Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The hospitals are very likely to be overrun in the USA; but not for that long as the wave peaks and dies - and I predict that the worst state for vaccination, which also has the highest drug use coupled with near number one obesity and a high proportion of elderly - our shining star West Virginia - is going to become ground zero statistically for a media sensation.

With only 1.8 Million people ( 0.5% give or take of the USA population), no one rightly gives a flying rats ass what happens there; and statistically nothing that happens in WV would do much to national statistics, but for a good show it will be to irresistible to the media as it gets thumped by Covid in late December and through January and even February.

Get ready for the press opportunities for Manchin, Capito and Jim Justice as they enjoy the spotlight for a while.
 
If the hospitals were really overrun when everything just started, medical interpreters would have more work, especially with all that 'disproportionally affected' thing pushed by media. Instead, most of us had to go on unemployment, people I know were furloughed, positions reduced. I guess if everything repeats again exactly as it was, this job will shift completely out of realm of an in-person work to a shitty video thing. Not that I complain, having left the workforce.
 
One thing that warms my black heart is the fact, that many Kiwis in this thread have a great likelihood of seeing Anthony Fauci demise. The guy is 80, there is a great chance he will croak within 10 years. Or at least get so old that he will no longer appear on TV. The same goes for other insufferable dullards that we have to bear now. I know he is only a pharma pawn, and easily replaceable. However, his infamous career is going to end, and that's sweet...
The elites don't play by our rules. Soros and Klaus Schwab are pushing 90, Henry Kissinger is almost 100, David "Most Heart Transplants in History" Rockefeller was almost 102 when he finally went to his master Satan, etc. For more public figures, Ronnie Raygun lived for 20 years with Biden-tier dementia before expiring at 93. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia was 90 when he found out Allah wasn't giving him 72 virgins. Fauci's gonna live for a long time to come, and he'll probably get to scare another generation during the next scamdemic in 2039.

"Only the good die young" is a very true statement, when your grandparents can be nice, hard-working boomers and barely reach 70 while these evil SOBs from their day outlive them and remain to torment their descendents.
(2) Music these days is trash. Concerts these days are for nigger worshipping faggots.
Find a decent concert for your boomer music then. I think the last concert I saw before the scamdemic was King Crimson and even if they were fucking ancient it was a great night (was the 50th anniversary of In the Court of the Crimson King, cool stuff).

Only reason I don't bother with concerts or restaurants these days is because of vaxx passport/mask bullshit. I absolutely refuse to eat at any place with a mask mandate. Fuck you, serve me in my car or lose my business. Thankfully for restaurants, if you live in a red state (or sometimes even a blue state) you can find places that don't give a fuck. I love this joint in my county that is always crowded as hell, even last winter, with no one wearing masks. Concerts are harder to substitute, but I've heard house concerts have grown immensely, and some bands will schedule shows in places without the mask/vaxx bullshit.
Germany, or as we like to call it, "Cuckistan".
>tfw your entire nation becomes Cuxhaven
The hospitals are very likely to be overrun in the USA; but not for that long as the wave peaks and dies - and I predict that the worst state for vaccination, which also has the highest drug use coupled with near number one obesity and a high proportion of elderly - our shining star West Virginia - is going to become ground zero statistically for a media sensation.

With only 1.8 Million people ( 0.5% give or take of the USA population), no one rightly gives a flying rats ass what happens there; and statistically nothing that happens in WV would do much to national statistics, but for a good show it will be to irresistible to the media as it gets thumped by Covid in late December and through January and even February.

Get ready for the press opportunities for Manchin, Capito and Jim Justice as they enjoy the spotlight for a while.
A bullshit media sensation, since statistically it won't be much worse than what happens in any other state and the media will just want to screech at Joe Manchin. The hospitals will be as "overrun" as they were these past two years which is to say "not at all" since people keep pushing the horseshit "muh ICUs" statistic as if it actually says something.

West Virginia is a great state, looks like a very free part of the country, overall beautiful, and it doesn't attract New Yorkers and Commiefornians unlike other free parts of the US. What's not to love?
 
The hospitals are very likely to be overrun in the USA
Why? Omicron is way too mild to produce a significant uptick in hospital demand. What did Dennark have again earlier in this thread; 106k cases, 30 hospitalisations? Thats one for every what? Three and a half thousandish cases? And that assumes the Omicron wasnt just incidental and theyre actually not in there for something else. Whoopdi shit.

Any hospital "overrun" in the near-future failed to anticipate demand pretty much regardless of muh variant.
 
Why? Omicron is way too mild to produce a significant uptick in hospital demand. What did Dennark have again earlier in this thread; 106k cases, 30 hospitalisations? Thats one for every what? Three and a half thousandish cases? And that assumes the Omicron wasnt just incidental and theyre actually not in there for something else. Whoopdi shit.

Any hospital "overrun" in the near-future failed to anticipate demand pretty much regardless of muh variant.
Consider this:

You are completely correct that Omicron is much milder; however as with any pathogen there will always be a portion of the population more susceptible to it than others. We can therefore expect to see over the next 30 days probably half a million to 1.5 million daily cases of Covid.

As a result, even though Omicron is not going to put as many in hospital by percentage, the sheer number of infections will mean only a fraction need to show more severe symptoms to bind our hospitals up.
 
heh guys are you ready for the 4th jab

Tony Blair: Preparation for fourth Covid jabs needed to 'stay ahead of curve'​

A report by the non-profit Tony Blair Institute has also called for the Government to establish a task force which would try to convince the unvaccinated to come forward for the jab.​

A command and control team set up to manage future Covid outbreaks could help the UK stay “ahead of the curve”, Tony Blair has said.

The former prime minister also recommended that a vaccine infrastructure which could be mobilised within 48 hours is put in place, in anticipation that a fourth round of Covid jabs is needed in the near future.

A report by the non-profit Tony Blair Institute has also called for the Government to establish a task force which would try to convince the unvaccinated to come forward for the jab.

New Labour-era national leader Mr Blair said: “The lesson of Omicron emphasises yet again that Covid-19 surprises us usually on the downside.

“This report is about how we stay ahead of the curve, rather than constantly playing catch-up.

“To achieve this, we need to take decisions fast, take them in a co-ordinated manner, and execute effectively and at speed. Be prepared at all times.

“So, here, we set out how we make this happen, so that we don’t have unnecessary restrictions on our lives, but can cope with new variants and the possibility of a fourth or more vaccine dose, so business can plan ahead, so that we minimise uncertainty and maximise the predictability of daily life.

“We understand how difficult this is for Government. Right now, all the options are tough. But with the right forward thinking and preparation we can make the options easier to administer and for the public to understand and accept.”

The report emphasises the need for a strong “infrastructure” for future vaccine rollouts, noting that the speed at which the booster rollout has taken place is slower than the original two jabs because of a smaller national effort.

It calls for a “command and control” structure that could be rolled out in future, providing a “coherent public-health emergency operations centre” when required, as well as a “well-established system of Covid passes”.

It also calls on the Government to campaign to convince unvaccinated people to get jabbed, particularly the over-50s who are at more risk of hospital admission from Covid-19.

The report recommends the Covid vaccine is rolled out to five to 11-year-olds in order to lessen the impact of Covid on their education, and says that saliva-based PCR testing could be used in future, as it is less invasive than current test kits.

Mr Blair’s non-profit also recommends greater international co-operation on sharing vaccines with poorer nations in the global south.



oh noes we ded

WHO warns against concluding Omicron is milder variant​


The World Health Organization's chief scientist said on Monday it was too early to conclude the Omicron variant was milder than other coronavirus strains, saying it could still make enough people sick to "overburden" healthcare systems.

"...It is probably unwise to sit back and think this is a mild variant, it's not going to cause severe disease, because I think with the numbers going up all health systems are going to be under strain," Soumya Swaminathan told Geneva-based journalists.

She added that this perception appeared to be based on initial data out of parts of South Africa which might give a misleading impression due to high levels of existing immunity among the population.


 
Why? Omicron is way too mild to produce a significant uptick in hospital demand. What did Dennark have again earlier in this thread; 106k cases, 30 hospitalisations? Thats one for every what? Three and a half thousandish cases? And that assumes the Omicron wasnt just incidental and theyre actually not in there for something else. Whoopdi shit.

Any hospital "overrun" in the near-future failed to anticipate demand pretty much regardless of muh variant.
Keep in mind a lot of healthcare professionals were fired for not getting the jab. There’s a huge gap in healthcare they’ve been trying to fill with ridiculous signing bonuses and money for referrals.
 
Consider this:

You are completely correct that Omicron is much milder; however as with any pathogen there will always be a portion of the population more susceptible to it than others. We can therefore expect to see over the next 30 days probably half a million to 1.5 million daily cases of Covid.

As a result, even though Omicron is not going to put as many in hospital by percentage, the sheer number of infections will mean only a fraction need to show more severe symptoms to bind our hospitals up.
Where, pray-tell, where will the Omicron variant be finding the "sheer number" of hosts to infect in a world that is two years into a pandemic of a virus we have been told this entire time is highly infectious. Is your argument that there remains a massive number of susceptible hosts that have no antibodies?
 
Governments, scientists and experts have all said that two jabs does nothing to protect from omicron, and that having a booster is the best defense to prevent serious illness and death, which all data points shows is true.

They admit the boosters are the best protection you can have and you should have your family vaccinated to protect them. At this stage in the game then, what difference does it make if X% of the population are vaccinated or not?

It has never really mattered, but with officials changing their tune and admitting that 2 jabs are useless, how can they blame the unvaxxed?
Yes, it's no longer 'bout the Corona, it's about a two year+ powertrip by government and its influencers.

Great thread on the lockdown-fear-complex, where Twitter grifters work hand-in-hand with governments to erode liberties. I am still surprised that Neil Ferguson (creator of the original doomsday predictions used to justify lockdowns) is still not a persona non grata in any part of London.

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Yesterday I heard on the radio talk about a new study that apparently showed that 40% of Coofers suffer from "LongCOVID". Even those who had a completely asymptomatic "infection".
Well, given that "LongCOVID" symptoms are pretty much EVERYTHING from shortness of breath over fatigue to dizziness and arrythmia and depression, it's pretty fuckin' easy to find those symptoms in a lot of people.
Of course, the study isn't published yet, but our dear and trustworthy media was given the results to spread some panic before Christmas.
Long COVID (formerly known as long Lyme disease formerly known as fibromyalgia formerly known as chronic fatigue syndrome formerly known as being a stupid woman)
 
The idea of natural immunity being worse than getting injected is insane. After injecting someone with mRNA or an attenuated disease you trust their natural immune system to mount a defense. It's literally the same mechanism.

An injection gives you "natural immunity" against an artificial construct that you trust to resemble the actual threat close enough for it to matter.

There is no mathematical, physical or biological way that this artificial construct is a better representation of the original threat than the original threat itself.

(Just something I realized today—I am not a doctor.)
 
Long COVID (formerly known as long Lyme disease formerly known as fibromyalgia formerly known as chronic fatigue syndrome formerly known as being a stupid woman)
It comes as no surprise that women do suffer more from "LongCOVID" than men in that study.
Consider this:

You are completely correct that Omicron is much milder; however as with any pathogen there will always be a portion of the population more susceptible to it than others. We can therefore expect to see over the next 30 days probably half a million to 1.5 million daily cases of Covid.

As a result, even though Omicron is not going to put as many in hospital by percentage, the sheer number of infections will mean only a fraction need to show more severe symptoms to bind our hospitals up.
Can we, though? Undampened exponential growth doesn't really happen for long real life, it's more often closer to a Gompertz function.
1.5 million daily new cases is higher than the worldwide peak so far, btw.
 
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How funny that if this proportionality argument is going to work, South Africa should already be showing evidence of overwhelmed hospitals and bodies in the streets. After all, it did come from Africa, right? It didn't come from here or the UK first, did it? So we shouldn't have to think we'd be the first ones showing evidence of these mounting casualty numbers you expect.

One thing Menotaur might not realize about omicron cases is that they're not just less likely to put you in the hospital. The hospital stays for patients admitted with omicron cases are also of significantly shorter duration. I've been hearing from healthcare professional friends that even people who come in needing supplemental oxygen are able to be released in 48-72 hours, rather than continuing to deteriorate until they need vents or additional support for weeks. One of the significantly bad things about the coof compared to usual colds and flu is that its effects tended to keep hospitalized patients occupying beds for a really long time.

So if you're wondering how African countries aren't filling their hospitals, it's because these two factors combine to create a situation where the number of days of hospitalization needed per covid case has dropped not just a little bit, but well beyond an order of magnitude.
 
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