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[safety math]

Can anyone elaborate on what the “tire houses” are that they’re talking about? Why would one use tires to build an underground home? (I did try googling this btw, to no avail)

 

[DoTheDrew]

Can anyone elaborate on what the “tire houses” are that they’re talking about? Why would one use tires to build an underground home? (I did try googling this btw, to no avail)

You're looking for the term "earthship". They got one, apparently, and it looks like that's not a popular idea in the local area.

 

[Old Fart]

You're looking for the term "earthship". They got one, apparently, and it looks like that's not a popular idea in the local area.

There is one in the neighbourhood but I think they stopped short of buying it. At any rate, it's barely half finished and rotting away.

 

[DoTheDrew]

There is one in the neighbourhood but I think they stopped short of buying it. At any rate, it's barely half finished and rotting away.

Ah, thanks, friend. I was under the impression that they did buy it and it's rotting away half-finished on their property. I was too lazy to actually look it up.

Anyway, the idea behind earthships is fascinating. I'm guessing tires could leak all sorts of unpleasant stuff into the ground if you used them to build a house, though. Concrete, as mentioned above, seems a lot better, safer, and all-around durable.

(Edit: grammar, spelling)

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Can anyone elaborate on what the “tire houses” are that they’re talking about? Why would one use tires to build an underground home? (I did try googling this btw, to no avail)

It's supposed to be killing two birds with one stone: building a "green" house out of cheap and plentiful materials and effectively using un-recycleable trash. Just like communism it sounds better in theory than in practice since used tyres are pollutants, not really green at all.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

There's a good amount of stuff that feels like it COULD be trancher related, mostly the new junk rules. According to Custer County records, the trancher's lot number is 39, which does not appear named as a complaint in the minutes.
The association may use different numbering, but it is highly unlikely.
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Reading through the boards minutes though shows they have a different reoccurring trouble maker: Rob/Bob Klein, who was the Director in 2015 and then the Treasurer in 2016.
Here's some humorous snippets.

Spoiler: rob fucking klein

2020:
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2021:
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Less funny/proof of board status:
2019:
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2015, Director and court case:
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2016, Treasurer:

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If only they were Lot 41…

 

[Oxyjen]

It's supposed to be killing two birds with one stone: building a "green" house out of cheap and plentiful materials and effectively using un-recycleable trash. Just like communism it sounds better in theory than in practice since used tyres are pollutants, not really green at all.

They’re not actually bad if permanently buried properly as part of a structure.

The problem that tends to arise is: The hippies discover after building a single course that it’s bloody hard, slow, backbreaking work, and you need an army of unpaid volunteers to get anywhere.
So the actual issue is the abandoned hole in the landscape littered with hundreds of hoarded tyres, now an eyesore and disposal issue for someone else.

There are other issues too, they’re heavy on concrete and petrochemical based insulation, so not the lowest footprint. The main benefit is being able to achieve reasonable comfort with zero heating and cooling energy input. There’s other ways to achieve that but the earthship is a low tech, low cost means of getting to self sufficiency *if* you have a cult following of willing laborers to build it.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

Can anyone elaborate on what the “tire houses” are that they’re talking about? Why would one use tires to build an underground home? (I did try googling this btw, to no avail)

To elaborate a little more, people are trying to use the tires as a shortcut when building a rammed earth home. Rammed earth is basically taking a mixture of sand, clay, gravel, and usually some type of fiber like hay or animal hair, and compacting it down hard in layers inside of a form. The layers form floors and walls of the building. Done correctly, rammed earth is like concrete and can last for hundreds of years. The walls are thick with a high thermal mass, meaning the interior of the home stays at a more consistent temperature. They're incredibly popular among the net-zero home and off-grid living communities for a large variety of reasons. However, they can be hideously expensive to build due to the amount of labor required.

All of this compacting takes place in wooden forms that are then removed and reused when the walls are cured enough to stand on their own. People think they can be cute and use tires to skip the form-building process without realizing how much fucking work it is to build one of these structures. The tires have to be filled and compacted by hand due to their irregular shape. It's fucking dumb - just use wooden forms like humans have been doing for ten thousand years. Communities then end up with the problem of aspirational amateur home builders abandoning their project partway through, leaving a huge mess of dirty used tires all over the property to rot in the sun and leech chemicals into the groundwater.

 

[Oxyjen]

Just to sperge a little more on the topic:

Spoiler

The earthship is supposed to be “buried”, i.e surrounded by earth on 3 sides, either by digging into a hillside or building up a berm. It’s different from the typical rammed earth dwelling - supposed to be more thermally beneficial and resistant to quakes, wildfires, hurricanes and what have you.
So it’s effectively a type of bunker and requires appropriate structure. But your typical bunker uses a huge amount of concrete. The earthship uses the rammed tyres instead for this retaining wall. The reasoning is that the tyres will end up buried somewhere anyway so why not do something useful with them.

So yeah, it can be argued about whether it’s a good idea or not, and clearly the labor part is what kills it, but there is some logical thinking behind it.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Just to sperge a little more on the topic:

Spoiler

The earthship is supposed to be “buried”, i.e surrounded by earth on 3 sides, either by digging into a hillside or building up a berm. It’s different from the typical rammed earth dwelling - supposed to be more thermally beneficial and resistant to quakes, wildfires, hurricanes and what have you.
So it’s effectively a type of bunker and requires appropriate structure. But your typical bunker uses a huge amount of concrete. The earthship uses the rammed tyres instead for this retaining wall. The reasoning is that the tyres will end up buried somewhere anyway so why not do something useful with them.

So yeah, it can be argued about whether it’s a good idea or not, and clearly the labor part is what kills it, but there is some logical thinking behind it.

Yeah, I can see the appeal of having both a "green friendly" house and more importantly, a bunker, is to Penny. I have a feeling that had he not discovered the troon life he'd be LARPing with a Liberal milita somewhere yelling about property and such. He's paranoid enough that he'd want some kind of cocoon to hide in, and geeky enough that he'd love to live like Star Wars characters.

Kevin talked about moving into the earthship to have more room for all his toys. Are we certain they don't own it? I remember them working on it a while back, but didn't do much after.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Kevin talked about moving into the earthship to have more room for all his toys. Are we certain they don't own it? I remember them working on it a while back, but didn't do much after.

I can see Kevin wanting that (more room for his toys) but at the same time he would have to waddle all the way to the main house to get food because we know he ain’t cooking for himself. If Penny doesn’t move in with him to wipe his ass, he ain’t going nowhere.

 

[AnOminous]

You're looking for the term "earthship". They got one, apparently, and it looks like that's not a popular idea in the local area.

Sometimes people will fill old tires with dirt or something else and build walls or entire houses out of them. It's a hippy dippy thing, which is somewhat ironic because it's not environmentally friendly at all.

So the actual issue is the abandoned hole in the landscape littered with hundreds of hoarded tyres, now an eyesore and disposal issue for someone else.

Meanwhile, the tires can fill with water and turn into mosquito breeding zones, enjoy your West Nile. While this isn't as likely in an arid climate, they'd still tend to attract vermin of various kinds. They also tend to break down, releasing various toxic substances into the ground.

 

[Open Window Maniac]

I hope Earl begins his assault on the Tranch soon. I can't imagine many alpacas will survive the winter and they could really use someone to liberate them right about now.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Communities then end up with the problem of aspirational amateur home builders abandoning their project partway through, leaving a huge mess of dirty used tires all over the property to rot in the sun and leech chemicals into the groundwater.

Which appears to be exactly what happened here.

 

[Cuckoman]

I hope Earl begins his assault on the Tranch soon. I can't imagine many alpacas will survive the winter and they could really use someone to liberate them right about now.

Didn't they build a "barn" for the alpacas which was basically just a hole in the ground covered with tarp as a roof?

If so, zero alpacas will survive. They have no winter fat and they were all recently sheared so they will freeze or starve to death.
And the ones that don't freeze to death will die when the snow will cave in the tarp roof in their "hole of death" barn.
When summer comes, the snow will melt and they will have a pond with dead and half rotten alpaca corpses floating around.

FFS Earl, make sure your surveillance drone has 4k video and stream this shit on youtube 24/7

 

[AMHOLIO]

Didn't they build a "barn" for the alpacas which was basically just a hole in the ground covered with tarp as a roof?

If so, zero alpacas will survive. They have no winter fat and they were all recently sheared so they will freeze or starve to death.
And the ones that don't freeze to death will die when the snow will cave in the tarp roof in their "hole of death" barn.
When summer comes, the snow will melt and they will have a pond with dead and half rotten alpaca corpses floating around.

FFS Earl, make sure your surveillance drone has 4k video and stream this shit on youtube 24/7

They still have the rape shed aka the original crowded barn, so at least some of the long necked bastards will tough it out. The tarphole refugees are fucked though. This thread really is just a saga of "They can't be THAT retarded" and then finding out that yes, they are, in fact, that retarded.

 

[Jacinthe]

Looks like Paul's got a new(?) Twitter account.

Link: https://twitter.com/RavenManifests
Archive: https://archive.md/FC2vT

 

[scumbus]

Looks like Paul's got a new(?) Twitter account.

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Link: https://twitter.com/RavenManifests
Archive: https://archive.md/FC2vT

"Recalcitrant Qariwarmi Toddler Witch"
Did I miss something? Why is he a self-described "toddler"? Is Paul into ABDL now, or was he always like that?

Also, this is a nitpick but I'm fairly certain his spelling of "Qariwarmi" is incorrect. I did a little research (literally just a Google search) on the term to see what the fuck it is, and the only spellings I see used are either "Qwariwarmi" or "Quariwarmi."

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

Looks like Paul's got a new(?) Twitter account.

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Link: https://twitter.com/RavenManifests
Archive: https://archive.md/FC2vT

I like the artist watermark on the avatar. Dude was so lazy he couldn't even spend 3 minutes on DeviantArt finding unmarked art to steal.

 

[Hell yeah dude]

lol