccinated like 80%-90% of people? Or infected after vaccination? That's not the same thing as being a pureblood.

A couple pages ago, it was even suggested Omicron was developed in a lab as well. The die off is coming.
 
Previously been infected? And then vaccinated like 80%-90% of people? Or infected after vaccination? That's not the same thing as being a pureblood.

A couple pages ago, it was even suggested Omicron was developed in a lab as well. The die off is coming.

Could of been some china bio shit to attack the vaxx. China has labs and infrastructure in botswana where it was detected

Clearly its running over fully vaccinated populations and leaving 3rd world shitholes with no issues. The only denominator in this is vaccination status.
 
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